..::THE COMMUNITY TECH THREAD No. 99::..

Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:18 am

To me, if it's not max settings at 4xMSAA at 60FPS with Vsync, it's not running the game well, and a 6870 is definitely not enough to do that with most modern games.


See, to me that's unreasonable and not worth the money it usually takes to get. I'm perfectly fine with 2xAA and 40FPS.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:46 pm

See, to me that's unreasonable and not worth the money it usually takes to get. I'm perfectly fine with 2xAA and 40FPS.

The problem with 40FPS is that it's not constant. I'd take a steady 30FPS (using framerate limiter), or a steady 60FPS (using vsync); but 40FPS means it's fluctuating around 40 and that makes the video more jerky than smooth.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:26 pm

See, to me that's unreasonable and not worth the money it usually takes to get. I'm perfectly fine with 2xAA and 40FPS.

Most of the time, if you're using Vsync on a 60Hz monitor, if your FPS aren't steady above 60, it's going to repeatedly drop down to 30 which makes things a pain to play. And playing without Vsync makes any game look bad, no matter what settings its on.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:03 am

Most of the time, if you're using Vsync on a 60Hz monitor, if your FPS aren't steady above 60, it's going to repeatedly drop down to 30 which makes things a pain to play. And playing without Vsync makes any game look bad, no matter what settings its on.


So if I have a 60hz monitor and I'm running a game at +60fps I should have Vsync On?
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:06 am

So if I have a 60hz monitor and I'm running a game at +60fps I should have Vsync On?

No real reason to run above 60FPS, plus vsync reduces screen tearing.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:21 pm

No real reason to run above 60FPS, plus vsync reduces screen tearing.


Why complain when you're running somethign above +60fps :P So it's a yes...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:38 pm

So if I have a 60hz monitor and I'm running a game at +60fps I should have Vsync On?

Yes. You can only display 60 FPS on a 60Hz monitor, and vsync gets rid of screen tearing, which looks awful.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:49 pm

which windows sampler supports exs24II libraries?
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:53 am

Decided on what I wanted and buy and ended up increasing my budget my about 20USD. Pretty good deal on an 11.6" netbook, I thought.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152229
In case anyone would be interested.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:46 pm

Yes. You can only display 60 FPS on a 60Hz monitor, and vsync gets rid of screen tearing, which looks awful.


Good to know, cause it VSyinc was On :P
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:06 pm

Seeing as I will have a new netbook within the next few days, I just remembered that I don't have a Wi-Fi enabled router.
My current network setup is a Belkin F5D5231-4 router that connects to an Ambit U10C018 cable modem. I have had no input on the hardware until now. In my house, there are four desktops and two consoles. One of the consoles can and will connect wireless-ly and the other is very rarely in use. Along with that, the fourth desktop goes weeks without usage, so a four-port should still suffice. Basically, I need a router that can offer a decent wi-fi connection through out a single-story house, connect four devices via ethernet and two wireless-ly, and work well with my current cable modem.

This is one that I just quickly found while browsing newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124412 (Put the wrong link at first. XD)
Not sure if that would be perfect for my needs or not, but just throwing out a start. I'd really appreciate further help. ^.^


Also, my isp subscription is 15Mb/s though when using their test I get a result of around 7Mb/s down and 1.6 up. 7Mb/s is definitely tolerable, but I'm just wondering if my current hardware could affect it.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:06 pm

Seeing as I will have a new netbook within the next few days, I just remembered that I don't have a Wi-Fi enabled router.
My current network setup is a Belkin F5D5231-4 router that connects to an Ambit U10C018 cable modem. I have had no input on the hardware until now. In my house, there are four desktops and two consoles. One of the consoles can and will connect wireless-ly and the other is very rarely in use. Along with that, the fourth desktop goes weeks without usage, so a four-port should still suffice. Basically, I need a router that can offer a decent wi-fi connection through out a single-story house, connect four devices via ethernet and two wireless-ly, and work well with my current cable modem.

