[leigh stewart]

Some posts went away. This is a discussion thread for the mod, not a debate about whether something is proper HDR or not. Which is okay to discuss but not with all the insult throwing that was going on here. Lets get back on topic and keep it civil. If you must, discuss it privately.

[Nick Pryce]

Have you guys thought about making changes to the way eye adaption works? Make the effect more pronounced like so:

[img]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7061684373_5b043714a0_b.jpg[/img]

This is a bit of an extreme example but it's a particularly nice effect when you come out of a dark place that your eyes have adjusted to. Also it can be very useful for seeing things hidden in shadow.

Looking forward to v2.2 keep up the good work guys.

[Marine Arrègle]

I will talk with the team about eye reduction, thanks for sharing

In the meantime, we are about to release 3.0 .. which is a huge update since the HDR has been totally reworked and another ton of things like Dynamic Interiors! =) , aLaaa will soon post officially all the changes and stuff about it...

You can watch the Release Video Here : http://youtu.be/gFFOyfcAxh8?hd=1

[Michelle Smith]

Zocks, will the new version be able to work with the newest enb series (111) that adds nice shadows? I wanted to try the enb thing, but installing that made RCRN v2.1 not work (replaced a .dll file).

[Pixie]

Spiffyman, I dont know about the Version 111, but ENB its RCRN Compatible via DLL Proxy .. Here are the Instructions:

NB Version before 103: Rename the RCRN′s d3d9.dll to d3d9_RCRN.dll. Then edit your enbseries.ini . Set EnableProxylibrary and InitProxyfunctions to =true . the proxyLibrary=d3d9_RCRN.dll.ENB
Version from 103: d3d9.dll need no rename since this ENB Versions use an Injector.
Thats it. Be aware that, both mods can be used at the same time, but the Color Palette from RCRN will be different due the ENB settings.. so you dont get A Pure RCRN feeling as intented but a mix of both mods. Netherthenless, try it out and see if you like

I guess 111 will still use the injector?, so no need to rename any d3d9.dll files.

[DAVId Bryant]

I tried that out, and the shadow feature worked, but it defintely messes with RCRN. Saturation, lighting (super dark when used with RCRN!) and other things that I felt subtracted to the experience. It would take a lot of tweaking to end up with just RCRN+new shadows which isn't worth it to me. Plus it gave a big performance hit for me (RCRN does too, so I have to disable some of it's features). Long story short, I'll just stick with RCRN v3 and be happy.

One thing I would like to know about the dynamic lighting: In the demo video, there was a fireplace that didn't really light up anything aside from the table right next to it. in the room. Will it also be that way in the final version, or did you guys make the fires a bit brighter since the demo?

[Genocidal Cry]

There are ENB setups tailored for RCRN to keep the RCRN saturation etc but get DoF/SSAO from ENB. Search Nexus for iluf for example. Also me and my brother have been working on one (for 2.1 obv) that we'll release once we've tailored it for v3.0, granted I can get .111 of ENB to work properly with AA and no texture shimmering.

[Fluffer]

Have I lost my marbles, or does this mod affect the way lighting looks in the CK?

[Benjamin Holz]

Have I lost my marbles, or does this mod affect the way lighting looks in the CK?

Sounds reasonable as the CK loads the d3d9.dll aswell

[Olga Xx]

Exactly Peste ^^

Spiffyman, I have looked into this with the Pure version.. In Jarrblabla (can never get the name right ^^) its maybe a bit darker as it should be ... its better as the video though:
http://www.forum-vault.org/lager/skyrim/jardark.jpg

In other places like the Inn looks better
http://www.forum-vault.org/lager/skyrim/innmidnight.jpg

Both has been taken at midnight, the darkest it can get.

Dynamic Interiors is brand new and it may need some further tuning.. so thanks for bringing this up, we will definitly recheck that place for 3.1. As RPGWizard Said:

Anyway a v3.1 update arriving rather quickly is rather obligatory, there's probably a few things that may need ever so slight polishing and maybe some bug fixes as usual is the case with every major update and the lack of time to properly test it all in order to bring it out in a somewhat timed manner (erhum, I know we already missed the release schedule slightly )

As usual if you find any bugs or things you think may look odd or needs addressing/tweaking, by all means let us know! Skyrim is such a huge game to be able to test every corner of Skyrim and 3 people doing that is rather time consuming process if we'd ensure totally bug-free experience, we've spent lots and lots of hours as usual but there's still cases that may slip unnoticed.

Sofar feedback has been pretty good, and for cases like this, is still room for improvement =)

[Causon-Chambers]

Just wanted to pop in and say that I use RCRN Pure, and absolutely love it. The colors are all deeper and richer feeling and nights are very, very dark, just the way I like it. And the way my view distance drops at night with a bright torch in my face, and extends when using only moonlight is just... magical

Keep it up!

