About four months ago

Well... I suppose that was inevitable.

While I like the idea of having another voice for female dragons (similar to Saphira from the movie), I will say that the movie still svcks overall.


Perhaps, but that is according to what the Dremora said to the College of Whispers. Keep in mind that Dremora are basically demons, who live to deceive. Not to mention that the College of Whispers is more concerned with the politics of magic rather than its practice of magic, so when it comes to facts, this source on dragons is probably as reliable as FOX News is on politics.

Technically, that would only be true if dragons were mammals.
For pretty much all other animals, the females are large and in charge (and typically uglier too).

Here's what TES II: Daggerfall manual said about them.
Dragons
The fairly common Dragonling is a worthy opponent for any adventurer. It is capable of casting a number of powerful spells and healing itself in combat. Those who speak their language tell us that beneath a veneer of maddening riddles and non sequiturs are minds of great wisdom. Despite all their merits, dragonlings are less grand than their lineage would suggest. Explorers, sages, and archivists have argued for centuries over whether the great dragons of legend still live, if in fact they ever existed. The people of the Alik'r Desert insist that their vast plain of sand is home to a multitude of the Great Wyrms. Granting the nomads their propensity for tall tales, if there were a forsaken land where the great Dragons still fly undisturbed, it would indeed be the Alik'r Desert.


Then why are there normal Dragons, Elder Dragons, and Ancient Dragons? Simple, some are older than the others. Which means that new ones are being born/created.

LOL.

But to the OP... does it really matter?

Important parts underlined. Now, combine this with what Skyrim says:

Relevant to note, Daggerfall was going to have http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Skakmat, fully modeled in 3D (there's a texture file in the game that's the skin for a dragon model), but he didn't make the cut... whether it was an actual cut, or if it was planned feature that simply never got completed, is unknown. Still, given the way TES lore works, there's nothing to say he couldn't have still existed. I also like how it mentions "Under Nulfaga's orders, it created a sudden unnatural fog at the Battle of Cryngaine Field which blinded the combatants"... totally something I could see a dragon do with its shouts.

It could also refer to their standing among dragonkind. An "elder" is someone wise/powerful and revered, and an "ancient" even more so... with wisdom and reverence something we humans tend to attribute to age.

Or we can just say it's a mistake on Bethesda part. They needed names to differentiate a dragon being stronger than another, and they decided on "blood", "elder", and "ancient". Don't forget the "infinite dragons" was something added very late to the game. Even after the game was announced 11 months before release, they were unsure if they were going to have a set number of dragons, or if they'd continue to (re)spawn. It could be they were only going to have set dragon encounters and they'd all have unique names, but now since most of the respawn (and spawn randomly), they needed to remove the unique names and give them generic "Dragon" labels.

With that logic, everything in skyrim would be female, i have killed bandits that have fur armor on and they landed crotch in the air, and all that is there is a black bump. Same with all animals in skyrim....bethesda think genitals are bad apparently.

All other animals? No. There are plenty of examples of species where females are larger than the males, but "everything except mammals" is excruciatingly inaccurate.

Also, I get credit for delivering on the deduction "all females in TES have boobs regardless of species, dragons don't have boobs, hence dragons are all male" first in this thread.

Also also, just because dragons are immortal doesn't mean they would eventually fill the world if they reproduced. Obviously dragons might not die of old age but they can be killed, so "immortal" in this context has to mean simply "never dies of old age", in which case many plants, and, I believe, possibly some fish as well are immortal in the same sense, in that they can be killed but will not die until killed by something, and never by just being "old".

So dragons wouldn't fill the world even if they reproduced, so long as their death rate (from being killed by giants, adventurers, etc) achieved equilibrium with their birth rate - which I presume might likely be slow.

+1

Only temporarily. If a non-dragonborn kills a dragon, Alduin can just shout them back to life. The dragonborn is special because he can take the dragon's soul and prevent Alduin from bringing them back, but without a dragonborn a dragon's death is not permanent.

Yeah, but apparently Alduin can't just shout them back to life as fast as they can be killed, or they never would have been displaced to begin with.

Also I haven't finished the main quest and this isn't the spoiler forum, so let's be careful about potential spoilers, please.

Not agruing with that, but it makes you sound snooty.

Which, from my time on the lore forums, I know you are not.

I don't think we know enough about how Alduin normally handles bringing back dragons. Some MQ spoilers follow...

Ah, yes, apologies. Perhaps this should be moved to the lore forum, then.

Ah, not necessarily. You were courteous enough to use spoiler tags - thanks for that - and I think that should suffice to protect people from getting spoilered unintentionally.

They're asixual.

Perhaps a future DLC can have female dragons, and some who are friendly, which would have be be after the main-quest (maybe get one who wants Paarthunax or Ohahviing for a mate and because you are buddies with them, you could help get them together)

The words Al uses in the shout...

Technically, only mammals have boobs, it's actually where the name "mammal" is derived from, "mammaries". All mammals have briasts to briast feed their young. The only thing that is wierd about this in TES, is that Argonians also have briasts, which doesn't make sense since they are reptilian and are not briast fed from birth.

Which makes me wonder. Since the Dragonborn is a humanoid with the soul of a dragon, can that same shout that Alduin uses bring a Dragonborn back to life?

I think the Dragonborn's soul is special, as it's a gift from Shor/Akatosh, so he gets first dibs over Alduin. Though even if Alduin does get it, he probably wouldn't want to revive the Dragonborn. Revival doesn't grant Alduin any special control, so the Dragonborn would be just as eager to kill dragons afterward as he was before.

but dragons are only returning because alduin is resurrecting them.

also, as for the definition of immortal, ever since Lord of the Rings I, and I think many others here, generally equated immortality with no death by natural causes, but can still be killed. Invincibility would probably be the missing part. I dunno, that's just me, and it's probably good that you did clarify your point.

Exactly. But just to quibble, other mammals do have mammaries, but only humans have boobs, so to speak. Even other bipedal primates don't have boobs like human females do. A female gorilla doesn't have mammaries anything like as large as a human female's, and yet the Khajiit females have a pair of big un's, just like human females.

But yeah, it's even worse when the Argonian females have boobs. It just defies sense.