I'm pretty sure you have good intentions, but I have to say that treating someones who's special like he/she had the intellect of a 3-year old constantly in need of a babysitter is not good for either party. Someone who's mentally challenged may look at things in a different way compared to the "normal" masses, but they are still human. Going "aaw, poor you!" with too much enthusiasm de-humanizes them in my eyes. And humane aspects apart, if he got away with cheating just because he's different, what would happen then?

Would microsoft make a special-scale? "Okey, your condition is this severe.. Hmm, you're in excuse group 3, you will be banned for a day for this offense rather than the usual one-month ban." The "normal" people willing to cheat and exploit systems to improve their own experience online, would they refrain from trying to fake different conditions? In the end, every cheater would supposedly be autistic.

And besides, no ones picking on him.

Wow I never knew autism made people unable to do anything wrong, and how any behavior should be excused because obviously that poor soul cant comprehend or understand thier actions.
If I had autism your post would offend me more than anything I have seen here, because really you make it sound as though autistic people dont know a thing, and dont understand what they are doing, I call BS on that.
Just because you have a mental illness dosent make you unable to understand anything and immune to the consequences of your actions.
Shame on you for blowing things out of proportion, and honestly I dont know what the name for this case was, but it reminds me of reverse racism, just with mental illnesses.

And "he cheated big deal" he lost his achivements ansd has the name "cheater" next to his GT, big deal, you swear from your post M$ have hired assassins to kill the kid.

Because you're not supposed to team up with people. I know that. You are not supposed to kill the hostages in CS (which would prevent the other team from being able to complete the main objective) but people do it anyway and it's in no way cheating. Same goes for Breach, a game I've been playing recently, you're not supposed to blow up every bridge in the map to make half of the map inaccessible (to limit the fighting zone to one area) but people do it and it's not cheating.


You're completely missing the point here, and also what you just said is extremely condescending to autistic people. :huh: I agree with everything this isnt my name said.

The point is that it doesn't matter who owns the account, or who was playing it at the time, what matters is that someone cheated on that account, and Microsoft punished that account according to the rules.

They didn't ban the kid, they didn't label him a cheater, they labeled the account. If the boy can't be hold responsible for his actions (if he is low-functioning, which we don't know yet) then his mother should be held responsible. It's as simple as that.

I think Microsoft handled it nicely, I place blame on the Mom. I have a special needs kid. I do not treat her any differently at all, I don't let her have any excuses. What I am talking about is the comments "he is a cheater", "he is no good" and some comments you would swear they asked for the death penelty. Yeah the boy made a mistake. Should he deserve his intial punishement from Microsoft? Yes, I believe he does, again he should not be treated any different and this is a life lesson lernt.

What I am talking about is the comments from the BSF memebers. Everyone desrves a second chance. So he screwed up, Why does he have to suffer for life as some poeople claim he should? If I have to, I will go back and start quoting some of the comments that are shamefull, without naming who said them. I don't think I need to do this to prove my point.

Yes the boy desrved what he should have got initally. Yes it's sad, the Mother lied to try and get something out of this incidend (she did change her story so who knows what is the truth now). But to say this kid is no good, he is a bad boy and or worse because he cheated is just not fair. Can you really say he didn't know better? This is where having the disability gives the person the benifit of the doubt. Yes he should be treated different, but do you kick an special needs kid down even more?

Basically alot of hateful things are being said at a special needs kids, and this is where I take offence to it. Not what he did was right, it was Clearly wrong, but the hatefull and negative stuff being said after the fact. Talk about bullying, and yes this is bullying because how can a special needs kid talk back and defend him or herself? One thing for use cheating and then being labled as a lowlife, we can defend ourselves, but how can an autistic or a special needs kid do it? We don't know how server or how minor his case is. So we shouldn't be saying anything negative towards him at all.

@Davor: I haven't seen anyone say "He deserves the death penalty" or anything extreme. The worst I've seen are things like "He got what he deserved." or "That's what you get for being a cheater." Nothing worse than that..

If you perhaps give the topic a second read you'll see that the majority of us are treating him just like anyone else. The BGSF crew being rather brash as we are, we tend to treat everyone like dirt equally. No discrimination.

Actually, it would make sense to kill hostages, because if hostages were killed the police fail at their objective, to save the hostages. Not everything is made to be blown up but its possible. In the FFA match they clearly tried to avoid teamwok.. In CS you loose money, in Breach you also loose access to those bridges, in Black Ops you really only gain, no loss. Its cheating

You are right, nobody has said "death penalty" but some things were a bit uncalled for I believe. Having a special needs child, I guess, I get a bit too sensitive over these things. :wink_smile:

I can admit that I saw some comment a few pages back where someone said that cheaters should be shot, but I put it down as a joke. I doubt that someone seriously thinks that it's a fitting punishment for cheating in video games. Except for that one post I can only recall replies stating that he got what was coming for him, ie a ban. Not because people seemed to have anything against his condition, but because he cheated. It's no surprise that cheaters are disliked on a gaming forum either, since they can easily ruin the experience whenever met online.

Cheating is cheating, whether you're handicapped or not.
Microsoft has no way of knowing if "Player1337" has any type of disability.
No one actually cares about Gamerscore anyways. If anything, the kid won't get mocked for being a nerd who spends all his time getting achievements on Xbox.

Player1337... Awesome Gamertag...