Alright people, Bethesda trolled us. I just found out from an anonymous source, that the courier is actually Caesar's trans-gender love child with your mom.

Female, cause I doubt a single previous protagonist has been female in canon.
And she has Cherchez Le Femme.

MOMMY NO :cryvaultboy:

Yes as soon as I posted I realised that the Bishop family was prone to sleeping around and gave myself a :facepalm: .
So far I can't find any other references to the CO being male only.
Though the history of FO1 to FO2 where they made the VD male as establish lore is well known, I just presumed ( admittedly likely to be wrong ) that the same was done here in that Bishop hint.

Anyhow, back to more on topic yes the courier can be anyone you wish.
I just wish they had not used the male outfit at the begining, but given the engine I don't there was anyway to show any part of the body and not have a male or female mesh on it.

What ... you don't like pussie?

I never said that. Didnt you ever hear thats what she said joke?

Nope, you're all figments of my imagination. Everything is an instrument of my will in this private little fantasy world of mine.

I think it's safe to go off of the default facial settings as being the canon Courier. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Fallout allowed someone to choose between a suave talker, a buff fighter and a stealthy woman as their character. Later pictures of the Vault Dweller suggested the suave talker was the canon Dweller. Going off that, yeah, the default look is the actual Courier.

The Lone Wanderer is the generic looking dork, the Courier is the blonde dude.

Lol'd at this

No seriously though. After playing New Vegas, I realize the Lone Wanderer was the most boring protagonist ever. His appearance, his dialog, his story, his alignment. Everything about him.

The Lone Wanderer's appearance basically looks like they just decided that the canon LW should just have short brown hair, because most potential gamers (or most men in general) have short brown hair. After making sure they got the short brown hair, they just said "**** it" and went on their lunch break, leaving his face as generic as possible. The Courier? Dude has detail. He's got the suave hairstyle, he's decent-looking and his face, if you look at it, actually has this blocky-look to it. He definitely looks like someone who could take two bullets to the head because his forehead is huge and looks like a wall from the side angle.

Ok ok, you can choose from one of three dialog options, so there's no set personality for any of them, but can we at least agree that the Courier is capable of saying far more interesting things?
Some old fart tells you "You have to save my grandson!" and the Lone Wanderer just says "You can count on me, sir!" like some weird-ass Boy Scout cyborg that the Enclave built before the Great War to simulate all the stupid happy-go-lucky attitudes of the son from a 1950's American family. With the Courier, some dude is like "You better do as I say or there will be pain and suffering," and the Courier answers with a sarcastic "oh damn, that sounds uncomfortable. I'd wanna avoid that..." While the Lone Wanderer's speech options could always be categorized as the good answer, the neutral answer and the evil answer, the Courier often gets responses ranging from "What's going on" to "wtf was that? Do you always toss grenades at complete strangers?" to "Hmmmm, I think I better go." The Lone Wanderer's speech options were soooo generic; the Courier actually breaks out of the Good-Neutral-Evil scheme and simply offers various possible responses to a situation, not neccesarily ranging based on alignment but based on humor, calmness, anger etc. The most basic lines for the Courier ocassionally match the humor of some of the Lone Wanderer's "evil" or "neutral" speech options. You know, the ones you could NEVER USE because they'd piss off the NPC you were trying to make a deal with? That's another nice feature: the Courier being able to deliver a joke without getting shot for it. The ONLY time the LW consistently got quality responses was by giving sarcastic responses to Moira Brown.

