No Patch Yet but DLC avail 12/21 : Fallout: New Vegas

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:04 am

well from some 1 who has lost 26 toon's due to the DLC error all in diff places and diff times and some scum comes on and say's i have no problem's well why don't u turn your copie side way's and fist it up your &ss

that was actually quite brilliant...

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:17 am

The fact of the matter is, at the end of the day the game was knowingly released in an unfinished state. The patch just after release proves this as it would have apparently taken weeks for certification.

I've yet to see any sort of apology or acceptance of wrongdoing by Obsidian/Bethesda, and don't expect to.

I'm currently waiting on a game fixing patch that was supposedly being sent for certification on the 5th November, but learned on the 19th November that they were still working on the final touches.

The announcement of the 800 MSP DLC while we wait for the release of said game fixing patch is a further insult to those who have paid good money for a faulty product. The use of the phrase "as the victim of a raw deal" is the cherry on the insult sundae.

This is not how you treat valued customers. Not at all.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:11 am

please people, pass this dlc, dont let them feel, the way they acted was right. we've payed, and now they should pay.

if this "miracle patch" really comes out before, you can show mercy if you want.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:43 pm

If we don't get compensated at all then we should all unite and agree to not buy the DLC. Besides, it's probably going to be rigged with bugs and glitches. What's the purpose?

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:33 pm

I think this DLC should be free for us.. we shoudlnt be treated like game testers.. and this patch is taking forever. they knew how broken it was prior to selling it and should have been hard at work on patches before the release... now i know why there wasnt too much footage prior to release about the game.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:39 pm

I actually don't believe any of the people that say they have played the game 40+ hours and have had no problems. It's impossible to not to encounter a single quest glitch after 40+ hours. Also why would someone who isn't having any issues trolling around the Hardware/Software issues forum? No Life?

I think the rest of us are looking for answers, I know that I'm checking everyday so that I can get the heads up of when the next patch comes out, as are probably 99.9% of us.

I have well over 40 hrs and haven't encountered any game-breaking glitches or bugged quests. I have ran into various creatures half way in terrain and some spurts of freezing, but nothing game breaking. In previous playthrough I had over 70 hours and same. I have game installed on hdd and no patches and no preorder dlc...so one of those are definitely the issue

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:19 pm

I have enjoyed Bethesda's games...Elder Scrolls III and IV with all the expansions/DLCs. I enjoyed Fallout 3 and the DLC's and the whole Pitt DLC thing wasn't the big a deal to me.
However, I had noted a general decline in quality from game to game...or maybe a slopiness in each subsequent game. I also noted that certain bugs (or features?!?) never got fixed like the loading screen game freeze that is ever present in Morrowind, Oblivion, FO3...

Thus, I decided not to buy this game when it "hit the shelves".
I have no intention to ever buy this game given all the issues you guys and gals have reported.
I know Obsid. developed the game but they did it on Bethesda's broken tools.

There comes a time when you have to stop whipping that old horse and just go dig that 6 foot hole and bury the old mare...the old mare being Bethesda.

It's been a good ride and some great games where 100's of hours of my life was spent slaying Daedra and VATS headshots at Muties...its been fun.

But it's time to move on you've lost the fight, passion, edge...Cheers.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:14 pm

I have enjoyed Bethesda's games...Elder Scrolls III and IV with all the expansions/DLCs. I enjoyed Fallout 3 and the DLC's and the whole Pitt DLC thing wasn't the big a deal to me.
However, I had noted a general decline in quality from game to game...or maybe a slopiness in each subsequent game. I also noted that certain bugs (or features?!?) never got fixed like the loading screen game freeze that is ever present in Morrowind, Oblivion, FO3...

Thus, I decided not to buy this game when it "hit the shelves".
I have no intention to ever buy this game given all the issues you guys and gals have reported.
I know Obsid. developed the game but they did it on Bethesda's broken tools.

There comes a time when you have to stop whipping that old horse and just go dig that 6 foot hole and bury the old mare...the old mare being Bethesda.

