Should Skyrim have a trainer to reset your perks? : V - Skyrim

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:20 pm

No.

As you said it cuts down the need for new characters, if I can just reset my skills it wrecks the replay value.

Say my archer wants to smith some dragonbone armor, I just reset my perks, craft the armor and then switch back totally ignoring the investment in that skill. Or I respec and put points in enchanting and alchemy, buff my gear and then respec back to my old build and I've got free enchantments. Totally gamebreaking, if they added such a feature I'd only support it if you could only do it ONCE per character. If someone makes a mistake while picking perks, they can just reload a previous save if it's that big of a deal to them.

This and it pretty much kills the only real consequence in the game.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:42 am

That's why I suggested a one time use only respec. Once, no more. And since this is a...
*puts a megaphone up to K-9's ear* SINGLE PLAYER GAME
*puts it down*
...In which the actions of other players has zero effect on you as a person, or your game itself beyond your own choices...I don't see the harm in allowing it only once.

What did you said? Couldn't hear you :teehee:

I still thinks it would remove some of the soul TES games have.
And the one time reset is just a step from no consequences and all the resets you want.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:50 am

What did you said? Couldn't hear you :teehee:

I still thinks it would remove some of the soul TES games have.
And the one time reset is just a step from no consequences and all the resets you want.

I'm going to have to say we choose to agree to disagree and flip this table.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:23 am

Good question I think and would you take advantage of it.

It would cut down on the need to constantly create new characters but might hurt the longevity of the game.

Your thoughts?

you should have made this thread a poll.

i for one would have voted yes

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:32 pm

I'm going to have to say we choose to agree to disagree and flip this table.

I agree to us disagreeing :bunny:

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:01 am

They should make it a "fake" level up feature beyond 81. Basically, every time you "level up" beyond 81, you gain 0 stats, but have the option of removing a perk and selecting a new one.

You can't level up beyond 81. That's the hard cap, meaning every skill is at 100, meaning you can't get any more skill increases. Also, I'm against this idea. It'd be like wanting to rearrange your attributes, or respec on feats in D&D.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:54 pm

Good question I think and would you take advantage of it.

It would cut down on the need to constantly create new characters but might hurt the longevity of the game.

Your thoughts?

On my first and main character yes. I think it should be limited though to something like three perks

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:23 am

You can't level up beyond 81. That's the hard cap, meaning every skill is at 100, meaning you can't get any more skill increases. Also, I'm against this idea. It'd be like wanting to rearrange your attributes, or respec on feats in D&D.

Reading comprehension. That is why I said "fake" level ups, as in it does not actually increase your level or confer any bonus beyond the ability to remove and re-select one perk. Having it tied in this way would prevent being able to utilize such a feature before max level where every enemy is a joke anyways, and it still requires effort on the player's part to actually achieve a "fake" level up at that point where leveling becomes very slow in order to replace the perks one by one rather than all at once.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:06 pm

No.

As you said it cuts down the need for new characters, if I can just reset my skills it wrecks the replay value.

Say my archer wants to smith some dragonbone armor, I just reset my perks, craft the armor and then switch back totally ignoring the investment in that skill. Or I respec and put points in enchanting and alchemy, buff my gear and then respec back to my old build and I've got free enchantments. Totally gamebreaking, if they added such a feature I'd only support it if you could only do it ONCE per character. If someone makes a mistake while picking perks, they can just reload a previous save if it's that big of a deal to them.

Completely agree. once would be nice

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:03 am

I agree with most when they say that it would break replay value. However, if they were going to implement it, I would want them to do it in a manner other then a trainer. I would prefer a quest or even a qeustline. If you are so serious about wanting to respec your points, you should have to work for it. Maybe meditate on all of the emblems on the way to High Hrothgar... a sort of pilgrimage. Or something even more difficult. This would lessen the chance of players abusing the respec feature.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:24 am

It would be optional. So I would never have to use it, therefore doesn't bother me if they added it.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 11:51 pm

I would like it if I could change a single perk within a set amount of time from when I originally selected it. So if I thought I was in the Destruction spell area and I selected Dual Casting, but I was actually in Restoration, it would be great to be able to change it right away.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:17 pm

Nope.

Kind of...no...totally defeats the purpose of picking a perk in the first place.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:34 am

Nope. It would ruin the role play experience to be able to reset perks.

If it were offered as an option I wouldn't mind, but I would never use it.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:12 am

Maybe with limited uses and a high cost, but doing it at will anytime you want is a no-no.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:46 pm

Yeah but it should cost a minimum of 100k if not more, or 10k per perk or something like that. Basically yes but it should be very expensive.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:49 pm

It'll probably be in eventually in some DLC or patch
personally i'd like to have the option so i can get rid of the useless perks i have in conjuration and restoration
they were helpful at low levels, but now they are never used
and i've spent way too much time to restart for a 3rd time
maybe balance it by making the trainer charge massive amounts of gold to remove a perk? idk
all i do know is that people complaining about how it would ruin the feel of the game apparently don't understand that it would be optional :wink_smile:

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:39 am

Considering that most perks are ether useless or broken... yes.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:12 am

A lot of people want this.

I don't see how Bethesda won't do it in the future.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:47 pm

no. even the "barber" they're putting in DG is ridiculous...just start a new character if you want to play with dif stats/appearance

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:29 am

Just have alot of saves if you mess up you can go back or if your like me i like the intro but playing it over and over again gets annoying so i have a save right inside the cave before you exit. Thats only if you like a certain race but thats me.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:03 pm

A one time magic spell of a sort, but even that would seem very forced

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:49 pm

No.

As you said it cuts down the need for new characters, if I can just reset my skills it wrecks the replay value.

Say my archer wants to smith some dragonbone armor, I just reset my perks, craft the armor and then switch back totally ignoring the investment in that skill. Or I respec and put points in enchanting and alchemy, buff my gear and then respec back to my old build and I've got free enchantments. Totally gamebreaking, if they added such a feature I'd only support it if you could only do it ONCE per character. If someone makes a mistake while picking perks, they can just reload a previous save if it's that big of a deal to them.

Summed it up perfectly my friend.

» Sun Jun 17, 2012 1:13 am

Definitely yes. I've gotten some bad perks which I wish I could place on something better. Plus the destruction perks I got were useless when I realized how gimped Destruction is at higher levels.

» Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:06 pm

yes due to the console being screwed over in everything. i want to be able to change my playstyle to create a character that seems to be a jack of all trades.