Rage against Hermaeus Mora : V

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:05 pm

While I enjoyed beating the snot out of Miraak with old Bloodskaal at Acrophya, I did not enjoy Hermaeus Mora pulling a Dues Ex Machina by stealing my kill. It was a hollow and pointless victory. The real enemy was the Demon of Knowledge and the only winner out of all this. We killed a corrupt Dragonborn servitor of His only to wind up as a pawn and perhaps a future thrall.

I wanted vengeance against HM for the death of the Skaal shaman. To that end, I imagined bringing Wabbajack to HM's realm and blasting his mind with Sheogorath's madness. I know the DLC doesn't allow it but how would you guys envision taking down Hermaeus Mora?

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:17 am

hermaeus mora is my lord, i am his champion i will never hurt him i am his servant forever. hermaeus mora is my LOVER. he can do what ever tentacley stuff he wants to my body

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:41 am

hermaeus mora is my lord, i am his champion i will never hurt him i am his servant forever. hermaeus mora is my LOVER. he can do what ever tentacley stuff he wants to my body

Hmmmm...scorching case of herpes. That's a start.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:52 am

hermaeus mora is my lord, i am his champion i will never hurt him i am his servant forever. hermaeus mora is my LOVER. he can do what ever tentacley stuff he wants to my body

Lol, that's a lot of tentacles.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:06 am

The Nerevarine prevailed over Hircine in Bloodmoon but it was a mere aspect of the hunter god and outside of His daedric realm. However the Dragonborn was faced with the full power of Hermaeus Mora and subject to his realm.

Little chance any hero could stand against a god in its realm true. Doesn't hurt to float the idea.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:43 am

Couldn't HM be considered the most powerful Daedric Prince? None other certainly inspire the same amount of raw fear. Jygalagg could be as strong, arguably.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:31 am

I would certainly say he's one of the most underestimated princes.

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:16 pm

I'd persuade other Daedric Princes to help me. Maybe with the help of the True Tribunal he could be defeated, even in his own realm

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:05 am

I'd venture to say one of most powerful and subtle of the Lords and Ladies of Oblivion. Mehrunes Dagon caused a lot of havoc but he's had his butt handed to him at least twice. Sheogorath post Shivering Isles is questionable. I never heard of anything in lore that suggests Hermaeus Mora was ever been tricked or defeated.

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:29 pm

I'd venture to say one of most powerful and subtle of the Lords and Ladies of Oblivion. Mehrunes Dagon caused a lot of havoc but he's had his butt handed to him at least twice. Sheogorath post Shivering Isles is questionable. I never heard of anything in lore that suggests Hermaeus Mora was ever been tricked or defeated.

I don't think it's even possible to trick the prince of knowledge. He knows almost everything, after all.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:01 am

His weakness is hoarding knowledge for the sake of hoarding--regardless of its value. The more its kept from him, the more he wants it.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:14 pm

When all the Deadric Princes "Cursed" Jygalagg to prevent him from becoming even more powerful than he already was, I'm willing to bet they came to Hermaeus Mora first, as he was the only one who knew how to do it.

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:21 pm

of all the Daedric princes I believe only Sheogorath and Molag bal would be able to take Hermaus Mora, even more so with Sheogorath, he's exceptionally powerful and utterly unpredictable, I think he'd make HM a cuttle fish more than anything if they were to face off

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:29 am

Maybe if HM got his tentacles into the Champion of Cyrodiil in an effort to drain knowledge and life out of that hero but not realizing that the CoC assumed Sheogorath's god hood. The consequence of this might be interesting.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:44 am

I would certainly say he's one of the most underestimated princes.

I think Malacath is. That just my opinion after reading the two books

His weakness is hoarding knowledge for the sake of hoarding--regardless of its value. The more its kept from him, the more he wants it.

But you cant keep it from him

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:03 pm

Give me a pair of fur armor, and an iron dagger and ill give you some calamari

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:59 am

If knowledge is power, then HM is the most powerful lord.

Brute force counts for NOTHING. Knowledge - EVERYTHING. Consider Humans... we are very fragile compared to pretty much most of all animal life on the planet yet with knowledge we are gods compared to the animals. HM could probably stand equal ground even in brute force compared to other daedric lords, but count in knowledge, magic and power aswell? HM would win even 1 versus 3 other daedric lords imo.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:39 am

I'd think that Jyggalag is the most powerful considering all of the Daedric Princes cursed him, basically admitting the fear they had for him. I'd also love to see something with him down the road, dlc maybe.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:07 am

If knowledge is power, then HM is the most powerful lord.

Brute force counts for NOTHING. Knowledge - EVERYTHING. Consider Humans... we are very fragile compared to pretty much most of all animal life on the planet yet with knowledge we are gods compared to the animals. HM could probably stand equal ground even in brute force compared to other daedric lords, but count in knowledge, magic and power aswell? HM would win even 1 versus 3 other daedric lords imo.

Then the only chance only chance to win against him would be with knowledge he doesn't have. Maybe using some Elder Scrolls?

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:10 pm

Meh. I've got the rest of the Aedra at my back and for all I know, I'm an avatar of Lorkhan himself. When I ascend to godhood in the next DLC Mora better watch his back.

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:30 pm

I'd think that Jyggalag is the most powerful considering all of the Daedric Princes cursed him, basically admitting the fear they had for him. I'd also love to see something with him down the road, dlc maybe.

This is actually very strange. He was the daedric lord of ORDER. So he probably wasnt very ambitious.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:46 am

Then the only chance only chance to win against him would be with knowledge he doesn't have. Maybe using some Elder Scrolls?

Problem is, who's to say if that knowledge would be effective against him. The problem with a Daedric Lord having limitless knowledge, is that said Daedric Lord can use that knowledge. You would have to amass an amount of knowledge equal in power or greater than the power HM gains from his entire library. I feel only a deity on Akatosh level could contend with HM. Given that Akatosh is the God of Time, he is truly omniscient in terms of knowledge.

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:43 pm

This is actually very strange. He was the daedric lord of ORDER. So he probably wasnt very ambitious.

I don't think order is something some Daedric Princes want to hear about. If the lord of Order got too strong, it would disrupt their anarchical way of living

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:23 am

This is actually very strange. He was the daedric lord of ORDER. So he probably wasnt very ambitious.

I feel that the whole "Order" thing would lead to a Nazi-ish assault on Mundus or the other Daedric Reals in an attempt make them perfect and erase what he perceives as faults, and operate everything on what he deems as efficient and orderly.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:11 am

Problem is, who's to say if that knowledge would be effective against him. The problem with a Daedric Lord having limitless knowledge, is that said Daedric Lord can use that knowledge. You would have to amass an amount of knowledge equal in power or greater than the power HM gains from his entire library. I feel only a deity on Akatosh level could contend with HM. Given that Akatosh is the God of Time, he is truly omniscient in terms of knowledge.

if HM was truly all knowing then there would be only 1 daedric prince.