true but rockstar is not a american company it was founded and has its main office in scotland
its easy for us to have violent six filled games because our culture has got that [censored] it spirit and we dont have any dikes like fox that complain about the company's games when its up 2 the parents not to buy a 18+ game for their 12 year old
ps mass effect was a 12 in scotland we dnt care about six so put it in and [censored] fox

I can't see a problem with having briast's ingame because heavy rain had boob's in the game.

Fox isn't all that bad, but I do agree News Agencies including Fox or notorious for blowing stories way out of proportion. Still remember how EVERYONE was upset over that hot coffee mod "O IT WILL CORRUPT OUR CHILDREN!!!" and "THEY'LL TURN INTO DELINQUENTS!!" the masses cried. Look there's an elementary school near me and i've passed by those 4th and 5th graders on several occasions. They say so many swear words in a row even a sailor with turret's syndrome would say "there's no reason for that." Trust me they know alot more than they are letting on and get access to heck of alot of stuff.

As for seeing "Boobage" in New Vegas i'm thinking things will be kept to string bikinis and that's about it. Sadly for FO that will be pushing it since the game is already rated M for the amount of stuff it has in it. According to the ESRB FO3 was this:

Rating: M for Mature Audiences 17+
Contains The Following:

Blood And Gore (Yea for cutting heads off )
Intense Violence (Huh? How is it intense? I guess the mini nuke turning people into giblets I guess)
sixual Themes (Uhh ya in like 1 or two parts and if those idiots think the republic of Dave having more than 1 wife is sixual they need to shut up)
Strong Language (O *Censored* ya)
Use of Drugs (Come on the one time they had a RL drug in the game ratings people demanded change so Morphine was turned into "Med-X")

Adding in Nudity even brief nudity might push the game to an A rating which means it won't be sellable in any of the major stores *Wallmart, Target, Bestbuy, etc...*. However if FO3 mods work on NV with a bit of tweaking the nudity mod wouldn't be bad.

Nudity mods were awful because they didn't work with project beauty mods etc. So i hope that nudity will be in the original game, at least boobs

Some things are better left to the imgaination. Pixel nipbles are one of them.

Eh, you do know that not all Americans think alike, right? Sure, there are factions of religious purists that tend to be very loud and outspoken, but pretty much every other type of mindset is represented as well. The place I live is very liberal, quite educated, and very culturally diverse as a general rule...even by most other countries' standards.

I'm going to go ahead and ignore the "inbred" statement as ignorance to the meaning of the word. Technically speaking the U.S. is one of the more genetically diverse places in the world...if you picture people living in shacks, making moonshine, and shooting at the tax man when you think of America then you watch way, WAY too much TV. Try some reading. Reading is good.

Anyway, I think nudity in rated M games is fine when it's appropriate and not included in the game just for the sake of having nudity...that's tacky in games as well as in film. I think there's a stigma, though, with some older folks that have never done much gaming that all video games are for children. This, I think, is why some people get so up-in-arms about advlt content in games...they can't get it through their heads that some games are for advlts. You won't see most of those people complaining about R-rated movies for the most part, even though you're supposed to be age 17+ for both R-rated films and M-rated games.

Or after watching annual redneck games on youtube thehehe, confederate flag waving Caucasians with bad teeth throwing toilet seats at erected metal rods and mud diving

Some events that are held during the Redneck Games include:

* The cigarette flip
* Bobbing for pig's trotters
* Seed spitting
* Toilet seat throwing
* Mud pit belly flop
* Big-hair contest
* Wet T-shirt contest
* Armpit serenade
* Bug zapping by spitball
* Dumpster diving
* Hubcap hurling

I saw another youtube vid where a dummy of a black man was hung on a tree outisde a house with confederate flags, I'm surprised they haven't turned the entire redneck culture into some sorta video games

:facepalm:

LMAO, has to be the best comment on this topic so far. :dance:

People who classify themselves as 'Normal' can be quite the opposite in someone else's eyes as well. There are always people with alternative views that may seem obscure, offensive, or hilarious to you, just need to live with it and accept it. Some of those people you stare down on with disgust/pity/stereotypes etc. can actually be some of the nicest people you will ever meet if you take a chance to branch your hand out and talk to them for not what they are, but for who they are. Acceptance is just one small step closer to being a greater person. It's a great feeling

It probably is also related to the fact that some still hold the mistaken belief that video games are only for children, maybe in time, when video games are a better understood facet of popular culture, and when some new media that people like to accuse of corrupting our youth comes out, they will turn their sights elsewhere.

But yes, I'm sure that nudity won't be in the game in any form, if you'll notice, while video games often have graphic violence, nudity is still pretty uncommon. This is probably because in some places, nudity is generally seen as a taboo in media, while some games do take the risk, and some games made outside of America are made in countries where nudity is seen as more acceptable, and do have it. However, I imagine that Obsidian has no intention to take this risk. It seems odd that killing, even in very brutal ways, is seen as more acceptable in media than six or nudity, even if these are approached in a very healthy fashion and are perfectly suitable where they are used, but a society's values are not something I can control.

But I don't find it inappropriate to include nudity in media, provided it's used in a tasteful fashion, for one thing, if it actually has a good reason to be used where it is and isn't there just for fan service, if people want that, the internet has more than enough, in fact more than you even want, considering SOME of the things on the internet, but I think it's neither appropriate nor necessary to go further than that.

what kind of weirdo would want to see nudity in video games?

Indeed. Every time it's implemented, even for storypurposes, it just looks awkward.

There are better options you know:

1. Growing up.
2. Desperately searching for "boobage" on the internet.
3. Actually going to Vegas.

and

4. Getting a life.

That is commonly the way it seems to be to a lot of people, however keep in mind that video games are another source of story telling, rather than traditional movies, and novels. And these days gaming is evolving more and more, leading to greater opportunity to make a much better, more visual story, and somewhat amount of people read less book novels (Perhaps Gen-Y, more-so than Gen-X), so with that being said, story based gaming is becoming a more popular choice, which pretty much means nudity will of course come into the equation if the game's story is written to include a nudity scene, or maybe just nvde characters to be part of the game scene.

Remember, it's the same engine as Fallout 3, so it wouldn't look good.

I think.. boobs are good. So Fallout is good, boobs + Fallout = Epic Greatness..

Oh, I'm not opposing videogamenudity as usually I don't care. Just the methods of depicting a love scene and the amount of it. The general awkwardness of animated nudity usually hurts the atmosphere of the game - it fits in small amounts that are not overpowering, though.

Oh yes, well I completely understand where you are coming from, and I'm sorry if I seem like I'm taking a stance against what you said, because I am not at all, friend . Mass Effect was good in that you didn't have to actually go down the path of that certain love scene if you didn't wish to. If something like that isn't forced upon you, all the merrier I suppose then!

I'd like the option to turn it off (unless it had some really good male specimens like the raiders in Mad Mad 2 in chaps and topless).

Hmm, good point there. I can admit that I did find it strange that there aren't enough raiders in the Wasteland who are well built (Tank), and topless. Given their attitude (And stupidity for crossing me), I would have expected at least a few to be gutsy to not have to wear the upper body armor for combat.

No problem . We're basically at the same page.

Yes, I was disappointed not to find some topless, six-pack raiders. Especially, as stupid as the AI was to have them attack you no matter what. Could easily have seen some stupid ones thrown into the mix without top armor. Oh well, maybe we'll see something different in FO:NV.

I hope so.


From a role-playing point of view, where the hell do the Raiders get their armor from anyway? A funky advlt shop? Anyone care to shed the light here, if not in another thread somewhere?

I would like to go to the Bunny Ranch :woot: