RAGE just went from a definite buy to only a rent

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:23 pm

While I really like what I have seen of Rage so far, I will be disappointed if there are no on foot multiplayer modes out of the box in an id game. This death rally thing actually sounds fun, but the game still needs some on foot modes.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:36 am

I have been waiting to hear the first bit of info on RAGE's multiplayer modes and when I did I have to admit it was pretty lackluster.

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/rage/preview/rage-multiplayer-shocker-forget-typical-deathmatch-its-all-about-cars-and-cooperation/a-20110417163846618095/g-200708061214527077. But what it basically says is don't expect anything like TDM or CTF or any actual versus multiplayer on foot, like you would expect from a shooter and especially one made by those who invented the FPS genre. Instead they chose to go with vehicular combat and a 2 player co-op mode, with levels. The co-op sounds cool but I already know what that's going to to turn out like. Two World II where the levels get boring after 1 week. The vehicular combat stuff sounds a bit like this one gamemode I played in Burnout mixed with Twisted Metal. You gotta capture checkpoints and blow others up or you can just do a vehicle TDM.

Why no normal on foot human vs human versus modes? Not even the typical TDM modes? If they wanted to get creative then go the route Left 4 Dead and Dead Space 2 did and give us control of the mutants with one team humans one team mutants with different abilities or something. We already know there are going to be dozens of different mutant enemies why not capitalize on that and use it in multiplayer? Don't take out the most popular form of multiplayer though and replace it with a twisted metal vehicle combat knock off!!!

I'm sorry but 10-12 hours of open world singleplayer, even if the AI for the enemies are impressive and the story is great, does not justify a $60 purchase 'for me'. If it does for you more power to ya but I need replayability and that usually comes in the form of multiplayer.

Nobody wants to race each other in a FPS, they wanna shoot peoples heads off. This game isn't Twisted Metal and they shouldn't be focusing the multiplayer on the vehicles IMO.


I agree. My main gripe is the co-op being shoved off to the side from the main game. And only 2 player? That's just hiliarous. I thought it was going to be at least 4 players. If it's only two player co-op you can count me out for good because there's absolutely no point to that at all. Hugely disappointed. What were they even thinking lol? They have these great visuals and core designs but when it comes down to it its like they are TRYING to ruin it as much as possible! Really don't understand it at all. Also, the multiplayer pvp is ... CARS? You gotta be kidding me........ I mean you really gotta be kidding me.

10-12 hours of single player... in a sandbox structured atmosphere ? That's weak. I'm sure the co-op "LEVELS" are not even going to be sandbox. I mean it isn' a part of the main game so....... "??". Yeah, this game isn't worth 60 dollars. I'll just buy it "used" or wait for a steam sale. There's no way I would pay 50 or 60 dollars for this. Imho, its not worth it.

I haven't been this disappointed about a game in a long, long time. I'm a svcker for these kinds of apocalyptic games but I can't get past these mediocre and just plain crappy gameplay elements. I was stoked about this game but after learning about this... all it does is make me rage, literally. Maybe that's why they called it "rage" in the first place, because they knew people were going to be upset. el oh el, fail.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:41 am

I'll rent it from Gamefly but thats it.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:46 am

For sure I'm gonna wanna play through it at least once.

I just need for someone to tell me "You have to play this game (Rage)" and it becomes an must/auto purchase
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:27 am

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:28 pm

I saw some gameplay footage, nice gameplay footage, on IGN and it looks like a tonna fun.

One suggestion/question, why can't an enemy be inside one of those broke down vehicles using it for cover to shoot at you. I see em coming in from all diff places, but none who are smart enough to think to themselves "Let me hide in this car for a bit and when some of my friends die I'll stick my head and gun out and bust some shots"
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:42 pm

id's trying to break free of their bonds. Whats wrong with that, if it doesn't work they will probably release a patch or something. But it sounds awesome :3
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:09 am

I agree. My main gripe is the co-op being shoved off to the side from the main game. And only 2 player? That's just hiliarous. I thought it was going to be at least 4 players. If it's only two player co-op you can count me out for good because there's absolutely no point to that at all. Hugely disappointed. What were they even thinking lol? They have these great visuals and core designs but when it comes down to it its like they are TRYING to ruin it as much as possible! Really don't understand it at all. Also, the multiplayer pvp is ... CARS? You gotta be kidding me........ I mean you really gotta be kidding me.

10-12 hours of single player... in a sandbox structured atmosphere ? That's weak. I'm sure the co-op "LEVELS" are not even going to be sandbox. I mean it isn' a part of the main game so....... "??". Yeah, this game isn't worth 60 dollars. I'll just buy it "used" or wait for a steam sale. There's no way I would pay 50 or 60 dollars for this. Imho, its not worth it.

I haven't been this disappointed about a game in a long, long time. I'm a svcker for these kinds of apocalyptic games but I can't get past these mediocre and just plain crappy gameplay elements. I was stoked about this game but after learning about this... all it does is make me rage, literally. Maybe that's why they called it "rage" in the first place, because they knew people were going to be upset. el oh el, fail.


