Skyrim gave me an A+ on my essay! : V - Skyrim

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:45 pm

Nonsense. It is not plagiarism when the story was told with his/her own words. Skyrim is not more than the inspiration.

Only when you take a written text and change the author's name does it become plagiarism.

This exactly. and now you can just tell your teacher your characters stories

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:19 am

inb4 you get accused of plagiarism

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:58 am

Not like plagiarism or anything..haha no really, hats off to you sir.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:32 am

WTF? I wrote a paper before Skyrim came out about an Imperial officer escaping from a stormcloak fort. I got a C+ because my teacher's husband was a gamer and knew that it was based off a videogame so I got marked down for no "creativity" She said that it was extremely well written and had great detail but no imagination. I made it all up and the only thing i got from skyrim was the name of the stormcloak faction.

That is dumb. Everyone gets there inspiration from somewhere. If you didn't get it from Skyrim it would have came from somewhere else. I guess if your teacher knows where your inspiration is from then it is an auto downgrade.

@Everyone on this thread.

We do NOT KNOW if it is plagiarism unless we have actually seen what he wrote. And we have not. I would like to read it though.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:42 pm

WTF? I wrote a paper before Skyrim came out about an Imperial officer escaping from a stormcloak fort. I got a C+ because my teacher's husband was a gamer and knew that it was based off a videogame so I got marked down for no "creativity" She said that it was extremely well written and had great detail but no imagination. I made it all up and the only thing i got from skyrim was the name of the stormcloak faction.

You could have changed Stormcloak to the generic 'rebel'

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:28 am

Yesterday I went to english ready to turn in my essay that I typed the night before. I handed in my essay and when my teacher came around to reading mine she was blown away by my story telling and choice of words. All I did was make up a story about the first main quest of how you have go tell the Jarl of Whiterun theres a dragon coming this way and you have to go and get the dragonstone and stuff like that. I was amazed how she fell for it

. She asked to share it with another class and said of course. So really Skyrim gave an A+ on my essay! :banana:

Lol I've always done this except with different games' plots and I've never received lower than a B+ on em.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:22 pm

Also, I just wanted to ask, how old are all of you who are writing a Skyrim essay? I mean, I haven't written a creative essay since elementary school. For years, all of the essays I've written have been something like 'Anaylze the extestiensial markings in Conrad's Heart of Darkness in the context of feminism'

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:56 am

inb4 you get accused of plagiarism

I think you're bit late to the party.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:11 am

I actually did this for Morrowind just now, im turning it in right now. Its about Evaluating.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:18 am

This is definitely *not* something to be praised for if you used the same names that are used in Skyrim itself. You have duplicated the ideas and hard-work of someone else and then branded it as your own "work". That is the very definition of plagiarism.

If, however, you described your CHARACTER in the context of TES universe, his emotions and feelings, your words -- it's not plagiarism, just extremely unimaginative.

I would recommend that if you are planning to pursue higher education, get out of this habit very soon; as previously mentioned, it is most likely grounds for expulsion and to be quite honest, a disservice to yourself for not using any effort whatsoever or your imagination.

In the manner the OP was presented, I'm going to assume his teacher is clueless about Skyrim/TES and thinks he's brilliant.

Sorry for DP but are you kidding me? Plagiarism is word for word copying what someone says or writes. He wrote the story using his own words, therefore, good idea.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:53 am

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:55 am

Sorry for DP but are you kidding me? Plagiarism is word for word copying what someone says or writes. He wrote the story using his own words, therefore, good idea.

Yeah, and he copied what was written for the main quest, thus it is plagiarism.

How the hell are people still arguing that this is not plagiarism? He took the ideas presented by the writers at Bethesda, and presented it as his own. Plain and simple. There is no loophole that makes it even semi-acceptable, and if he ever pulled this off he real life he could be expelled or even sued.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:27 am

Hey, I feel you man, I'm using my free time to
post in an Elder Scrolls forum and have spent an obscene
amount of time writing D&D adventures. But the truth
is that in high school, it's just asking for negative attention.
If you don't mind, all the more power to you, but sometimes
its better to save your individualism and RPGing at home so
you can have someone to talk to at lunch or take to the dance.
I'm not saying be ashamed, its just not something socially accepted to be interested in.
I'm not trying to put you down, I just know from experience it can be disheartening (to say the least).

At my school everyone plays Skyrim! If you don't play Skyrim you're probably in the minority. And even if that wasn't the case, I don't really care what people think of me, if being a nerdy RPG player means no one will talk to me at lunch, then in my opinion that just means there's no one at lunch worth talking to.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:40 am

so did none of your classmates recognize that you stole a story from skyrim?! what games are these youths playing!!?

They should replace History classes with TES classes

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:33 am

Yesterday I went to english ready to turn in my essay that I typed the night before. I handed in my essay and when my teacher came around to reading mine she was blown away by my story telling and choice of words. All I did was make up a story about the first main quest of how you have go tell the Jarl of Whiterun theres a dragon coming this way and you have to go and get the dragonstone and stuff like that. I was amazed how she fell for it :biggrin:

. She asked to share it with another class and said of course. So really Skyrim gave an A+ on my essay! :banana:

lol.. Reminds me of a time when I had to write a poem for class, and slacked off. I had a Rollins Band CD with me... I just took one of Henry Rollins lyrics and read it. Terrible.. :cool:

I could've done something myself...

