O_o why is it cowardly to desire extended life? Even immortality?

While it's true we often get the stories of those who attempt to escape death through fear that doesn't appear to be why House did what he did, nor is it always the case. Many people would like an extended life, I would. I quite enjoy life, it's fun, I would like to live to 200 and see how we progress. Idle curiosity as much as anything else.

Indeed by your logic we will all be cowards soon, not long ago the average age was about 35, long ago it was far younger. We now live to be 100 with some regularity, through technology and medicine, shouldn't we all refuse to use this technology? Refuse any medication since we are being cowardly and extending our lives, 'cheating death'?
Come now, House used the resources available to him, nothing more, nothing less.

@ Sungrey you miss the point, firstly the BoS are a huge threat to House's and the Strips' security. Secondly, he isn't trying to become dictator of the entire area, he desires continued rule over Vegas, he doesn't care about Goodsprings, he doesn't want much to do with them. He cares about the Strip and about technological progression, indeed the only reason he cares for the Strip is it's income will be used to fuel technological and societal progression. He desires an empire of intellect, not of power like Caesar or simple size like the NCR.

House epitomises the scientist. Legion epitomises the barbarian, the NCR....well they epitomise the taxman. Each has their own goals and desires, House's have nothing to do with conquest.

Besides all of that, benevolent dictatorship is the best form of government in theory, if House was essentially immortal it would be almost applicable. As it is he would eventually die and though I doubt his corruption plausible (his drive and beliefs lie in the wrong place, by virtue of his single mindedness he is incorruptible) it is a possibility, I cannot predict the future, even of an imaginary world.
Irrespectively, do not dismiss a person because they would become a dictator, I despise this reasoning, it cries of brainwashing by the powers that be, this horrific belief that democracy is the only true way to go and only democracy is good because democracy is awesome and everything else, especially commie scum and dictators are terrible, nasty people who would, at the drop of a hat, run around causing chaos and murdering people. Please, think for yourself, forgo this instilled belief and consider the merits of a man by the man, not by what people have told you he will be.

Well, I'm a member of the Dustmen.

Well in that case you morbidly depressing soul I suppose it is

I felt bad until the I read the end. His hubris is ultimately what gets him killed and is his deadly sin that gets him killed.

If you ask me house wasn't that great. Because if you look at the house and yes man endings, what has happened other than I,Robot with a really bad ending haha!

Mr House dies in all of my games except for one, he's just a giant parasite who lives off other peoples money. My only regret was I wish I could have told him what I thought of him.

The one game he didn't die in was a character of 3 intelligence who didn't mind being told what to do and thought Mr House new best.

There you go: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/A_Tragedy_Has_Befallen_All_Mankind

Just read the transcript and holy crap... How biased is this suppose to be?
Not only is NCR having the whole game to play around with but after killing House we're given a note to feel bad for ourselves like we did the wrong thing by killing him.
Why was this note even in the game?

Well you don't actually feel bad once you've read the last paragraph.

Oh I don't feel bad, should've written it differently; "...but after killing House we're given a note that's trying to make us feel bad for ourselves like we did the wrong thing by killing him."
Still, I don't remember being given a note from Caesar, Kimball or Crocker after killing them.
Just don't understand why we're given a note after killing House, it just "feels" biased IMO somehow.

The note bothered me until I realized House himself wrote it, at which point I stopped caring.

There's no reason to feel bad, the note is supposed to be extremely self-serving; no reason to take anything in it at face value.

Given how House was, in many ways, the heart of New Vegas, him having a note really does make sense to me.

Caesar is the same way. He should die with his cancer, but he makes you go out to remove it. :spotted owl:

Caesar and House are both no different in that respects. Two humans seeking to extend longevity by use of Medical Technology. To say 'escaping death is cowardice' is such a childish and ludite thing to say. Medicine in history has always been about extending the longevity of humanity. House just found a way to extend his longevity longer, that doesnt make him some machine god lych-monster like the Calculator or Proffesor Calvert.

That post was meant to be a joke which sadly failed to get through. :sadvaultboy:

Sorry Gabe. You know I'm just as defensive of House as you are of the Legion :laugh:

Also. I hate arguing with you, you're one of the few people who I can verbally duel with before I have to give up. Damn you're well established points. :verymad:

WOW!! I too have never read that note, mainly because I'm not far enough into the MQ to make any type of decision on who I'm siding with let alone kill.

