Let me start this by giving you an idea of where I come from: I started playing RPGs first with Final Fantasy on my Gameboy, then on the super-nintendo. In terms of single player games, I have played pretty much any SRPG I could land my hands on in the past 10 years. I am also an avid MMO player, starting with Lineage 2 and going through 2 dozen F2P before landing, like most people, on WoW, which I played for years but quit when they tried turning it into an E-sport.

I am not a "grinder". I love deep storyline, im passionate about character development and I adore games that lets me introduce my own RP into the game itself, having my decisions and moral takes impact the game world.

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Back to the subject at hand: What happened to Skyrim? I purchased this game knowing what previous TES were like, but I also purchased this game with a 2011 mindset, meaning I expected them to include RP gameplay as that is something that has been an industry standard for the past 3-4 years at least. I was excited to become the Dragonborn and change the world, but in the end I was nothing but a passerby.

- No dialogue option
- No quest branching
- No decisions to take beyond ignoring the NPC
- My character's "personality" is not kept track of, does not influence the interactions with NPCs and cannot be translated in game in any way whatsoever.
- Storyline is barebone, feels rushed and is completely un-involving.
- Nothing you do has a real impact on the world

This game railroaded my character. Sure, I have the freedom to jump off the train (ignore the NPCs), but no subtlety, no finesse, no nuances.

But the true kick in the guts, for me, was SWTOR, a new MMO that just launched on the 20th. After 6 days of playing, I can now officially affirm that I have seen the day when a MMO is a better RPG then a SRPG. This is sad.

I know, "who cares/dont let the door hit you on the way out/etc". I just cannot be the only one who feels completely let down by how little "RPG" Skyrim actually has. It is not that this game is bad: IT IS AN ADDICTIVELY ENJOYABLE GAME!!! But it is not a RPG, and I feel I was cheated when I was told it was. This is a fantasy simulator.

Ah, it's our daily "Is Skyrim an RPG?" thread.

here we go again.

It's an open world fighting game for consoles.

its an RPG.

questing
leveling up
play the hero
different ways to play, archer warrior ect.
focus on something other then constant combat

Yeah Skyrim is an RPG.

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|You expected a fusion of Elder's Scrolls with Dragon age?That would haved takend a decade to be made....

Yes this is really a rpg.

HAHAHA you sir, made my day. This, exactly.

Could you imagon it tho!!!

I consider it more of an action-adventure.

elder scrolls is rpg'ish but not fully entirely an rpg.

sandbox action game is closer.

So.... Battlefield 3 is a RPG?

- No dialogue option
- No quest branching
- No decisions to take beyond ignoring the NPC
- My character's "personality" is not kept track of, does not influence the interactions with NPCs and cannot be translated in game in any way whatsoever.
- Storyline is barebone, feels rushed and is completely un-involving.
- Nothing you do has a real impact on the world

So are the final fantasy games not RPGs?
You could apply all of these to the FF series.

I dont think some of you even know what a RPG is.

Good enough, I guess!

I keep making comparisons to Red Dead Redemption, but with added RPG bits.

And yes, a Dragon Age/TES fusion would be nice. But I'm not complaining either. This game is fun in it's own right.

I know why can't it be an rpg like fable 3 or modern warfare?.

That is why I specifically mention my expectations following the industry standard chronologically. No RP gameplay was fine in 2001. Not so much in 2011.

It's an RPG. Not every RPG is like every other one. There is no set in stone formula. 'Morrowind' and 'FFVII' and 'Chrono Trigger' and 'Adventure' and etc..... None of those come close to your rigid definition. This is coming from twenty+ year vet on all things role playing.

I'm so sick of this argument being made here. Please stop.

ninja'd, so let me continue...

Why is it fine to have no RP gameplay in 2001 and it's not okay now? That is going with the assumption that you're correct about Skyrim not having RP gameplay.

Because that is how evolution works. Something that is fine when you don't know any better is not when you do.

I highly doubt I'd rank SWTOR above this..

Mostly because I hate people. At least, on that scale I do.

Unless I can kill them. All. Then it's cool.

(sigh) Of course it is an RPG. Its a game, and in that game you play the role of a hero/character etc etc. It is an awesome RPG. End.

jupp the silly "tv-game-boxe′s" drage the PC down the limetid swamp tehy live in


well ti lock on al posts its quite clear what the counety want whit next game/expantions. more off everything, more fredome, more to do what ever they want to and MORE AVANSED QUESTING... and maybe togeter whit frends

No evolution is not linear in videogames. Some of the most widely respected rpgs such as the original Fallouts, Planescape, Baldur's gate etc all predated FF7. Just because you were playing JRPGS in the late 90s doesn't mean everyone was.

hehe, nice one