From the start Rage was gonna be an intense single-player game! How long can you rent for? Maybe a week, about, thats not nearly enough to try and scratch the surface of this game! Would you try and tackle Fallout in a week? Not if you wanted to actually play the game as oppose to sprint through every town, city and enemy base!

However, despite this I am kinda dissapointed that there is only 2-player co-op and I completely agree with your point revolving around the need for about 4-player.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:32 pm

I am unhappy about there being no real multiplayer, just racing around in a vehicle shooting at each other is gonna get old fast.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:36 am

do not care! going to be fun multiplayer until you try it! games are like girls! until the tests are not as truly know!
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:37 am

I usually don't play competitive multiplayer so much so these multiplayer modes sound just right for me. Besides if i want to play Capture The Flag, Deathmatch, etc... i can just play one of the hundreds of games that already have it.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:03 am

If you want TDM or CTF play COD! Simple as that. Besides..lately there have been wayyy too many cheaters and it ruins gameplay IMO. So I'm all for what iD did. Looking forward to this game!!! If I had to nitpick I just wish it had an over the shoulder element like Gears, then it would be bangin!!!
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:59 pm

Be grateful instead of inconsiderate. Rage was only suppose to have a campaign, nothing else. So for people like Armedsauce who are spreading the rumours of a 10-12 hour campaign need to shut up. They spent over 7 years working on this. Be prepared for a heck of an enjoyable singleplayer. Only thing i agree with Armed is that a 4 player co-op would be more fun then a 2 player one. But that shouldnt factor between buying the game. If you want a good multiplayer, halo or cod should feed your need. Seriously, over 7 years of production and you think its only gonna be 10 or so hours. Thats laughable. Expect atleast 20-50 hours of gameplay. I doubt it would be anything short to fallout3's. Which i have 76 hours of recorded time in. Anyways, the game isn't even complete, just hold your horses and wait. You might be happy with the results, but then again you might not.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:46 pm

From the start Rage was gonna be an intense single-player game! How long can you rent for? Maybe a week, about, thats not nearly enough to try and scratch the surface of this game! Would you try and tackle Fallout in a week? Not if you wanted to actually play the game as oppose to sprint through every town, city and enemy base!

However, despite this I am kinda dissapointed that there is only 2-player co-op and I completely agree with your point revolving around the need for about 4-player.


If its going to be an intense single player game, then why add co-op and "multiplayer". Immediately people are going to want a decent co-op and a decent multiplayer. Sadly, for me, neither are even close to qualify as something I would want to play. Why go mediocre on it? I don't want to race cars in multiplayer or play twisted metal (ewww /barf ) I want to play FPS in multiplayer. TDM, CTF, whatever. 2-player co-op, ew. All it does for me is scream "CONSOLLEEE PORT"!!!

Like I said, if it was intentionally supposed to be a single player game, then why are they implementing these multiplayer modes. It wouldn't bother me if they didn't svck, but they DO svck and it pisses me off.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:37 pm

If its going to be an intense single player game, then why add co-op and "multiplayer". Immediately people are going to want a decent co-op and a decent multiplayer.

Oh, so you cant have a predominatntly singe player game with some co-op modes? wait. what?



Sadly, for me, neither are even close to qualify as something I would want to play. Why go mediocre on it? I don't want to race cars in multiplayer or play twisted metal (ewww /barf ) I want to play FPS in multiplayer. TDM, CTF

then either
A )buy a different game
B ) join a mod community..... you never seem to reply back to this little bit.. but do some looking.. death matches were made popular by game modders that modded Id games. the game modes you are complaining about this game not having were born in the mod communities. and will continue with this game.
i swear, they need to start teaching history lessons to all this generations gamers before they even allow them to own a PC or console.


whatever. 2-player co-op, ew. All it does for me is scream "CONSOLLEEE PORT"!!!

if you are such a PC guy, then really, you shouldnt care because you know what i said above is true; that the mod community is going to put a lot out for his game.
Just like with DOOM and QUAKE, where TDM and CFT were born.

And please do get it right- there are NO PORTS for this game. one of the things that ID was busy doing was creating software that just works across platforms and PC without having to port. but i know. they should be making great CTF maps that are just like every other game, instead of bringing new innovation to the gaming industry, right? please.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:45 am

Again, you haven't played the damn game yet so you don't know if it's any good. Stop making threads complaining about the same thing!!!
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:10 am

cannibal, why should I have to make mods or download mods to get a great playing experience? it should already be there with the 50-60 dollars I would initially be spending. You fail to realize that simple principle.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:23 am

cannibal, why should I have to make mods or download mods to get a great playing experience? it should already be there with the 50-60 dollars I would initially be spending. You fail to realize that simple principle.

You won't need mods and downloads for a great gaming experience, the single player game will give you that. :)
Its your pre-concieved notion that online co-op and/or death match must be included in the vanilla game in order to make it worth the money.
if it isnt worth the money for you then thats cool, but bashing the game as youre doing is completely unwarranted.
You are complaining about Id making an Id game- The mod community has always been crucial for death match and so on.
They never made that their job. Their job has always been new innovations in software applied to gaming. Id has always been software-nerdy like that.
This has pretty much always been John Carmack's ethos.