But, having said that (typed) and having read House's note I can honestly say, he will now be disconnected from the mainframe and slowly killed by me.

I can haz good debating skills? :]

The solution to getting guilt tripped by House's obituary is to read it all the way to its end. Then you are reminded how much of an overinflated egotistical megalomaniac that House was and get on with your chosen major faction's tasks.

It sez...

This!!!

And he killed off the kings in the ending. Why kill off the most harmless and nicest faction in the wastes?

I just wish that, after I've disconnected him, I could invite the BOS to the lucky 38, and turn it into our new HQ (and with the help of the locals, hopefully, turn the Mojave Chapter into something more like the MWBOS). There's nothing noteworthy on the rest of the Strip, so there's no need to bother them, we just march on the Lucky 38, hearing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oxYJiVNzfc in the background and destroying any securitrons along the way. We could use Mr House to play a nice game of watch the idiot dictator who asked a Paladin to destroy the BOS and hear him scoff at you.

The Kings aren't saints. Depending on your actions they may support a military force that has plans to assassinate Mr. House as soon as they get the chance.

That would be epic...especially if you could engineer a NCR-BOS alliance first so the NCR troops on the Strip can do nothing but watch as you and the Brothers roll up on the Lucky 38 and take it over. With House and Yes-Man out of the Lucky 38 mainframe the Securitrons can be repurposed, as well.




House has no-one to blame for who the Kings make deals with but himself. He could have secured thier loyalty for a pittance....a mistake that Hsu and Crocker don't make if they get the chance.

Our typical west coast BoS supporters exhibit clear signs of sadism, enjoying the prospect of torturing a man who placed trust in them and further betraying a separate group of people for 'kicks'. They also tend to be obsessed with anything big and shiny and some leading psychologists think this stems from the need to compensate.


Seriously though, that is a little sick. You want to torture someone for laughs? Nice.
Hamnade man nails the problem from House's view. He dislikes the NCR (for good reason, since they want to kill him and take his home) and if you reconcile the Kings and NCR he sees it as them supporting the NCR. Of his decisions this is the one I most disagree with (though, since I found out about it, it doesn't come to pass). The Kings exhibit clear dislike of the NCR throughout, getting both sides to stand down is a cease fire, not a treaty of peace. I was surprised the devs made House want to exterminate them, though it sticks with his no nonsense policy it's still a bit of a stretch for a CEO like him, who would more likely be looking to use the Kings against the NCR, killing them only if they refused.


I always laughed at the ending to House's obituary, let's face it, it's a miracle anymore than 1 or 2% of the population is literate, much less all of it. I always wonder where the schools are. Arcade and the Enclave I get, they'd have had provisions for it. BoS ok, maybe. FotA? NCR? Over time they could, possibly, build up an education system of some form but it seems apparent that this isn't so.
The only place we see one is with the Boomers, who have succeeded in spawning a good number of kids and despite their obvious obsessions are shown to be quite knowledgeable, perhaps because of the vault. Not to defend his arrogance, which is evident, just to point out, he may be onto something with the literacy comment...

His little obit makes for some good, fun reading while I'm sitting at the campfire picking my teeth with his bones.

Well technically he was riding the high of his victory in hover dam and decided to roll into freeside and clean house. The Kings put up so house shut them up.

Thank god I'm with the MWBOS, and not the WCBOS. Plus I didn't torture him, I just humiliated him, but that's what you get when you ask a Paladin (in game it is possible to become a BOS Paladin before entering the Lucky 38) to destroy the BOS. I guess that wasn't very smart. Since he told me about his plan, that makes it a preemptive strike and according to the House fans that's A-OK.

It wouldn't just be for our kicks either, we'd also invite Freeside and the entire Strip to join in on our game. We could make him part of the tour, allowing him to make money (that's what House would have wanted anyway, except maybe the small detail regarding it ending up in BOS wallets). We should also record all his scoffing, so that after he dies, we can conserve his body and keep the tour alive.



How can you do that, I mean, he just doesn't look tasty. Did you tenderize the meat with a super sledge or did you turn him into something more like jerky?



Maybe it should be used as DLC content.