[Tarka]

So since RCRN has AA does that mean I can disable it in game? And if doing that from the ini file do I set the value to 0 or to 1?

[Amber Ably]

3.0

[jasminε]

Angry Eeyore,

RCRN does come with FXAA, and can be used together with all the in game options (AA, AF, FXAA) together if you want. I Personally use RCRN FXAA, ingame 2xAA 4xAF and FXAA.

You dont need to manually edit the ini file, the customizer will do that for you.

[Jade]

overkill smoothing zocks!

[Danel]

Sounds reasonable as the CK loads the d3d9.dll aswell

OK, thanks, that’s what I thought. Now, short of uninstalling the mod, is there any way to have vanilla lighting in the CK and run RCRN in the game?

Also, one thing I’ve noticed even with vanilla lighting, is that some light sources seem WAY too bright to the point that they “wash out” surfaces where the light shines. A good example is in Proudspire Manor on the second floor. It just seems totally too bright in that area, and it’s so bright that some areas are so bright that they look washed out or bright white. This also occurs with light sources you often see around large fires. I used to get something similar in Oblivion when I ran it in HDR mode, but it wasn’t near as bad just running Bloom it seemed.

I don’t know if my terminology is correct (probably not) but I wish something could tone down those ultra-bright light sources globally. But something tells me it’s in the individual light source and not something in the effects or whatever. Also, I’m probably the only one, but I didn’t care too much for the orange tinted torches in the previous version.

[ZzZz]

OK, thanks, that’s what I thought. Now, short of uninstalling the mod, is there any way to have vanilla lighting in the CK and run RCRN in the game?

One thing you could do is simply rename the d3d9.dll to d3d9.dll.old or something whilst using the CK and then name it back when playing Skyrim

[Damien Mulvenna]

Wow! I can't believe i missed this. Looks great.

[Monika]

OK, thanks, that’s what I thought. Now, short of uninstalling the mod, is there any way to have vanilla lighting in the CK and run RCRN in the game?

Yeah, just press the Pause Key to deactivate the injector, works in the CK aswell


About the bright light.. each imagespace . etc has its own values, and not easy to get them under control.. complicated stuff.. more to aLaaa to explain ^^

[Steven Nicholson]

Yeah, just press the Pause Key to deactivate the injector, works in the CK aswell


About the bright light.. each imagespace . etc has its own values, and not easy to get them under control.. complicated stuff.. more to aLaaa to explain ^^

Thanks for the pause button tip! That will come in handy while modding. I like to mod with everything as vanilla as I can to hopefully prevent conflicts down the road. And yeah, I’ve done tons of interiors so I know about Image Spaces and the Lighting tab. I think what I see that bugs me the most is when a light source has too large of a radius or is placed too close to a wall or other object that it’s brightness and intensity overpower the object it’s close to. When that happens, the wall or object is so brightly lit by the source that it basically becomes washed out (that’s the only term I know how to describe it) and it’s almost solid white where the light source is illuminating it. I don’t know if that’s technically called saturation or what, but it bugs me, lol. But this happened in Oblivion, Fallout 3, FNV and now Skyrim, so it’s in the engine for sure. I just make sure my lights radius are not too big or too close to a wall, table or whatever when I build my interiors.

Thanks again for the GREAT mod, and the tip!

[sally R]

Loved the previous RCRN, I just updated to the new version.

Very quickly, does the weather now affect the darkness? I play with quite a dark screen anyway and it seems very dark even though it's about 9am... wait an hour and it's bright sunshine.

Indoors, have you changed the 'brightness' of a tavern (say) during the day and dimmed it down during the night?

I went into a tavern in MArkath, it was rather bright, then i slept for 10 or so hours and when i woke up it was back to how it normally is with v.2.1

[chirsty aggas]

Desetuede: For the second question, they added dynamic lighting for interiors. So in Markarth, there will be light through the windows and brightening up the room. As evening approaches it dims until midnight where the only light comes from a fireplace or torches. As the sun comes up, light will slowly brighten the room again.

[Fam Mughal]

do we really need MSAA and/or skyrim's FXAA if using this mod?

EDIT: I forgot to ask, does RCRN affect sneak/stealth calculations?

[Frank Firefly]

Using either of the other antialiasing options give you even more antialiasing, but I believe RCRN's FXAA is of better quality than Skyrim's FXAA. I set my AA to 2x (very little perfomance hit for this level) and turn of skyrim's FXAA in favor of RCRNs. As for the sneaking, it will affect it a bit because areas are darkened, but RCRN's post processing darkness only affects you, meaning the NPCs have an easier time seeing you than you do seeing them (since they don't have that extra darkness).

[Kari Depp]

thanks what about nvidia's FXAA, that can be forced with the latest beta drivers?