Paarthunax doesn't know the Thu'um, and doesn't meet you until later on. The Greybeards are trying to steer you towards the Way of the Voice, which Dragonrend is in conflict with, because you'll take on the hatred behind that shout. To me, the Greybeards telling me about Dragonrend would be akin to a Hindu priest telling me I should convert to Hinduism but eat exclusively at McDonald's. It's something that flies in opposition of the belief system they'd like you to follow, so why would they tell you about it?

because it was the only weapon that was able to harm alduin and also as dova im excempt from the rules and teachings. Its the ONLY thing that was able to harm alduin and they even knew there was such a voice but didnt want me to really know about it hence preventing me from saving the world. so u got one side that wants a display of loyalty sine thier last masters sold them out to the thalmor or u goy one side thats would rather hinder u and only really help u when u confront them about it instead of actaully helping u out and give u info that the blades gave freely . They just acted to shady to me.

I agree with everything you're saying, but I would add that the Greybeards don't want or expect you to follow The Way of the Voice. Even though they consider it important to them, they do not treat their belief system as something that needs to be adopted by everyone. They are not trying to convert anyone to their way of doing things, and there is dialogue with Arngeir where you can choose to follow the Way of the Voice, but if you choose this option he steers you away from it saying something like it's not your destiny.
I totally agree that Paarthurnax or The Greybeards not telling the Dovahkiin about Dragonrend before The Blades do is not them knowingly withholding information to serve their own ends.

Maybe they don't need to send people along with you, but they can't kill Dragons on their own. They have no way of absorbing the Dragon's Soul without you, so whatever Dragons they slay can be revived by Alduin.

Well seeing how they knew about te shout and not telling u until u confront them to me seems like their more worried about their leader who is a dragons safety than saving the world from alduin. Hell when u confront them they still dont wanna tell ya until they realize they cant d back the knowledge since u already know. So why didnt they tell the dragonborn af the beginning since they knew alsuin was back about the shout and qhy did they still noy wanna tell ya even when u knew their was a shout that could harm him? Seems to me they had different goals from me and coulda doomed mankind to save their dragon. And yea the dragonborn and all dovahs are exempt from the teachings and not bound to the rules

I'll say they don't want a dragonborn wreaking havoc all over the place. All that I know is that they know sooner or later you'll absorb the hatred in Dragonrend, rendering you to... IDK, be a "bad guy"? It's anyone's guess. IMO they see Dragonrend as "the last thing you should try" because "it's evil" like, Sauron's ring evil: it's awesome but will drive you mad. Perhaps they thought there might be a way to kill Alduin without dragonrend, just like the way you kill countless dragons before Alduin

At least that's the way I see it

I hope you guys have realised that Paarthurnax used you he wanted Alduin out of the way and got you to do his dirty work. I accepted his help but saw it as a foe of my foe kind of deal. Dragons are not fluffy bunnies that only think good thoughts.They are powerful savage and see themselves as the rightful rulers of the world Alduin is gone but the threat is not.

Reading all of this makes me wanna sharpen my sword and butcher the old dude .

I do agree with us being used by paar, but also the greybeards knew that alduin could only be hurt by a certain shout that was the bane of all dragons. That is why alduin is so powerful that there is literally nothing else that can harm him,hell alduin is so scared of the shout that he stops everything once he senses u learning it and atacks u sooner than he planned to.

That "hatred" that allowed to create Dragonrend came from ppl that suffered under Alduin's reign. It's more like accepting or even understanding the pain of those ppl rather then using it to fuel Your inner "dark side". The Nords used that to empower the Thu'um to such extent that even the Dragons would feel human mortality, though they wouldn't understand it. The Greybeards are like monks and they despise anything that is potentialy dangeorus to anyone. That's why they probably didn't wanna help the Dragonborn in the 1st place. That and maybe their feared that the day will come when he decides to slay their Master.

When I come to think about it it all makes sense now.
It's the never ending debate about an ability to resolve any conflict using pacifistic aproach or a direct confrontation. Problem appears when You wanna take the middle stance and the game doesn't allow it.

I think this is my problem too. It's impossible for me to see them as real Blades. Real Blades like Jauffre and Baurus would never have given the Dragonborn an ultimatum like this. They are sworn to protect the Dovahkiin, and Delphine quite literally tells us to kill Paarthurnax or get lost. Jauffre would have found a different way.

Well if I'm the lynchpin of their success as it were, then they're a bunch of damn fools for spouting out "You're either with us or against us," because without me, their entire system falls apart and they're once again without any semblance of a purpose. That's one of the main reasons I don't side with them. They offer me very little but utterly depend on me.




The Greybeards seem surprised when you ask them about Dragonrend. In all likelihood they probably thought any record of it had been wiped out, and they're mostly right. Besides some text that mentions it's name, there's no record of the Shout at Sky Haven Temple and the Greybeards knowledge of it comes from Paarthurnax, who was around at the time of its creation but is incapable of knowing it.

And for the people saying that Paarthurnax was using the Dragonborn to get rid of Alduin, so were the Blades.