To make a man a god, is purely make believe. You're either it, or you're not.

Actually the Thalmor know he is a divine and a man becoming a divine would kinda be epic lol.

Tiber is the one who schemed and plotted his way to emperor.
You have it the wrong way around.
Talos did not assume many identities, many identities assumed Talos.

Talos is a composite god, the amalgam of many avatars of Lorkhan.
Wulfharth, Early-Beard, Talos, Septim, and a few others.

He is the re-instatement of Lorkhan into the pantheon, from the ground up, many avatars of Lorkhan re-enacted the story of creation so perfectly with their deeds and fate that this allowed the rise of Talos.

Lorkhan.2

This is a very good point! Although I've never doubted that he's supposed to be devine in the TES lore, this just proves it even more. Those stuck up elves can stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

What? is Talos and Tiber not the same person? when he wasnt a god.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Arcturian_Heresy

TalOS the god is an amalgamation of Wulfharth, Hjalti/Tiber, and Zurin Arctus

Talos of Atmora was Hjalti. Though it's likely he wasn't really from Atmora but from Skyrim or High Rock instead. Talos of Atmora just sounds cooler.

it is also stated that Talos is a name given to Pelinal Whitestrake, the original divine crusader, but only is some texts so it could be that Tiber Septim was a reincarnation of Pelinal.

we just never know who the first Talos really was as he was not listed until after Tiber's death. so.....

Unless the Thalmor have discovered his secret....

Talos, on becoming the 9th Divine, found a way to transform himself into dragonform, and therefore, he became Alduin!!!

It all makes sense now!

That's proof enough for me.
*0% Cooldown from shouts*
Did I just get trolled?

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Arcturian_Heresy
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Five_Songs_of_King_Wulfharth
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Brief_History_of_the_Empire_%28Daggerfall%29

Talos is a lot of people.

Wrong. Talos is one god who was known by many names when he was a mortal. Talos is not multiple people.

I'm glad you provided a plethora of evidence to back up that statement.

my theory, Talos is one god who always existed, probably Lorkahn-or-whatever-his-name-is. He is the only one to come down and interfere in mortal lives, and in a different avatar each time. List of Lorkahn's potential avatars:

• Ysgramor
  
• Tiber Septim/Wulfarth
  
• the guy who claimed to be the avatar of Talos
  
• Nerevarine
  
• Martin Septim
  
• Dovahkiin (PC of Skyrim)

that is all.

Nirn is a world powered by symbolism. Things are basically as people believe them to be. So, even though Ysmir and Talos were two separate people, everyone believed that they were one, and so they ended up being one god.

Also, Talos himself was known by a few different names. He started as Hjalti, was named Hjalti Talos later, then Tiber Septim when he started the Empire, and finally just Talos.

Keep in mind that one of the observers is the dreamer himself. Once Hjalti, Wulfharth, and Zurin acted out the creation myth(A significant bit of symbolism right there) the dreamer got them confused. The people as a whole didn't know the difference either.

Here is MK's list of Lorkhan avatars:


Lorkhan and his avatars:
1. Wulfharth L
2. Hjalti O
3. Ysmir R
4. Talos K
5. Arctus H
6. Septim A
N

The Nerevarine? I highly doubt it. The last Dovahkiin and champion of Skyrim? Sure, why not.

So who is "N"? Any guesses?

I'm guessing we'll be seeing them soon.

'Cepting The Neravarine had a little chat with Talos. Talking to himself?

Happens all the time with Shezarrines*.
They even fight each other, directly or by being on opposite sides of a conflict.
Then there is the somewhat popular saying 'We are all Lorkhan'.

*Avatars of Lorkhan, after http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Shezarr#Shezarr.

Except I was The Nerevarine, and I know I'm not Talos.

I was a diplomat Telvanni mage-lord Nerevarine.
I united the Houses and Ashlanders and even made peace with the rogue Ahlanders. (Got their disposition to 100 to make them non-agressive.)
I deposed Orvas Dren, removed Camonna Tong influence from the Fighters Guild and formed an alliance with the Thieves Guild.
I also 'removed' every Camonna Tong from Vvardenfell.

There is no way my demi-god of an Altmer, who studied under Divayth Fyr and Baladas Demnevanni, would have let Baar Dau fall.
He wouldnt leave for Akavir in search of adventure, abandoning the people and land he loved.

Unfortunately canon history states the Thieves Guild was wiped out by the Camonna Tong, Baar Dau fell and most the Great Houses were destroyed, including my beloved Telvanni.

There really isnt anything we can do when it comes to affecting the future as it will turn out to have happened, that is up to Bethesda.
Thats why they keep it purpously vague so as not to upset people too much, but a little is inevitable

Though in hindsight I agree with the destruction of Morrowind because of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apoptosis.

We're gonna put apoptosis in the new entropy engine.

But to topic, gotta believe in alternate universe/multiverse/parallel universe theories to explain all of this sh**. Morrowind already converted me into believing in reincarnation, and now I remember a lot of my past lives.

I dont know how real all these things are in the real world, but they are certainly interesting concepts to think about.
What I love most about Elder Scrolls lore is the opportunity it gives to philosophise over mythical and mystical concepts.

What is the 'new entropy engine'?
I have not heard of this before.