It's been a good ride and some great games where 100's of hours of my life was spent slaying Daedra and VATS headshots at Muties...its been fun.

But it's time to move on you've lost the fight, passion, edge...Cheers.

Morrowind and daggerfall were a lot more sloppy than latest games. Morrowind had and still has many quest breaking and game breaking glitches that weren't fixed. I remember a disappearing female orc that completely broke main quest line. She was 2nd quest in.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:21 am

I stated in another thread how I"m betting the DLC will actually fix a lot of bugs. The most likely explanation for a bug called the DLC bug is that they simply had already started building the DLC before game release and then removed the DLC. Probably why they haven't released a patch as quickly as people wanted is because the patch can't fix certain things that simply replacing the DLC will. Just my theory now.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:59 am

Meh, I'll be getting this DLC on day 1. I love New Vegas much more than Fallout 3. I haven't had a single game breaking glitch or corrupted saves. Guess I've just been lucky.
Still looking forward to the patch, for the new features, that should be coming out soon.
Fallout: New Vegas, best game of 2010 in my book!

if what you say is true, then why are you even here? i get the impression you are just looking to stir up some [censored], which is really, really weak.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:47 am

I hear you but what's done is done you know? I just don't understand all the [censored]ing and moaning about things no one can change. There's no going back in time to not release the game for another 2 months, hindsight is always 20/20, and it's possible that of their testers, less than 1% experienced the DLC glitch (which is fixed on the PC with the incremental patch so now those users are fine), so they said "well we'll figure that DLC thing out later, less than 1% is acceptable" and then it got a little worse once it was out in the wild (I've not had the DLC error and I don't know anyone personally who's had it either, and even if there's 1000 people complaining on these boards, that's still not even close to 1% of the reported 4 million sold). The gaming community puts up with it because people in general are getting dumber by the generation, and instead of actually not pre-ordering games anymore like they keep threatening, everyone continues to do so, which just motivates developers to get the game out sooner before those people get impatient and cancel their pre-order. And the very next Elder Scrolls or Fallout, people will still line up at the midnight release, and have either completely forgotten about this, or have rationalized in their mind that "Oh, they wouldn't do this again to us, would they!?".

if you really think that only 1% of the people who bought this disaster of a game are experiencing serious problems, then you must be blind and deaf on top of a lot of other things. and lets just say you are right, that's 40,000 people who got shafted with a broken game. and i'd be willing to bet that the % is a hell of a lot higher than 1%.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:43 am

Shhh... You are going give them ideas to charge points for patch too I seen some worse bugged games in past and I do believe PC has less issues... perhaps was written for PC first and then loosely transfered to Xbox and maybe fully tested on PC only. Maybe tested Xbox stability but not
the quest lines, due to the game obviously being copy of FO3 and they thought they dont need check it further.. something like that? Still.. I finished it with all bugs, it was fun... beside stupid cowboy hat and quest to save ncr president auto-finishing (he landed and took off right away). I will buy DLC if patch comes first and fixes all major problems, but yes I am frustrated too quite a bit.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:08 am

40 hours of game play without hitting the strip, them bam half of that gone due to corrupted data bug...i cannot bear to pick up the game again and try to recover all that progress..

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:38 pm

I googled the problem I was having loading my saves and was reassured when I saw how many other people are also having the same issue. However I am shocked to see that given the number of people suffering a severe software issue, the lack of response on behalf of the people who supply it. I guess once they have your cash, the motivation to address any such issues is somewhat impaired. First Fallout game I played and quickly becoming the last. :sad:

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:13 am

I pre-ordered FNV, and I still haven't dared to play it yet because of these possible (and probable it seems) bugs. But even if I had been playing it, bug-free or not, I certainly wouldn't buy the DLC. It's ridiculous that they should have been dedicating any of their time and resources to anything other than fixing the game itself first.

