I think that my topic description explains it well enough.

For those of you who have been following fallout for much longer then I have what are the benefits of Obsidian developing the game?

Is it true that a lot of hardcoe fans feel that Bethesda ruined fallout with fallout 3?

I have played the originals and I couldn't stand them compared to fallout 3.

The PS3 version will be MUCH better.

Obsidian has developers of the originals, so this will feel more like Fallout than Fallout 3.

If I liked fallout 3 but didn't like the game play mechanics of the original when I played them do you think that will likely mean I won't like this fallout?

One of my favorite things about the originals is the humor but I heard they are keeping most of the mechanics of fallout 3 for new vegas, how different do you think it will really be?

It should have better dialogue and choices and consequences.

Fallout 3 was a step in the right direction after the abysmal quest and dialogue setup of Oblivion. Obsidian can only improve on it further, especially since they have much more experience in that respect than Bethesda does.

I don't know if this is what you want to know, but I'll take a shot.

Obsidian tends to have better writing in their games, better developed characters, and better storyline than Bethesda. I'm pretty sure that the "old game fans" like Obsidian because it has a lot of Fallout people like Feargus Urquhart, Chris Avellone, J.E. Sawyer, so they feel like it'll be truer to the old games. That's pretty much it.

And the reason you couldn't stand the originals is because you're used to today's games. Same reason I can't stand DOS.

haha you can't stand DOS haha

I use DOS commands at my job

I live in a black box

Well obsidian has a better understanding of the lore and cannon, but really, they are combining the two, Beth's engine and gameplay matched with Obsidian's storymaking abilities will be very good.

Does there even need to be benefits? As long as the game gets made, I could honestly care less what company puts their stamp on it.

If they made fallout new Vegas :rofl: for the wii everything would have to be made like stick figures haha.


it would be so blocky it wouldn't be discernible

I think the differences between the companies are really the differences between the People and the Philosophy they work by.

One big thing I think will be cool is that, in this case at least, Obsidian will benefit from the experience that Bethesda gained in it's 5+ years of working with the Fo3 engine, and how to optimize a gaming environment using it.

I don't think it is useful to say one is better than the other, they are like different flavors of Ice Cream - both good in their own ways.

Miax

Nah, if it was done for the Wii, it would have been down in that top down nonsense, since you can actually do point and click measures with a Wii, but that might be a stretch. But that's just me speculating.

Sounds like a kickass idea, actually. But I'd rather have a top-down perspective in a PC version.

Nope, Beth did not ruin Fallout, they revived it with an own interpretation of the stuff. (Basicly the management of Interplay managed to ruin Fallout hardly) So my suggestion is to be not concerned about the joint venture of Bethesda and Obsidioan. It's a great chance for both, so to speak for the "hardcoe fans" of FO1+FO2 and as well as for the "newer fans" of FO3. My only concern is that they don't please the FO1 fans in all its expectations. Yes there has been a little clash even between fans of the original Fallout and the fans of FO2, which was partially too goofy and there was a disappointing loss of apocalypse regarding the atmosphere. I recently found this graphic which explains it pretty well.
http://duckandcover.cx/falloutevolutionsmall.png

Nah, it'd be the same except you'd have to shake the Wiimote to block. Ugh.


Except they didn't "revive" it. They just won the bidding. :shrug:

wow that graphic made my day THANK YOU

its actually pretty hilarious and a nice 2 sided perspective..


including the dumb fan who is usually the third opinion haha

OP, I really tried hard to be considerate in my post- really. I can see you don't appreciate it at all. =/

Anyhow, I prefer it to be made by Obsidian. Why? The exploration aspect is really THE strength Bethesda has in every one of their games. If you combine this with decent writing, you can have a better game. I highly doubt the formula's going to differ much from Fallout 3's, and as such, I don't expect that there will be more than just a few better things. But if you combine a good storyline and setting with mods, you can get yourself a pretty decent game. It'll still disappoint if you're looking for RPG mechanics, but it'll be good for what it is, and that's what I want.

Edit: That graphic forgot the people who said Fallout 3 svcks and shouldn't call itself an RPG, much less a Fallout game. These were generally hardcoe RPG fans who couldn't understand that Bethesda made a change of genre.

You know I guess I got a bit excited when i fount out the original devs were going at it with the new game, but at the same time I never really played the old ones that much, like I said i couldn't get into them.

I guess i just kind of trusted everyones word that obsidian developing was good news, hop on the bandwagon.

Yeah, I pretty much fall into "green" on that timeline.

And the yellow quotes provide a great caricature of the type of gamer who is, sadly, becoming the norm as the industry continue to grow.

If you like the overall first-person, open-world setup, but thought that the characters, setting, and plot of Fallout 3 and Oblivion were pretty bland and milquetoast-y then it's probably very good news. I personally didn't mind the Fallout 3 engine (although I thought the RPG mechanics were contrived and shallow), but I don't think Bethesda has done a good job with characters, stories, and settings since Morrowind. I'm looking forward to see what Obsidian does in that area.

They have better writers. That's a huge plus. I like them more than gamesas because of that.

I'll concede that Beth sometimes drops the ball when it comes to writing...
The Oblivion Fighters Guild storyline comes to mind...I to this day have no idea what kind of story they were trying to tell me.
Morrowind, though, I thought was their best work in storytelling.

Sorry OP. Unlike the other answers, who seem to be psychics and already know how the game is going to be, I cannot answer your question until I have actually played the game.

Speculating based on track-record isn't a sin, though. :shrug:




Or....is it? :unsure::ninja:

Speculation is still a poor replacement for hands on experience.
To quote the movie Tombstone "People can change, Doc."