This is one that I just quickly found while browsing newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124412 (Put the wrong link at first. XD)
Not sure if that would be perfect for my needs or not, but just throwing out a start. I'd really appreciate further help. ^.^


Also, my isp subscription is 15Mb/s though when using their test I get a result of around 7Mb/s down and 1.6 up. 7Mb/s is definitely tolerable, but I'm just wondering if my current hardware could affect it.

With few exceptions, any router can work with any modem.

I'd get a router http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices. DD-WRT can add a lot of nice features. Some new routers market open firmware compatibility as a selling point (and, at least to me, it is). I've been hearing great things about this bad boy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320038 Wireless N, Gigabit LAN, strong support for both DD-WRT and Tomato, and USB 2.0. Really, the only thing you could legitimately ask more for is 450 MBit on Wifi and dual-band (neither of which really matter to you -- with one or two wireless devices only, even if both are operating on LAN services they still can't even theoretically max out your throughput, and if they are operating on the Internet there isn't a chance in hell).

Also, if you already have the ethernet running to these computers and consoles then you already have the hardest work done. Just get a switch to extend your router's ports. The only advantage for Wifi is you don't have to run cables -- if that has already been done, then you're just kicking yourself if you use Wifi.

Edit: Also, I'd avoid anything with internal antenna. There are things you can do to your wifi router to direct/boost the signal when there are external antenna, but not internal ones (at least not easily/simply)

And as to your question about your download speed: A lot of things can slow down your traffic. Depending on how the ISP operates in your area, other local users can slow down your connection if using a lot of bandwidth. It's also possible some other device was using the Internet at the time of your test: ISPs provide your house with a set limit, which then gets split between your devices on-demand by your router. Run the test again at night when no one else is online and see if it improves.

Edit2: BTW: 2/4 reviews say the recertification on that netbook isn't good.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:48 pm

With few exceptions, any router can work with any modem.

I'd get a router http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices. DD-WRT can add a lot of nice features. Some new routers market open firmware compatibility as a selling point (and, at least to me, it is). I've been hearing great things about this bad boy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320038 Wireless N, Gigabit LAN, strong support for both DD-WRT and Tomato, and USB 2.0. Really, the only thing you could legitimately ask more for is 450 MBit on Wifi and dual-band (neither of which really matter to you -- with one or two wireless devices only, even if both are operating on LAN services they still can't even theoretically max out your throughput, and if they are operating on the Internet there isn't a chance in hell).

Also, if you already have the ethernet running to these computers and consoles then you already have the hardest work done. Just get a switch to extend your router's ports. The only advantage for Wifi is you don't have to run cables -- if that has already been done, then you're just kicking yourself if you use Wifi.

Edit: Also, I'd avoid anything with internal antenna. There are things you can do to your wifi router to direct/boost the signal when there are external antenna, but not internal ones (at least not easily/simply)

And as to your question about your download speed: A lot of things can slow down your traffic. Depending on how the ISP operates in your area, other local users can slow down your connection if using a lot of bandwidth. It's also possible some other device was using the Internet at the time of your test: ISPs provide your house with a set limit, which then gets split between your devices on-demand by your router. Run the test again at night when no one else is online and see if it improves.

Edit2: BTW: 2/4 reviews say the recertification on that netbook isn't good.


I sincerely thank you. ^.^ I didn't notice the lack of antennae on the one that I linked, but I was going to wait for second opinions anyway. Reasons for wifi would include the netbook for moving around and the second console is in a room that is separated by a glass sliding door, so we'd be eliminating running another cable under the house. Also, I think I might be able to try to purchase the asus you linked. It looks like it can support anything that I need currently and later down the road.

About the netbook, it's already been purchased. If something horrid happens, I'll try to contact Newegg or something. Hoping for the best. Haha.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:57 pm

I sincerely thank you. ^.^ I didn't notice the lack of antennae on the one that I linked, but I was going to wait for second opinions anyway. Reasons for wifi would include the netbook for moving around and the second console is in a room that is separated by a glass sliding door, so we'd be eliminating running another cable under the house. Also, I think I might be able to try to purchase the asus you linked. It looks like it can support anything that I need currently and later down the road.

