They went to far. This series continues to get stripped and gutted and has been declining since Morrowind. Skyrim is empty, lifeless, void.

What happened to spears? Levitation? Crossbows? 3 attributes are you kidding me? Spellmaking? Open lock spells? Longer questlines? More factions? Skills keep dwindling. Fixed jump height now? Why? The list sadly goes on. I'm sad and disgusted equally.

Yes but the Graphics are better {Sarcasim}.

Overall I am happy with the way the Series is going, each game has its differences, some good, some not so good, but overall still my no1 series of RPG games.

Quite simply because games with depth are not easily picked up by new players, and god forbit a bit of depth from stopping Bethesda from lining their pockets. Either that, or they think we're all just stupid.

You'd think you were listening to someone weeping the ruins of a bombed-out village...

Well... considering that Crossbows, Levitation, Spears, Medium Armor, and more factions were all removed in Oblivion I don't think you could blame Skyrim for their removal. Attributes and Skills were pretty much condensed into perks as health, mana, and stamina were raised from attributes but weren't attributes themselves. Open lock spells are really useless as picking locks is pretty easy, and questlines feel shorter because travel is much easier now.



Yes because competitive multiplayer games (such as CoD, BF3, StarCraft, and whatever fighting game) aren't deep? I'd argue that any competitive multiplayer game in this day and age has much more depth than your standard RPG due to the metagame involved in each.




I didn't know skills and attributes made a game an "RPG". This is as bad as people complaining that Minecraft was turning into an RPG because Notch added leveling, enchantments, and potions.

Then dont play the game. Move on and never buy another Bethesda game again.

Seriously, why do people feel the undieing need to [censored] about games like this. Your money speaks louder then words. Take your business elsewhere.

100% agree--move on and quit trolling!

Because they are long time fans of the series and really care about it. Only, they feel that this time they've been betrayed or some similar feeling. Maybe? And with the successful attempt at appealing to the masses, a few old timers being lost won't be noticed.

I agreee that TES continues to get watered down more and more with each new game (I refuse to use the term dumbed down because that implies something other than my feelings on TES), however, I have a feeling that this thread won't end well, and will only wind up being nothing more than a griping session to air out all our complaints about the game.

I'll list a few things I have enjoyed about the game.

1) The art direction and variey between the dungeons is a definite improvement over Oblivion.
2) the over the top level scaling in Oblivion is not nearly as prevelent now.
3) The alchemy system, while annoying at first, has now grown on me and now like it better than before.
3) Enchanting. What else needs to be said.
3)Smithing, however, I am not crazy about the removal of weapons and armor degradation. IMO a better method would be to still have weapons and armor degrade, but at a slower pace, but tie it to the smithing skill. (Not really sure about the feasability of this, but damn it sounded good in my head).

People don't want to give up on a series they loved. They see it taking a turn they don't like and voice their opinion in the hopes that devs will take notice because(and get this) it's the only way the devs will ever possibly know about it.

yes, this is a simplistic game that i find makes me mad.

when i found morrowind, i was in heaven.

oblivion, fallout3 (wow) and vegas were great.

Fus-Ro-Dah!!

Okay but this is a problem with society more so than Skyrim. This theme of evolution and advancement has been played over since the industrial revolution (where technology really started to advance more quickly). This to me has that old man syndrome to it and really is a matter of not being open minded.

You know, 3 months ago when the game just came out this might still have been relevant. In the meantime it's been 3 months, 4 updates, a CK and an HD texture pack later and all of a sudden you feel the compelling need to bear your soul to the general public regarding the emptiness of Skyrim? I'm not surprised at your message (many feel as you do) but I am surprised at your timing.

In other words stop complaining about criticism. As long as it isn't directed at you, it is encouraged so long as it remains constructive.

Oh noes! No spears! A travesty! Call the U.N. and get a commission going!

no attributes is pathetic (so we can directly manipulate magic/stamina/health, those are derived stats not attributes), lack of spell effects is a real pain in the ass along with the lakc of ways to cast spells (i could heal up my entire group and heal them and rally them all at once, with one spell, not anymore), set jumping/speed is annoying (those are the core of some of the most fun classes), the scale of the game is puny (not level scale, but the ammount of people/objects/ect is just patheticly small), less armour slots (this would not be such a problem if they gave us the extra NPCs they said they would), NPcs' liines are pathetic (not ot mention they enver speak to each other and always give the exact same lines to the player every time you get withing 100 yards)

still a good game though

Yeah, constructive being the key word. Shall I pass the dictionary?

Skyrim isnt Morrowind, and thank the gods for that. Why would you want to play the same game twice? Because thats the only thing I'm hearing.

Exactly, kriogenics ftw?

And his suggestion is to return the missing features.

No, his suggestion is to basicly remake Morrowind.

Read my post again

MY no1, not THE no1

lol Heck even Dungeons and Dragons is becoming more casual. I'm a role player, but I'm a also a gamer, and Skyrim is a great game. Don't worry someone will come out with a game far better than morrowind and looks better than skyrim, and then Bethesda will have to deal with that.

Don't confuse things that were done in morrowind with morrowind. Why are you arguing against the return of spears, levitation, unlock spells, actual lengthy questlines, spellmaking, and etc?

If you think the stats part is a good change then say so, but I don't understand the argument that you should have LESS options.