Then honestly I don't know what you expected, it was pretty obvious what type of game it was going to be.

Perfectly right. Had the same impression.
Also reminds me of 90s japanese RPG style.
Character improvement mechanism is rather obvious based on fullfilling tasks rather than your way of playing.
Being an old fart, i can relate to that pretty well.

+1

Well, RAGE is much better than COD or battlefield, this post-apocalyptic world isn't boring or stuff like that. I beat the game in 15 hours or sth like that, doing all side quests and collecting all cards, recipes etc. Think that it's worth its price

You haven't actually played it at all, have you? Because there's nobody in the middle of the game who says that. Unless you're referring to something else?

I don't get the level of hate and anger...LOL...

It's as if the game was made just to piss them off. Why do they seem to be taking it so personally? It's become obvious that the haters are mostly RPG players. Who are focused on what the game isn't, as opposed to what the game is...an FPS...

There's posts like that in which I make no sense of either. It's a vague association to something and they were assuming we understood exactly what they were talking about, but in all reality we just interpret it as a nonsensical rant.

Yeah there is, its the leader of the rebels, right before you transitition to the next town.

They really love this stupid game. They think it's all a conspiracy that many people are not happy with it so they call you a liar ... because it's your fault the game is crap.

Hope this helps a bit to understand this rather strange cul de sac on the good ole interweb.

It's all about false expectations....

"Really love"? Eh, what part of "fallacy of the excluded middle" is being misunderstood here?

Huh. All of it.

I was just 'splainin' the reasons you called him a liar. What he said seemed to me like it must have been the stuff leads up to the transition to Subway but I have only been there twice.

I play Rpgs, some of them, like Witcher 2 and Mass Effect, but im a Fps'er mostly. I played D1, 2, 3, expansions, multiple times, Quakes. I loved D3, mostly. Despite the limited dialogue, the story made sense, your a soldier, shutup and get to work. I would have appreciated more of it for sure, with a longer intro like HL1 and RPG elements like Chronicles of Riddike. I played Unreal Tournament, Rainbow Six and Rouge Spear, Tribes 2, Operation Flashpoint online, Battlefield 2, 2142 and Bad Company 2 for years and years... Those are just the online games. Metro 2033 is probably just about my favorite game.....

Rage is an FPS, and it svcks, it is horrible to me. Im on this forum in preparation to tear it a new one and warn people against it and also let the devs know about a few critical bugs/things they should consider fixing, like the inverted mouse look for looking around the environment your vehicle going against 20 years of mouse use. WHAT THE [censored] WAS THAT? I basically had to stop to look around and thus i couldn't look at stuff while driving. Ugh...so much more though...

Kids, this is what you call an overreaction.

Save the world, trash a stupid $20.oo video game. We could sell bumper stickers.

The only valid point is the last one concerning bugs.
But what makes you think that "tearing a game a new one" and missionizing other people not to buy it is in any way justified just because YOU dislike it?

There are so many games around that i dislike for several reasons but that doesn't make me preachy.

We have lots of options today to check gameplay and content of a game BEFORE buying it.
I haven't bought a game in years that i got frustrated over as i always watch vids, play demos or borrow a copy from friends for testing BEFORE buying.
This is my advice to all gamers that are uncertain of buying a game or not.

You name (the) Mass Effect (series) as an example for games that you play:
I testplayed the demos and disliked the guided gameplay and the overboarding dialogue but that doesn't make me join Bioware's forums to "warn" other people not to buy it or "tear Mass Effect a new one"!!!

Leave politics to politicians. If you made a bad choice spending your money it's your own fault.

You're 6 months too late. Also with the "my opinion equals some kind of universal truth" thing.

How about instead of warning people against it, you make some kind of honest effort to join in discussions about where it could be improved (and let's just say this again - there is plenty of room for improvement in it) and contribute a little by helping out those who are continuing to have technical issues with it?

An absolutely amazing game. You end up playing it non stop when you get it which is bad because before you know it, it unexpectedly ends with no way to carry on. That isn't to say it hasn't any contents as you do get a few good missions and it has a few re-generating side quests such as mutant bash, racing, gambling games and riding out in the open territory destroying bandits.

The main problem is that the finale doesn't allow you to carry on free roaming after completion. I'm sure this will be corrected with the up coming dlc. I think some companies do it so that people buy the dlc. Fallout 3 was the same. In fallout 3, I just managed to get my power armor and I went up against the enclave to find out that I end up dying if I make the righteous final decision.

Again it is the same with Rage as there is no way of carrying on after completing the main quest other than a previous save or starting again without embarking on the final mission.

Other than that it is one hell of an amazing game with great ideas, great combat, great environment, great racing and amazing enemies. Well worth $20. It isn't a low budget game and it isn't a fail other than than the very end.

if you do not mind a used ver you can get a copy for 10 bucks on amazon

Don'tsee hwat you would have against a used copy, if it works, it works. I personally love buying 2nd hand games, as I know that if it doesn't work, money back. Something like games re really quite cut and dry with that sort of thing, which allows people to haeva bit more confidence in buying used things.

True, but we were all told that Rage was supposed to have a good story. Tim Willits went on and on about how rich the universe was and how they had created a detailed world full of character and life and blah blah blah. If Tim had simply said "Look! Muties and bandits and soldiers, oh my!" then Rage's bad story might've been forgivable, but as it is there's really no excuse for Rage's crappy narrative.

I'd say the plot and characters are good, its simply the execution that leaves something to be desired.

Well by id standards it certainly fits Willits' description. We're in territory where the normal storyline goes something like "there are monsters, you have a gun, go kill 'em".

That's also true, but something a lot of people fail to recognize is that although Doom 3's storyline was very simple, it at least had a clear beginning, middle, and end, things which Rage sorely lacks.

I thought RAGE was fun, the gameplay was fun, the environments where really well made and looked great, had some good voice acting and really really good animations, the writing and plot wasn't really great and the ending was awful, but I still had fun, though I had no expectations when I first played it.

Libertine4 just acts like RAGE [censored] his dog or something.