Probably lawsuits, like those Westboro people.

PETA= :facepalm: .

Remember sea kittens :lmao: Waitaminit... kittens. So fish aren't actually fish but mammals? :blink:



Cat tastes like duck? Now that i wouldn't have expected :blink: However i think i'll rather keep cats as pets rather than food :hehe:

So would it be okay for me to go out and kill a human, as long as it's done quickly and humanely as possible?



The difference here is that many vegetarians (including myself) don't take an ego-centric view by basing the value of animals, plants etc. on how much they contribute to the human race. Believe it or not, the world doesn't revolve around us...it's a bit easier on our egos to think that we're "above" animals but when it comes down to it, we're animals just as much as cats, dogs, gorillas, etc.

It's much more of a moral issue for vegetarians...whether we as humans have the right to take the life of other creatures that don't pose an imminent threat to us and aren't absolutely necessary for our survival (particularly raising animals for the sole purpose of killing them).

And I'd like to add that I ultimately choose not to eat meat not just because I'm an animal-lover, but because I personally wouldn't be willing to kill the animals myself. I don't raise arguments against people who choose to eat meat if they are actually willing to do the dirty work themselves...I wouldn't do it myself, but it's a personal choice and to each his/her own. What annoys me are people who eat meat & poke fun at vegetarians, but aren't actually willing to kill animals themselves (out of sight, out of mind).

So to you a cow or a chicken has just as much rights as you do?


PETA is never going to get people to stop eating meat, it isn't going to happen. People that feel animals have equal to or greater value then human life are the ones to watch out for :whistling:


I understand if people don't want to eat meat or wear fur but keep it to yourself and leave me alone. Don't call me a murder and throw paint at me or stupid crap like that.

A wise soldier once said, "Beep boop, I am a robot. I feed on American jobs, beep boop."
Well it's like that, but next thing you know the chickens and cows will steal the robots' jobs, who stole our jobs D:

For the price of a cheap rifle, a box of bullets,, and a good knife, I could shoot a deer and butcher it up, preserve the meat and feed myself for a good month or two minimum, depending on the size of the deer.

Now thats about $240 USD ($200 for a cheap 5.56mm rifle at your local pawnshop, where I buy from you can pick up 100 rounds of 5.56mm ammo for $25, and a hunting knife would be around $15 for a basic one), for a good month or two of eating venison

Then the rifle, and the knife are one time payments, with occasional payments to clean the gun or sharpen the knife, and it would take you a couple months of hunting only when you need food to use 100 rounds.

So around $250 for the first month and then minimal payments the subsequent months, you could have readily available food (depending on where you live) with just some work to get it.

As opposed to a vegetarian lifestyle, where you probably spend $250 every month, not to mention researching what you need to eat to get a balanced diet, (you pretty much need meat for a reliable source of some vital nutrients)

And vegans, don't drink milk, forcing them to find necessary calcium from other sources, but cows need you to milk them anyway, so why waste it?
And about not wearing wool, the same, sheep need to be sheared, why waste your perfectly good textiles?

From an economic and survival standpoint, vegetarian-ism and vegan-ism are just impractical

I wonder why PETA hasn't gotten mad at the lovely skinning sceans in Red Dead Redemption?

I wonder how long before that games available on the 3DS?

To your first point: yes.

To your second point: I'm not a supporter of PETA or any organization that tries to push an agenda on others....and if you read the rest of my post, I don't go around judging people or flaming them for choosing to eat other animals.

Actually, there aren't any vital nutrients from meat that can't be gotten from vegetation. And yes, vegetarianism is typically more expensive, but a valid comparison for your example would be if I chose to grow all of my food in the garden instead of shopping at the store, which would be much more economical, potentially even cheaper than having to hunt for your food. But that point is moot anyway, as vegetarians don't choose to be such based on practicality.

So if I go and kill and eat a chicken or shoot a deer to feed my family, I should be arrested for murder? Have trials like we did with the Nazis for all the meat an poultry farmers in the world? We should also include the worlds fishermen as well then I guess.

That's good that you don't flame or judge people that do eat meat.

All of the things I'd like to say about PETA and this asinine crusade are censored here.

such hypocracy, if they truely believed eating living things is wrong then they'd be dead. because plants are alive as well, so even being a vegetarian is not death free.

Retardation incarnate.

I view PETA as kind of a shock jock -- they do outrageous things to 'raise awareness' of animal mistreatment. The more outrageous their claims - Mario included - the more media interest in their cause.

Which is a good cause -- factory farms, concentrated feed operations, puppy mills, etc. are unnecessarily cruel, and a blight on civilized society. If you read the articles on why they oppose things like wool (they actually oppose the way the sheep are sheared -- not raising sheep for wool) they make sense, but when they're presented so dryly the public has no interest in their cause. They'd rather eat burgers that cost less than a $1. Hence topless women and Mario-skinning tanookies.

Yet many of you willingly make yourself useful idiots of the above factory farm industries by railing against PETA and how stupid they are, and how you'll always eat meat, and how every vegetarian must think that snails have the same rights as humans. PETA feels driven to pull these stunts b/c they want to prevent public apathy -- the same apathy so many of you have demonstrated. I think their tactis are silly, but it's striking to me that more people are content to rail against how terrible PETA is than rail against the megafarms that are causing actual cruelty, dismemberment, and environmental harm, daily.

So yeah -- rah, rah, PETA IZ ZO STUPID I EATZ CEHZBURGERS!!!

. . .Sad really.

This rationale in the bold never made any sense, especially since plants are living just as animals, and ironically, are raised to be eaten just like animals that are used for food. The difference is, plants aren't as cute and don't spill guts like an animal does. The crazy bias against a meat diet because animals are killed or the way they're killed or raised as food is extremely hypocritical.

Animals would do worse than humans if they were treated equally, just about every single animal would be in jail or killed for not respecting the rights of other animals, including humans, they'd be jailed for indecency for [censored] and [censored]ting all over the [censored] [censored] place and not respecting laws. Animals are animals because they're animals. There's a reason they're not treated equally, it's because they don't act equally.

My sister in law is a vegan.. sweet girl

I call her my little flora-nazi

If I'm to eat meat, it has to be raised and slaughtered, not hunted.

I'm eating around 1.2lbs of meat daily right now, I AM CRAVING MEAT. I should set up my dining table in front of their HQ.

I just had a big ol' turkey sandwich! YEAAAAAAAAAH

I'm about to go downstairs and eat half a kilo of pork.

I just had a couple of egg & biscuit sandwiches

I don't think anyone here will argue for animal cruelty, what everyone hates is how PETA goes about making their points. Throwing red paint around, idiotic flash games, ridiculous hyperbole when they actually try and make an argument (Sea kittens. Yeah.) Nobody takes them seriously because with they way they act, they don't deserve to be taken seriously.

In fact, like all extremists, they're actually hurting their own cause with the way they act.

I agree, actually. Most of their tactics make me roll my eyes. It's just worth keeping in mind that their underlying cause is valid and much of the anger directed at them could be put to better use if redirected elsewhere. A lot of people whine that they advance their cause in an unproductive way, but very few people do anything to help that cause themselves, or suggest a reasonable alternative :thumbsup:

Sadly, if they didn't resort to these headline-grabbing gimmicks, I don't think these issues would be in public's collective conscious. They'd be forgotten.