Obviously I'd expect you to use wireless with the netbook :P I was just uncertain whether you already had cables ran to the consoles or not (no point regressing if you did, but you don't)

You may be able to shave a bit off the cost of that looking around, I dunno what else is on the market. Just look for a gigabit LAN with at least 300 Mbit wireless n and preferrably good open firmware support.

About the netbook, it's already been purchased. If something horrid happens, I'll try to contact Newegg or something. Hoping for the best. Haha.

I wish you luck.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:51 pm

I'm hoping that I have enough cash for the 95USD ASUS listed above, but does anyone know of a model that can give about what I need and maybe slightly more for a bit less? If not, I'll just try to purchase it.
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I'm hoping that I have enough cash for the 95USD ASUS listed above, but does anyone know of a model that can give about what I need and maybe slightly more for a bit less? If not, I'll just try to purchase it.

If you're just using the internet and not networking you don't need anything more expensive than a 802.11b/g 54mbps router.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:23 pm

So I have been working a lot on my network lately. I have a primary Linksys E3000 for downstairs and I moved my desktop/home server upstairs. My wireless NIC in there was not getting a very good signal. So Saturday I decided to bring out my old Linksys E2000 router and flash DD-WRT on there and use it as a repeater-bridge. Works fine, gives my entire second floor good internet speeds. Though I have a slight annoyance now, when I move my laptop from upstairs to downstairs, it is still connected to the Linksys E2000 repeater-bridge, and its slow since its not on the same floor. Is there a way for the NIC to automatically detect which network its closer to and choose to connect to that one? Or will I have to do it manually? I am running Windows 7 Professional x64 with a Ralink wireless NIC.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:30 pm

Hello again guys

My grandparents computer recently kicked the bucket (after well i don't even know how old it is anymore) and they would like to replace it with a Laptop.

I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for a decent laptop.

Budget is $500 Canadian (less is fine :P)

All they are going to be using it for is word processing, printing (they have a printer), looking at pictures, checking their email. Nothing terribly demanding.

They did decide for sure though they want a full laptop and not a notebook. It would have to come with everything needed (so OS I guess...)

I'm not terribly familiar with laptops as I never bought one or really did anything with one.

Thanks again.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:34 am

If you're just using the internet and not networking you don't need anything more expensive than a 802.11b/g 54mbps router.

Something like this? ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833162134&cm_re=802.11b%2fg_54mbps-_-33-162-134-_-Product )
What exactly would the 246 less mbps affect? Could I still possibly transfer media files between desktop and netbook? Tolerable speeds, that is. Like anime and such.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:17 am

I'm hoping that I have enough cash for the 95USD ASUS listed above, but does anyone know of a model that can give about what I need and maybe slightly more for a bit less? If not, I'll just try to purchase it.

It has a rebate, in case you didn't notice. So after the $10 card, it's $85

If you're just using the internet and not networking you don't need anything more expensive than a 802.11b/g 54mbps router.

I'd have to disagree with that. You don't need to do upgrades to your network often, but you shouldn't skimp on it when you do. Most PCs have gigabit network adapters now, and wireless n is going to become much more prevalent in the future. I personally will be picking up one of those Asus routers as soon as dual-band is added.

Something like this? ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833162134&cm_re=802.11b%2fg_54mbps-_-33-162-134-_-Product )
What exactly would the 246 less mbps affect? Could I still possibly transfer media files between desktop and netbook? Tolerable speeds, that is. Like anime and such.

$60 for 802.11 g and 100 Mbit LAN seems quite expensive. You'd also definitely have to flash that thing ASAP as it doesn't support WPA2 out of the box.