If you want a game thats primarily online multiplayer focused then get a game that uses that as its model.
not one that has always purported it will be a single player FPS at its core, and has selling points that reflect innovations in software.

its like youre going to an itialian restaurant and complaining that there isn't any orange chicken and they say "theres no orange chicken on the menu, but we can get some from the restaurant next door" , you get all pissy because it takes extra time to go next door.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:13 am

Bashing the game is unwarrented?

They made the co-op 8 levels, separated from the main game, its only 2 player and the multiplayer is some kind of twisted metal thing with cars and has nothing to do with FPS.

No, I think bashing that IS warrented. If their focus was to make the multiplayer as horrible as they could then they succeeded. But honestly, why did they bother with it in the first place if its this bad?

I don't understand why game developers can't make a good SP with good multiplayer mixed in. Every game should come out like that standard nowadays. Maybe ID still living in the past.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:51 pm

Bashing the game is unwarrented?

They made the co-op 8 levels, separated from the main game, its only 2 player and the multiplayer is some kind of twisted metal thing with cars and has nothing to do with FPS.

No, I think bashing that IS warrented. If their focus was to make the multiplayer as horrible as they could then they succeeded. But honestly, why did they bother with it in the first place if its this bad?

I don't understand why game developers can't make a good SP with good multiplayer mixed in. Every game should come out like that standard nowadays.

bashing a game because you thought it was going to be something that it never claimed to be is competely unwarranted, sorry.
such a sense of entitlement these days.
youre given everything to make the game any way you want and youre still not happy. PC users 20 years ago would have killed to have the luxurious full game editor that you get with the PC copy, but you just want everyting handed to you.
boo hoo, move along.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:25 pm

bashing a game because you thought ti was going to be somethign that it never claimed to be is competely unwarranted, sorry.
such a sense of entitlement these days.
youre given everything to make the game any way you want and youre still not happy.
boo hoo


It was never claimed to have co-op or multiplayer? I'm afraid that it DOES. Sadly they both fall into the substandard mediocrity category of todays expected standards.

Boo hoo? Like I already said, I shouldn't have to build the game for them to make it good. I won't waste my money on this game unless they change it before launch. Sept is a long way off. That's the only reason I'm posting here, to maybe knock some small ounce of sense into these developers heads. (if they even read these boards, they probably don't).
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:36 am

It was never claimed to have co-op or multiplayer? I'm afraid that it DOES. Sadly they both fall into the substandard mediocrity category of todays expected standards.

Boo hoo? Like I already said, I shouldn't have to build the game for them to make it good. I won't waste my money on this game unless they change it before launch. Sept is a long way off. That's the only reason I'm posting here, to maybe knock some small ounce of sense into these developers heads. (if they even read these boards, they probably don't).

it claimed that it had a small amount of it yes. go back and listen to interviews. they never painted the multiplayer as being huge.
thats why they say over and over and over that at its core its going to be a single player first person game.. and alude tot he co-op parts as being something extra. extra as in "Multiplayer is not the main selling point of the game, its something extra that we added"


they have acknowleged in interviews what other games are doing in the way of multiplayer and RPG elements, and are saying that they dont want to go that direction.
they also know some gamers like you are gonna be turned off by it. youre not knocking an ounce of anything anywhere by being here.
youre not telling them anytng they havent heard.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:17 am

it claimed that it had a small amount of it yes. go back and listen to interviews. they never painted the multiplayer as being huge.
thats why they say over and over and over that at its core its going to be a single player first person game.. and alude tot he co-op parts as being something extra. extra as in "Multiplayer is not the main selling point of the game, its something extra that we added"


they have acknowleged in interviews what other games are doing in the way of multiplayer and RPG elements, and are saying that they dont want to go that direction.
they also know some gamers like you are gonna be turned off by it. youre not knocking an ounce of anything anywhere by being here.
youre not telling them anytng they havent heard.


I can assure you when I say, no gamer is going to be turned off by the fact that there is more to-do and more content, with co-op and fully fleshed out multiplayer. Why would they be? That type of thinking is completely absurd.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:56 am

I've never played the multiplayer on any id game I've ever played. Its all about the single player, baby!
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:26 pm

Why no normal on foot human vs human versus modes? Not even the typical TDM modes? If they wanted to get creative then go the route Left 4 Dead and Dead Space 2 did and give us control of the mutants with one team humans one team mutants with different abilities or something. We already know there are going to be dozens of different mutant enemies why not capitalize on that and use it in multiplayer? Don't take out the most popular form of multiplayer though and replace it with a twisted metal vehicle combat knock off!!!

Agreed, I want a typical TDM mode, and maybe something like CTF or King of the Hill. But, I'd settle for a MP mode like L4D or Dead Space. And, yeah the Twisted Metalish MP is a great idea, but it won't last, and it won't attract a large audience.
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