I'm going to keep my current copy of FNV, but I'll only start playing it once the major patch has been released AND after people have been playing it for a couple of weeks, confirming that the patch has fixed problems and not caused new ones (after all, there's no way I'm trusting the game-testers to properly test the patch).

And as for the DLC, I'll just wait until next year, and then trade in my probably-buggy FNV for the inevitable GOTY version with all the DLC on it, which will no doubt be smoother, and patched.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:52 am

if you really think that only 1% of the people who bought this disaster of a game are experiencing serious problems, then you must be blind and deaf on top of a lot of other things. and lets just say you are right, that's 40,000 people who got shafted with a broken game. and i know for a fact the % is a hell of a lot higher than 1%.

Yeah. You know that for a FACT do you? So you know 40,000 people personally who have reported this issue to you? You've counted 40,000 people on this forum or anywhere else, and identified each one so as to ensure they aren't the same people with multiple accounts/accounts on different forums?

You know absolutely NOTHING for a fact.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:33 am

[quote name='towerxvi' date='17 November 2010 - 11:23 PM' timestamp='1290036209' post='16693458']
It's kind of funny that the DLC is called " Dead Money" just like the money I spent buying Fallout NV.

i couldn't put it better myself..

i truly loved this game but now it is dead to me

when a game is this glitchy and there is no fix yet its never a good sign i doubt i will be going back to this one

goodluck all....

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:15 am

sure

but every game is buggy but meh when i find a bug ill post it, and i hope for them to fix it but, they dont all get on my mind i get on with the game, we shoudnt be compansated or anything

Dont like the Game dont play it, think the game is to buggy dont play it until more patches come out.

Obviously you don't know the extent of the glitches and bugs in this game. They are GAMEBREAKERS. Your console freezes, your save corrupts, and you lose every hour you have put into the game. Mine has developed a new lovely glitch of not letting me start a new game. It just freezes after Benny shoots you in the desert. So if you think no one should be mad or compensated for being sold a broken USELESS product your a fool. If you have had a perfect expirience with game, good for you. Post in a section of the forum not titled "ISSUES"!!!!! I love the Fallout series but this is such a giant disappointment words can't even describe. Then to hear someone who has not had the issues tell me to deal with it is infuriating!! This company should fix an issue before possibly creating more with this DLC.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:18 am

Guys, this feels weird. I was on IGN this morning reading up about this new patch that Bethesda/Obsidian is releasing for Fallout: New Vegas. When I went in to the bathroom to fix my hair, there was a gigantic red mushroom tattoo on my forehead...

Oh wait, that's just Bethesda/Obsidian F***ing me over and having a laugh about it. I'm in agreeance with everyone about boycotting the DLC and anyone and everyone that is royally pi**ed off with Bethesda/Obsidian. The announcement that they would be releasing a DLC before a patch for the game (which I've turned into a fantastic $90 drink coaster by the way...it's really superb quality) was the ultimate insult. How any one of them could sit there and say it's perfectly ok to create a DLC for money when we haven't even fixed the initial problems with the game shows they have an utter and absolute lack of respect for their customers. I'm livid. I wanted, so badly, to play another Elder Scrolls game but because of this debacle I never will. It doesn't matter if Bethesda released it down the road, they've lost a customer for life. I don't pay my hard earned money to get screwed over.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:59 am

Guys, this feels weird. I was on IGN this morning reading up about this new patch that Bethesda/Obsidian is releasing for Fallout: New Vegas. When I went in to the bathroom to fix my hair, there was a gigantic red mushroom tattoo on my forehead...

Oh wait, that's just Bethesda/Obsidian F***ing me over and having a laugh about it. I'm in agreeance with everyone about boycotting the DLC and anyone and everyone that is royally pi**ed off with Bethesda/Obsidian. The announcement that they would be releasing a DLC before a patch for the game (which I've turned into a fantastic $90 drink coaster by the way...it's really superb quality) was the ultimate insult. How any one of them could sit there and say it's perfectly ok to create a DLC for money when we haven't even fixed the initial problems with the game shows they have an utter and absolute lack of respect for their customers. I'm livid. I wanted, so badly, to play another Elder Scrolls game but because of this debacle I never will. It doesn't matter if Bethesda released it down the road, they've lost a customer for life. I don't pay my hard earned money to get screwed over.

