Parthy serves no gaming perpose to keep alive. On top of that he's a traitor to his own kind and would likely turn like a snake if given the chance. Read up on the lore, or just study history. The blades mission is to protect civilization, your either down with it or not. The grey beards are a bunch of out of touch with reality cultists.

He did some good, but I don't think he's spent that time doing nothing but good. He's spent most of that doing simply nothing. The Greybeards aren't about being good.. if they were, they'd be active. They're more like Taoists or Stoics.. just balanced.. just "being".

100% agreed. Also, when he did the 'evil' acts, it wasnt like he had a choice, was it?

if he, or indeed any dragon said "no, i'm not doing that" then Alduin and his buddies would either kill them on the spot, or ambush them later on.

I also dont see why Akatosh, who is a dragon, would create dragons and then turn around and say 'ok, you exist only to be killed...Sorry", as that doesn't make sense.

I for one have a easy answer for this debate: why not allow an option (or have it refered to in a future game) for both the Blades and Paarthunax andhis Greybeards to make amends, "Agree to disagree" and basically let go of the past, TRUST each other, and work together to help the world against and even more current and deadly threat...the Thalmor!

Seriously, Paarthunax did wrong, yes...but hasn't everyone?

lol.. I think you missed the point of how different they are. They'd never agree. It's the difference between war and peace. One side defines itself by war. One by peace. There's nothing to agree on.

Shucks your right, saddam should never have been hung but given the option to become a humanitarian instead.

So what you're saying is kill either the Blades or Greybeards? You also do realise that by hanging Saddam (especially since he was hanged in a violent manner), we caused a civil war in the middle east; people loyal to him went on a psycotic rampage killing others in revenge (even though he was a threat, plus he made no attempts to redeem himself or seek forgiveness)

The same happened with Bin lard-butt, and gadaffi (or whatever his name is)...This is what is so hard about conflicts...we dont know what side is the right side or what their reasons were for what they did...I dont agree with either sides methods of killing others, but we can't have a non-violent world, because nature and life is cruel.

I know it's a game, but what I'm saying is, just like in real life, wanting revenge on someone or a group of people who did wrong long ago will only lead to conflict again, it won't solve anything whatsoever.

I do give credit tp Bethesda for having these two groups that have their own reasons for what to do or not...it makes us the player have to make a moral choice, but I would still like to have an option to get rid of the Blades anyhow.

Hey let's throw in whether or not the death penalty is morally right while we're on irrelevant topics.


How about if Saddam was a whole other species (a species that thrives and exists on dominating lesser species), practically an alien, and he killed a bunch of humans thousands of years ago. Then, he taught those same humans the way of his voice so that they could overthrow and battle his own kin. Then, generations later, he seals the deal by teaching a mortal with the soul of his kin how to find out about Alienrend, the ultimate tool for killing his brother Alduin, and preventing the aliens (dragons) from ever dominating the world while he lives. Thus having saved humanity TWICE. And of course anyone can learn "Alienrend" as a shout with enough time in high rothgar, so even when the "Alienborn" is gone, a whole other generation of warriors can learn to keep the "Aliens" at bay.


Now let's forget all that...and just kill him. Just drive a sword right into the ancient beast because ol' Delphine has a chip on her shoulder. Her great, great, great, great, great, great, great grand parents probably didn't even experience those wars, but hey, she's got an oath right? Unless it applies to Odahviing of course.


*Cue anthem of the righteous*

Anybody here from Morrowind remember if there's any oath you take when you become a member of the Blades? And what the oath is? We never really became one in Oblivion, just honorary member, so I'd say it doesn't count

If if's and but's were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry christmas.

Really? So your stream of immature comments stating your negative opinion against paarth as fact are not as well?

Paarthurnax and some of the other dragons could've possibly been in a position to help the humans in the dragon war, except they were in no position to help because the blades were making a fuss and HUNTING THEM ALL DOWN.

It's quite obvious you have not listened to all the dialogue.

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