54 Mbit/s is absolutely horribly slow for network file transfers. First of all, that 54 Mbit/s is theoretical, you won't ever see it on the best of days. 30 Mbit/s is realistically the best you can see, and some people have Internet connections faster than that.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:10 am

It has a rebate, in case you didn't notice. So after the $10 card, it's $85


I'd have to disagree with that. You don't need to do upgrades to your network often, but you shouldn't skimp on it when you do. Most PCs have gigabit network adapters now, and wireless n is going to become much more prevalent in the future. I personally will be picking up one of those Asus routers as soon as dual-band is added.


$60 for 802.11 g and 100 Mbit LAN seems quite expensive. You'd also definitely have to flash that thing ASAP as it doesn't support WPA2 out of the box.

54 Mbit/s is absolutely horribly slow for network file transfers.

That's what I was thinking about. I wasn't necessarily wanting to go -too- cheap on network hardware considering it's rarely changed. Considering I'd -really- like to be able to transfer media from my desktop to my netbook for when I'm out and such, I think I'll try and stick to the Asus gigabit 300mbps. Haha, thank you for enforcing my decision. ^.^
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:42 pm

That's what I was thinking about. I wasn't necessarily wanting to go -too- cheap on network hardware considering it's rarely changed. Considering I'd -really- like to be able to transfer media from my desktop to my netbook for when I'm out and such, I think I'll try and stick to the Asus gigabit 300mbps. Haha, thank you for enforcing my decision. ^.^

Considering that netbook supports wireless n (it does), it's definitely a good choice to get wireless n

Just one thing you should note: If you connect anything to your network that doesn't support wireless n, you're speed for ALL devices will slow down to wireless g speeds (54 mbit/s). This is because that asus doesn't support dual-band. It doesn't matter if all you plan on connecting is that netbook like you said, but something to consider (say you get an older smartphone that only support g, it'll then slow down your network to g speeds)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:17 pm

Considering that netbook supports wireless n (it does), it's definitely a good choice to get wireless n

Just one thing you should note: If you connect anything to your network that doesn't support wireless n, you're speed for ALL devices will slow down to wireless g speeds (54 mbit/s). This is because that asus doesn't support dual-band. It doesn't matter if all you plan on connecting is that netbook like you said, but something to consider (say you get an older smartphone that only support g, it'll then slow down your network to g speeds)

Are you positive if the 360 supports wireless n or not?

EDIT: This is an ASUS dual-band router. ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320062&nm_mc=OTC-C173T&cm_mmc=OTC-C173T-_-Network+-+Wireless+Routers-_-ASUS-_-33320062 ) No antennae, but you just said you would get one had they dual-band. Haha.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:43 pm

Are you positive if the 360 supports wireless n or not?

If it's the 360S (the new black one) it has wireless N. If it's the old white 360, it doesn't even have a wireless adapter, and the wireless adapter for it costs $100 (*cough* ripoff *cough*) and it doesn't support wireless n

EDIT: This is an ASUS dual-band router. ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320062&nm_mc=OTC-C173T&cm_mmc=OTC-C173T-_-Network+-+Wireless+Routers-_-ASUS-_-33320062 ) No antennae, but you just said you would get one had they dual-band. Haha.

No external antenna and isn't on DD-WRT's supported router database = not gonna be bought by me. Wireless isn't much of an issue for me since almost all my devices are wired, and I actually have two WAPs (I'm on my own network separate from the rest of the house -- 192.168.0.X whereas the rest of the house is 192.168.1.X). My reason for wanting dual-band is for future safeguards rather than an actual need.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:19 am

If it's the 360S (the new black one) it has wireless N. If it's the old white 360, it doesn't even have a wireless adapter, and the wireless adapter for it costs $100 (*cough* ripoff *cough*) and it doesn't support wireless n


No external antenna and isn't on DD-WRT's supported router database = not gonna be bought by me.

XD I wouldn't buy the 100USD adapter, even for convenience. It's the 360S. That just means I'm completely ready for the network upgrade to wireless n, along with all of the other things the router supports. sw00t. I thank you for assisting me in my decision even more so I know exactly what to expect. :D
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