Screenshots of the scrollbar bug: (Windows7-64)
http://i.imgur.com/RO3VB.png - Just opened the program, loaded only Skyrim.esm. Scrolled down to illustrate issue. Game path is specified in the ini file.
http://i.imgur.com/bKjeY.png - Pulled the bottom of the window down, the scrollbar position/size changes as though the bottom of the scrollbar is offset from the bottom of the window.

When you say "crash" do you mean SkyEdit, Skyrim or something else? I cannot duplicate the changes not being saved in Leveled Actors although I do see, and fixed, a potential issue with the ordering of subrecords which the game might not like and may cause it to crash. If the leveled list is somehow corrupted in the plugin it may not load correctly in SkyEdit and result in not being able to update changes. Feel free to email me the mod if you'd like it fixed or even just for me to see what the reason is.

Dave - This is exactly the problem, sirkorgan beat me to the punch!

The only difference in screenshots would be as I described in my post, but the same issue.

Thanks! I would guess that the view resizing code isn't using the correct size of the client window which is resulting in the scroll bars being pushed outside of the viewable area. I changed my "theme" to default Windows 7 and I still can't duplicate it however. I did make a small change to the resizing code which might fix the problem in the next release (or make it worse...I hate guessing when trying to fix problems).

Nice to know this. Does the DisplayFilter/EndFilter need to be paired for each subcategory or no? (I'm guessing yes, but want to make sure)

If I set this up for all the categories and send the .dat file to you, would you be willing to include it in your release?

There is a DisplayFilter/EndFilter pair for each item in the category list. So, in my example for Weapons::A there would be an almost identical section for Weapons::B, another one for Weapons::C etc.... Obviously this will make the displayfilters.dat file large very fast, especially if done for each record. If such a feature is desired it may be better to add the feature to the filter code so that it automatically creates 26 A-Z filters when desired. A lot less work copy and pasting.

Wait at least for the next release and see if the filter text does enough for you.

I have some details to add regarding the behaviour of the scrollbars. Their position/behaviour seems to be linked to the height of the main skyedit application window at the time a plugin is opened (or, I suppose its specifically at the time the child window is created but I'm only testing opening a plugin)

These screenshots are just me opening up Skyrim.esm at varying main window sizes and then resizing the window that is created to examine the scrollbars.
http://i.imgur.com/DMyKp.png - (1) at this app window height the scroll bars appear to have been created correctly
http://i.imgur.com/DnIwx.png - (2) same app window height, but resizing the child window (either horizontally or vertically) causes the bottom of the list to jump up and leave empty space at the bottom of the window. The empty space remains at a constant height as the child window is continually resized
http://i.imgur.com/z7ViP.png - (3) at this window height (shorter than 1 & 2 but taller than in my previous post) the scrollbars seem to consistently behave correctly as the window is resized
http://i.imgur.com/SEdek.png - (4) a slightly taller window than in 3, the scrollbars also behave consistently/correctly but observe the empty space at the bottom of the window
http://i.imgur.com/1onSQ.png - (5) maximized main application window
http://i.imgur.com/MK8gW.png - (6) maximized, after resizing the child window

The height of that empty space under the horizontal scrollbar in (2) and (6) after resizing the child window is 34px

Should be some good clues in there I think

Sorry for not getting back sonner, Real Life comes first..


crash is in tessnip not skyedit ..Try just resaving the leveledlist from this, make a backup copy first.

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=69

I think this is happening .

skyedit is correcting the invalid LLCT that exists because I have not fixed them yet..and when viewed in fnvedit the list appear empty, but, are not really because llct is getting corrected and model stuff is getting added which should not be unless 1) master record has it or 2) manually adding them

also if I just go through all the lcharambient*.* list and make active in new plugin , and then tick "calculate from all levels" and "count" on them all and save, same results has above..

Hopefully that helps..

I also sent PlutoMan the same thing from above to test..but he has a slighty new version, but, problems exist's in both..