I agree with everything you're saying. I just don't get it. At all. You're working on DLC but you haven't fixed the game yet??? What in the heck are you thinking?????? I agree. Let's boycott the fricken DLC. Nobody buy it. If you buy it you're wasting your money. I'm sorry. They havent even fixed any of the major issues in the game. It's been out for how long now??? Longer than a month? And you've released only one patch that did.............. ummmmmmmmmmm nothing? I am NOT buying the DLC. Anyone that does is a moron. My opinion, sticking to it.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:37 pm

I agree with everything you're saying. I just don't get it. At all. You're working on DLC but you haven't fixed the game yet??? What in the heck are you thinking?????? I agree. Let's boycott the fricken DLC. Nobody buy it. If you buy it you're wasting your money. I'm sorry. They havent even fixed any of the major issues in the game. It's been out for how long now??? Longer than a month? And you've released only one patch that did.............. ummmmmmmmmmm nothing? I am NOT buying the DLC. Anyone that does is a moron. My opinion, sticking to it.

Well then I'm a moron derp derp. My copy hasn't had any of the major problems some other users are having (knock on wood) I have enjoyed the game and am looking forward to continuing the experiance.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:32 pm

Just to throw this on the pile. After doing some jabbing around and going back to old saves, I can track the cause of my corrupt saves to the point where I blow up the BoS bunker using the self destruct machine. Until that point I can load games just fine.

Edit: Scratch that. I can load until I exit the bunker, which is at least 3 times more lame.

RAWR! Edit: Seems to be if I don't enter L2 and kill the good people in there, then I can save/load as normal. I also changed my active quest to be something other than ED-E My Love

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:01 am

Well then I'm a moron derp derp. My copy hasn't had any of the major problems some other users are having (knock on wood) I have enjoyed the game and am looking forward to continuing the experiance.

You don't think the DLC will have bugs at all? Wow.....

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:25 am

'Well then I'm a moron derp derp. My copy hasn't had any of the major problems some other users are having (knock on wood) I have enjoyed the game and am looking forward to continuing the experiance.

You don't think the DLC will have bugs at all? Wow.....

Where did he say that?

Those who haven't run into the DLC issue haven't said there are NO bugs. There were bugs in FO3, there's bugs in Grand Theft Auto 4, there's bugs in pretty much every sandbox game to varying degrees. For those of us who haven't had corrupted saves (I don't know how many times I need to say this but it's not 100% of people experiencing it, nor is it 99% or some other ridiculous number you guys seem to believe because the world revolves around you and therefore if it happened to you it happened to everyone), I'm sure the DLC will be fine and we'll enjoy playing it, even if it's got a few glitches. Everyone having issues, well you'll sadly have to wait for the patch.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:40 am

Where did he say that?

Those who haven't run into the DLC issue haven't said there are NO bugs. There were bugs in FO3, there's bugs in Grand Theft Auto 4, there's bugs in pretty much every sandbox game to varying degrees. For those of us who haven't had corrupted saves (I don't know how many times I need to say this but it's not 100% of people experiencing it, nor is it 99% or some other ridiculous number you guys seem to believe because the world revolves around you and therefore if it happened to you it happened to everyone), I'm sure the DLC will be fine and we'll enjoy playing it, even if it's got a few glitches. Everyone having issues, well you'll sadly have to wait for the patch.

I'm glad that video game glitches are reserved solely for sandbox games. Which leads me to my next point that the DLC is for a sandbox game and will therefore obviously have bugs and thus moots your entire argument. Furthermore save your sententious insults, nothing quite like kicking someone while they're down eh? Makes you feel pretty good, I know. But I guess I'll just have to wait for the patch before I can join in!