Roleplaying is a lot more multilayered than I think you - OP - appear to understand.
There are many many different ways of roleplaying and they do not all involve a sims-like attitude or philosophy. Personally I cannot bear the sims.

Niamh - (the character I interact with) - is for me a separate individual in her own right with requirements and agendas and a story all of her own, for example.

Check my sig - it may illustrate the point.

I'm not being mature? You do know that skyrim is M rated game so I must be mature inorder to play it (A rhetorical question)?

I'm not lying to myself by saying skyrim isn't about combat although it can be confusing. The best action movies aren't non-stop action. My original point is why are people (who like to oftem call themselves as roleplayers) wanting completely pointless features (for an action game) such as marriage, more player homes and adoptable kids.

The sims is just a friggin example no need to kling on to it.


A great guy called Finn tought me something:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tglxlC8rWZQ

*cough* Its just a recommended age limit, not at all bound by law, a 3 year old could buy it in a store or play it *cough*

As many other have stated, there is a difference between roleplayers and roleplayers

To me Skyrim (Or any other TES game) is way more RP then... Sims... *Shivers*
Why?
Cause in sims you are forced to do actions, there are very limited actions in skyrim (TES) that you need to do.. If you dont do things in Sims, the computer will start doing the things for you.. Or your character breaks down in a corner for ages and feeling sorry for itself.. *Facepalm*

Congrats! You win the thread.

Now I'm sure you can show yourself to the door (as you are so wise) and go share your amazing wisdom to dark corners of the internetz.

^^ Just feelt like pointing it out, no need to be rude.

"I'm not being mature? You do know that skyrim is M rated game so I must be mature inorder to play it" As if you even said that, wow.

The sooner you realise Skyrim is supposed to be an RPG and not an action game, the sooner you will realise what everyone is talking about. Now as it seems you have no idea what an RPG is I shall briefly explain; and RPG is a game where you take on the role of somebody it is up to the player how far they wish to take the role-playing experience but just by choosing which quests to do, you are role-playing. Now I see you saying that features such a marriage are pointless, I disagree. In an RPG choice is good, so the ability to marry, because it is another option and another choice you can make in the game it is a good thing. Personally I don't really use the marriage feature but I understand it is a choice, if I don't want to do it, I don't have to, that is the beauty of TES series and it being an RPG.

In conclusion, it does not matter if these features are in the game, because you, the player, are not forced into doing these things. It is a single player game so what other people do obviously doesn't affect me, I understand there are exploits some people use to gain levels, I understand people like to grind to get the best weapons and armour etc, but as this does not affect my experience I am not questioning their style of playing and saying that their way of playing is pointless.

Of course they would be options. Only an idiot would suggest that you would install new DLC and be forced to respec or eat daily or whatever but there is a new topic on respec almost every day and even though it is always put forward as an in game option a big counter argument (I'm assuming from the hard core RP'ers) is that it would ruin their immersion. There are thousands of threads on this; might be worth checking for some.

some ones not happy about there thread not going there way

Sims: TES.

Actually, that's not a bad idea....

The Sims has scary DRM. Why would I buy a PC version of a Sims game?

We choose to do it for the same reason you should stick your hand in a food processor...we enjoy it.

On a more serious and less malicious or community minded note, there is roleplaying and roleplaying, as others have said. In many ways, it can increase the level of difficulty from the game, particularly with many of the fine mods out there adding necessary requirements such as food, drinking, sleeping etc to the game.

Playing a 'dead is dead' hardcoe game with 'realistic' necessities thrown in and getting through the game is no small achievement...if it hadn't been for players like myself and others doing just that on Fallout 3, and discussing the how's why's and pitfalls on the forum, you probably wouldn't have had a hardcoe mode in FNV or subsequent games. That mode was pretty much a direct result of that fairly limited number of hardcoe roleplayers putting themselves through literal hell (sometimes) which really has benefitted everyone (in my case I spent months playing F3 as a crippled substance abuser hobbling around with an unhealed crippled leg...that wasn't so much 'fun' as hard work).

Wasn't that the whole point of your thread, though? "Why roleplay in Skyrim when you should be playing Sims"?

If you start a topic that is obviously going to come across as antagonistic, don't be surprised if people are antagonised.

I like the Sims, but haven't played it in years. Ever since I heard of the DRM EA likes to use, why bother with it? Besides, I can murder things in a million other games now or just play the GBA version of The Sims 2(which is a fantastic game).

I find Zoo Tycoon more fun if I want a simulator. I mean, who doesn't love watching tigers eat zoo guests?!

Hysterically put. Well done

I heavily RP all of my characters. We obviously have a different definition of what RPing is. For me that does NOT include eat / sleep / drink. That stuff is just trivial crap, that has no bearing or influence on my gameplay.

For me, it's simple. If it doesn't fit the personality of my character, then don't do it.

You might state that your intentions are innocent, but when you suggest playing something stupid like the SIMS, in a die hard Skyrim forum, one has to question your intent.

I fixed that for you

And this, OP, is a perfect case in point about how different RP styles can be - and why you should perhaps have thought your post through a little more.
Mr Cinco here doesn't do the whole eat/drink/sleep thing. I do, but we both have perfectly valid (heavy) RP things going on. Equally I fail completely to understand why anyone would want the whole "hey let's settle down and have kids and be suburban Whiterun-ites" thing in a game like this. BUT some people's boats get floated like that.
The point of role-playing is that there is no right or wrong way to do it, it's purely down to whether the individual is comfortable with that.
Sometimes there are synergies between different folk's methods and some peoples' roleplay strikes a chord with others but in the end it's down to each of us who roleplay, to roleplay how we want.
If you don't understand why we do what we do, that's more your problem than ours.
(And given that you state that you roleplay, you should know that already),

I RP both in game and with pen-and-paper. TES games are an excellent medium for RPing due to the rich universe and realistic environments as well as being able to interact with that world. The Sims, however, isn't fun at all, unless you're burning/drowning them all. It's probably because it is a game where you aren't playing a denizen of a world, but instead playing god, effectively.

I play with a vast variety of characters. I don't put myself in the characters shoes and pretend that I am i in the game. Well, I do but those characters are few and far between. They are usually my Sniper characters in the FO series.

Still, I play Dead Is Dead and it wasn't until I started doing that, that I realized what it meant (to me) to roleplay. I try to make up a backstory for each of my new characters. This is sometimes very easy and sometimes it is very hard or even skipped over and just ran anyway and let them tell me who they are on the fly.

Sometimes, I will spend 2-3 hrs in the creator, just playing around with random and off-the-wall settings. I will create a character and set back and literally ask the screen...

"Who are you?"..."Where are you from?"

Sometimes it comes to me and sometimes it doesn't. When it does it snowballs and 30 minutes later I have a new character to, not play through, but to follow around and live out there story as a spiritual adviser, so to speak.

Then I do things, go places, select dialog and react to the world like THEY would do based on their personality, that was laid out in their backstory. Also, I will not go places that my character does not have reason or knowledge to go to in the first place.

I should put this in my sig, because I find myself saying this every other day....

Just because you know the Super Uber Duber Sword of Cut Your Ass is in Smelly Bottom Canyon, doesn't mean your character does.

I had a character that could really benefit from Azura's Star. He was Left for Dead using an Alternate Start mod. I knew where to go but he didn't. Hell he was robed of everything. He didn't have reason to view the in-game map.

After a little bit of wondering around, he found a dead adventurer, he looted his body and guess what? He NOW has reason to view the map. Shortly afterwards he comes across a Dark Elf on the road. The Dunmer is on the way to the Shrine of Azura. NOW he has a reason to go there.

This is why I play Skyrim and not some damn simulator. At the same time, I don't want to feel like I am playing a game. I just want to live vicariously, through watching a character tell me a story.

[slow clap]
I may actually put this in my sig.

I Role Play but I don't care about children, getting married or any of those things. You are right, they are for the SIMS.

However, Role Playing doesn't have to mean you getting married, decorate homes and have children.

Role Playing means you are putting yourself into your character. You create and build your character play your character how you would if you were in the game yourself. I don't care about getting married, having children or decorating a house. That doesn't mean I'm not Role Playing my character it's because my character in the game doesn't like those things.

Role Playing is living a life inside your game that is separate from your life outside the game.

You quoted my op but did you even read it? Could point me where I asked "why do you roleplay" because I can't see it. This thread isn't about what is roleplaying, why do you roleplay or why you should/shouldn't play sims.

The reason why I said "roleplayers" is because I couldn't find a better word but in the first sentence (which also has it's own paragraph) I specified what I ment with roleplayers.

This thread is about people who like focusing their time in skyrim to most pointless features (according to the game's goal). Why is this so hard to understand? I'm begining to wonder can people even read, is it that they just don't bother to read or are they roleplaying trolls?