Else it could be I do have alot of security protetion running has well - mse, secureanywhere, outpost pro..all with behavior blocking enabled etc..wonder skyedit needs access to something that I am not giving it..

I'm pretty sure this is due to a bug in v 0.41a (and less) of SkyEdit when saving leveled lists that is fixed in the next release as everything seems to be working fine here. If you do still run into the same or similar issue though, just let me know. Hopefully v0.045a will be out later today.

Update Note: https://github.com/downloads/uesp/skyedit/SkyEdit0.045a.zip has been released.

Thanks for the release, it's very helpful.
However, I still can't seem to set a GMST using the perks. I was wanting to create a new ranked perk in the destruction tree that allowed to at rank 1 to cast 2 runes and rank 2 to cast 3 runes. I thought I could do this my altering iMaxPlayerRunes, however I can't seem to do so using the perk interface as it is now. It seems like I should be able to as there is an option for GMST..... any suggestions?

okay.. looking good... (wait for it!) BUT...

The scroll bars & not seeing the last few records on scroll down issues still occur... however... it only happens if you start with SkyEdit NOT maximized, load an esm/p THEN maximize SkyEdit.

If you Maximize SkyEdit first, then load an esm/p, the scroll bar and scrolling down to the last record works as it should... The Horizontal scroll is present and working also this way.

Now I'll actually go play with it and see what's new and exciting!

Thanks Dave!

With the last version 0.045a, Skyedit crash everytime I save my mod . Don't know why and nothing is visible in the logs.
This problem do not happen with 0.031a.

Thanks for adding Camera Shots!

Same here. Any time I save, insta-crash. Is your file over a certain size? My esp is over three meg, and when I load a different esp that's smaller I don't get a crash.

95ko for me, and it crash. So i don't think it's size related.

Edit:Actually I can randomly recreate the crash...not exactly sure what the cause is yet but there will be a new release as soon as I do.

Update: Found the issue...a simple mistake when saving the local strings resulted in heap corruption if more than 32 strings were saved.

Update: https://github.com/downloads/uesp/skyedit/SkyEdit0.046a.zip is out which fixes the crash bug (at least the one we know about).

Thank you for this. I wonder if there will be settings we can change using this tool that wont be present in the CS... Hmmm.

Thank you, new version working now. Great

About future updates, it's possible to add the possibility to copy a condition ? Or batch edit them ?

Fixed it for me as well. Been testing it for a bit now trying to see if any nasty crashes are waiting in store for me, but it seems to be solid

I'm guessing you'll be able to edit the same data but possibly in different ways, like the batch edit of SkyEdit which is sometimes incredibly useful. A big benefit of third party tools like this is it can implement features at the request of the community while the CK is pretty much fixed in stone.


I've been thinking about that a bit...at a minimum I'd like to be able to "drag" the conditions button from one record to another which would copy all conditions. Another option would be to make the conditions edit dialog non-modal although this complicates the interface somewhat. More complex features like this will probably have to wait until most of the records are editable in SkyEdit, including scripts.

Same problems has before, after making any changes to leveledlist, saving, then trying to open with tessnip causes a crash

could be leveled actors subrecord modl that is getting added that could be causing tessnip to crash.

fnvedit show this for order of subrecords EDID LVLD LVLF MODL LLCT LVLO LVLO LVLO LVLO < - the modl should be at very end..

But in fnvedit the list are on longer empty and kept the changes that I did make in skyedit.

Let me try and make just leveled actor changes and not having any new npc records, armo / arma records and see if one of those may not be the cause..and will report back..

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Can we have a backup feature like what tes4edit/fnvedit have, that when you activate a esp from selection list, it makes a backup copy once it is modified in skyedit folder just in case something happens..or in skyrim folder and name plugin example: skyrimcreaturesalive.esp.sky001

if that is possible..

I'm trying to adjust the Avoid Death once a day auto cast heal perk. Can't seem to find the value to modify when exactly the spell it cast.

Edit: Nevermind, finally found it!