Be careful there are possible spoilers.... Look away if you haven`t done the Companion quest yet.



I notice in the Companion quest that if you choose not to be a Lycnathrope then nothing else happens. I thought when I refused maybe they`d get angry that I said no to their `wonderful` offer or maybe I could go to their boss and spill the beans, but nothing. There are no options.

The quest line just stops with the guy and his lycanthropic friend just standing in their cave forever. I mean they are doing something behind their leader`s back, but they don`t react logically to the fact I don`t want to and might even tell their boss.

This has to be one of the worse cases of a no option with no consequences quest i`ve seen in skyrim. Why is it even in the game?

Crappy Bethesda.

That and the fact if you do go Lycan you are forced into 3rd person, which I won`t do.

Crappy, crappy crap crap!

The lycan stuff isnt behind thier leader's back, he is one.

they make that clear multiple times

I agree. That is all.

No, but he is trying to cure it where they don`t want it cured so they`re making it worse behind his back. Don`t you listen to what the guy said?

HE wants to be cured, he doesnt care about everyone elses CHOISE.

Didn't you listen?

He doesnt care the companions Leadr's are lycans
he doesnt care if you want to be a Lycan
He doesnt care that they DONT want to not be Lycans

He wants to be cured becuase its his will and he respect thier desire to be Lycans.

He never siad that.

Are making up crap as you go along?

Actually he did

He states it several times in the questline, though it may be after you become a Lycan

Ahem.

I agree that this sort of thing needed another option.

Basically, Aela and the others saying to you, "Okay, you can join the Circle if you help us go kill some werewolf hunters."

*cut scene to the next mission*

It's an easy fix.

You just don't get the "Werewolf" perk.

Is this argument nessecary?

Not really since all the companions leaders have been Lycans for generations

It wouldnt make sense with thier history if they just randomly let a non-lycan into the circle.

I think an option to pursue the Silver Hand without becoming a werewolf would have been nice. I don't see any particular reason you couldn't argee to support them without becoming one of them.

(I also think a few more quests before being invited would have been nice. I get one solid quest under my belt, go clear out a beastie, and then they're all over initiating me into the Circle?)

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In Kodlak's journal, he says that he knows Skjor and Aela want to be lycans and that's okay but he wants to be cured. There are those who are happy running with Hircine in his hunting grounds but Kodlak wants to go to Sovengarde(sp).

It assumes that in this write-up that the circle is totally werewolves. In this universe, Athis could be a Circle member whose not a werewolf.

It's one of those, "alter story and background for better game integration."

I wanted to know more about the Silver Hand too.

I think they needed a in-game book or two.

I think most questlines in this game are uncomplete. The College of Winterhold, the Companios etc. I think it's because I'm used to the tiering system of Oblivion. In the Thieve's Guild, you get small jobs from Doyens, and then the Gray Fox. In the Dark Brotherhood, you start in a Sanctuary, then move up to dead drops from the Speaker. In the Mages' guild, you go from guild work to University work etc. I thought there'd be some more to the guilds in Skyrim.

Yea, the speed with which you get initiated into the Circle makes my head spin.

I think it was intigrated into the game just fine, no one is forcing you to do The companions questline.

There should be more quests to get into the circle but the forced werewolf thing is a good twist.

Also at the end you can cure yourelf, its part of the questline.

There are entire chunks of plot and character interaction development missing from the Companions quest line. It's been commented on much here. Two quests and you're in the inner circle...it's as if they cut it down to the bones and went too far.

I don't think so.

Remember, you find out they're werewolves the previous mission.

I assume that initiating you is sort of a reward for your silence. This way, they can trust you.

Yeah and in many real life groups you usually have to do things you might not agree to to get up in the ranks.

Also if anyone could get away with it getting leaked someone is a Lycan it would be them

No, he's right. In Kodlak's journal, he says Aela and Skjor enjoy being werewolves and even suggest the Hunting Grounds as an afterlife. When he wants to cure himself, the player can say "But I do not wish to be cured." or something along those lines, and he will say "It is not about what you want, lad(or lass)".

He just wants himself to be cured, he could care less if someone accepts Lycanthropy as a gift.

Huh, I've done this quest several times. Kodlak never mentions you, the player, getting the cure that I know of. There are two choices, to help him or not to help him.

He (the player I meant) does say that, just did the quest last night...

Kodlak doesn't - the player does. Stating you don't wish to be cured is one of the dialogue options when Kodlak sends you after the witches.

I tend to agree with the OP.

My current character is a warrior, who you'd think would like to progress in the Companions, since there is no Fighters Guild.

But there is no way he wants to be become a warewolf.

And clearly Skjor says their leader Kodlak wants to stop the practice of warewolf-ism. Seems like you should be able to help Kodlak without becoming a warewolf.

Precisely, but you still do it because it's Kodlak's wishes to be cured. He won't mind if you keep it, he respects it. I mean, look at Aela. She's bloodthirsty and enjoys the blood of the werewolf. He is more eager to see himself cured than anyone else. After all, there is no "leadership" in the companions. Each to his own. And each has his own understanding of honor. He is a nord and wants to go to Sovngarde, Skjor and Aela don't. The twins where undecided until the end of the questline.