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:59 am

Yesterday I went to english ready to turn in my essay that I typed the night before. I handed in my essay and when my teacher came around to reading mine she was blown away by my story telling and choice of words. All I did was make up a story about the first main quest of how you have go tell the Jarl of Whiterun theres a dragon coming this way and you have to go and get the dragonstone and stuff like that. I was amazed how she fell for it :biggrin:

. She asked to share it with another class and said of course. So really Skyrim gave an A+ on my essay! :banana:

Dear oh dear. if your teacher had played Skyrim I guarantee you would`ve got an `F`.

Not smart.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:09 pm

It's called plagiarism. You'll be very lucky if you actually get away with it. In college it will earn you an "F" and possible expulsion.

Then god help people who write fan fiction.

Wrong. It is plagiarism even if you use someone else's idea. If you use 3 or more words together and it is taken from somewhere than that is plagiarism also. You need to cite Skyrim if your basing an essay off of their creation.

You cant copyright ideas unless you have them in a physical form.

Case of point, the legal battle between Games workshop (Makers of Warhammer) and a company making models with GW names for models not in existence yet. Games Workshop lost the suit because they didn't have a model of their own, so they had no copyright to protect.

Just because his story took place in the setting of Skyrim, based off the events of the game, is not grounds for plagiarism unless he took dialogue and text letter for letter.

He stated that he wrote his essay based on the Main Quest, not his own experience. That is plagiarism.

Unless he used his own experience with the games quest line as a foundation.

If you took a Led Zepplin song and changed a few of the lyrics and gave no credit to Zepplin would that be plagiarism? It seems like much the same thing as what you've described.

Based off the OP: thats not what he did. He simply used Skyrim as a foundation for his essay using plot points as hooks for his own experience. This is why you cant get sued for recounting the events of an NFL game dispite the NFL having exclusive rights over basically everything NFL related. If you were to make a video involving NFL footage, but swapped the audio, then yes, they could sue you then.

In the end, without seeing the actual essay, we don't know if anything was actually plagiarized.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:40 am

Oh FFS, stop with the legal talk. Insult the OP if you want, criticize him, admonish him, but this talk of legal ramifications is for dorks. It's not that big of a deal.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:34 am

lol, I bet you're going to get busted when she reads it out to another class and some kid thinks 'wait a minute.... I know this....'

Can't believe how many people complimenting him on this. Don't try this in higher education, or you might get called to a board/expelled.

The objective was to use your imagination and make up a story and write it interestingly. You directly ripped off from a work of fiction. I'd much rather hand in a boring story about calipers than take credit for an epic narrative that was written by someone else.

Shame on you.

It's called plagiarism. You'll be very lucky if you actually get away with it. In college it will earn you an "F" and possible expulsion.

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and speaking of plagiarism you plagiarized my profile picture :/

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:02 am

Then god help people who write fan fiction.

If someone wrote fanfiction that was an exact storyline from a game and attempted to use it for personal gain, be it scholastic recognition or money, then you would have a problem. And in fact, I'm fairly certain companies have the legal ability to have fanfiction removed from the internet if they want, just most are not that harsh.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:22 pm

It's fan fiction. Granted, OP must include a reference/credit to the original work (Skyrim) his story is based on, since his artwork isn't posted in a site exclusively devoted to Skyrim Fan Fic, amongs hundreds of others cases of 'blatant plagiarism'.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:10 am

It`s very simple. You can`t copy something and present it like your own idea. Sure, you can get ideas from it, but taking something and just changing words slightly will be seen as cheating and would be very much frowned on if anyone knew.

In fact you would not be praised by another, least alone your teacher if she even slightly reaslised you`d just taken it straight out of Skyrim.

You even used the term `fell for it` so you yourself know you cheated or decieved her.

I know I write and draw stuff.

I wouldn`t worry about Legal stuff, that`s nonsense since it`s just a school thing, but you`re not being smart or clever.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:29 am

Yeah, you'll get busted for plagiarising the prologue to The Witcher 2.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:07 pm

If someone wrote fanfiction that was an exact storyline from a game and attempted to use it for personal gain, be it scholastic recognition or money, then you would have a problem. And in fact, I'm fairly certain companies have the legal ability to have fanfiction removed from the internet if they want, just most are not that harsh.

Again, without seeing the actual essay, its impossible to know what he wrote and if anything was plagiarized. Using a story as a structure for your own experiences and telling of the tale in your own words is not plagiarizing.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:16 pm

I think it's pretty clear from OPs post that he straight ripped the SCRIPTED part of the main quest, and that part is identical for all players. He didn't write about some random walk from whiterun to Riverwood where he met a random vampire or something. There's also no evidence he changed the names as Metal God did in his LOTR parody, which makes it way more of a rip. So my guess is his essay is more plagiarism than fan fiction, but we can't know until we read his essay.

But undeniably the worst thing OP did was lie to his teacher's face when she complimented him on his creativity, and he took the credit by pretending he wrote it. He should feel ashamed and guilty, but instead he comes here and brags. What a [censored]. At least he'll get caught, sooner or later.