The story of FO3 was like "there are bad menz and you're a good guy because your dad PRAISES JEBUS~~~ so you have to stop the bad peoplez." He's a goody-two-shoes boy scout. And even worse, he's flawless. The only flaw that the Lone Wanderer seems to have is that his luck svcks. Lost his love interest, lost his father, lost his mother, lost his home, lost half his brain, has to fight super mutants next to piles of exploding cars. But really, is bad luck even considered a character flaw? (But I guess you could say his Charisma svcks too, considering HIS DIALOG svckS) And what is his motivation in the game? He's a cry-baby daddy's boy that runs around saying "WAAAAAH WHERE'S MY DADDY." That brings me back to my last point about the LWs dialog, too: the basic dialog for the LW on his search for his dad was sometimes as lame as "Oh please tell me where he is! I miss him SO much!" Dude wtf you've only been away from him for three days. If I acted like that after my dad had been gone three days, I'm pretty sure my dad would disown me entirely, once he was done beating the [censored] out of me.
The story of New Vegas is like "wtf that ass just shot you. C'mon let's go kill that [censored]. Oh and check this out, we can kill this other guy and take over Vegas." How kick ass is that? The Courier is flawed. He's hungry for revenge, he will kill off at least one innocent person, and he may very well take Vegas for himself. (I have a theory as to why Independent Vegas will be canon but I'll save that for another time) The Courier actually has flaws and the events of the game even hint at a couple undeniable personality traits for him, all of which prevent him from being a goody-two-shoes who does everything right and can do no wrong, which is what makes a character interesting in the first place. More importantly, he's not hunting down his daddy as if he can't even walk on two legs without his help.

In short, screw you, Lone Wanderer!

I feel like female player character sort of have the upper hand in this and all fallout games...I don't know what it is...Black Widow perk probabaly :hehe:

But I think the courier is meant to be male, it actually bothers me that you can see the courier's body in the into and that it is the body of a male...can a post-apocalyptic bumpkin doctor change you that much? :cold: weird....and if CL become canon, well...the courier kinda has to be a guy...lol even other members of CL are surprised when my females come walking up to them telling them that Caesar sent her to kill people :frog: The Mojave is obviously a man's world.

As it should.

Go tell a guy to walk into a bar and to tell all the women he sees "I have a big dike," and record what percent of women show interest.
Go tell a woman to walk into a bar and to tell all the men she sees "I'll svck your big dike" and record what percent of men show interest.

Something tells me the latter will get more results.

interesting....



how often did your father hug you as a child? I actually find the LW plight a bit more emotional...yeah somebody tried to kill the courier, but nobody was screwing with the courier's parents! And if my Mommy left and I wasn't able to find her I'd be freaking out too! especially if I was as close as the LW was to his father the entire time...DON'T HATE THE PLAYA CUZ HE LOVES HIS DADDY!

:cryvaultboy:


lol, but you're right, the pc is actually interesting in this game! :celebration:

depends on how drunk they are and how perty your mouth is :homestar:

but I guess guys couldn't be as picky in this post-apocalyptic world...


ever wonder why in Fallout 3 Ronald doesn't just r@pe Sierra in Girdershade? really...I always associate the end of the world with r@pe, pillaging, looting, and senseless killing...and really, they're both all alone, with nobody to hear her scream :whistling:

Oh cmon, the dude is 18! Cut the umbilical cord! It's fine to go hunt for him because he's all you've got in the world of the Wasteland and you're naturally curious, but wtf don't go crying a river to some smelly hippie named Three Dog because you haven't seen your dad in two days. Sissy!

People can roll with the Lone Wanderer all they like and help old ladies cross the street. I'd much rather join the Courier and tell people that the key to getting to the Boomers without getting shot is to run at their base full speed and flail your arms about in the air a lot.

It's a scary wasteland out there...PEOPLE DIE!!! THERE ARE GIANT GREEN THINGS! I wouldn't let a loved one out of my sight for two seconds...and then as soon as you do find this negligent jerk (who obviously wants to get it on with the old doctor chick, but his kid is there cramping his style) he up and dies on you...SEE! SEE WHAT HAPPENS? six MAKES THE PEOPLE GO AWAY!


I lol'd at your second paragraph :spotted owl:

Because Ronald is legit.

I find it horrible that the game dares to call him the "bad karma" option just because he has needs.
See? That's how much of a wussy boy scout the Lone Wanderer is. He dares consider Ronald a bad guy just because he has urges, when the reality is Ronald is restraining himself from taking advantage of a very easy [censored] situation, instead choosing to romance the woman and make her happy before making his move.

INORITE!? And if you woo him like a woman he dies, because he obviously deserved to die....duh, I mean, any man who wants to procreate must be evil bliviongate: wtf? GO FORTH AND MULTIPLY! So screwed up...but maybe it's bad karma because she's so irritating, obviously she's not meant to ever get pregnant because her irritating genes are not meant to be spread to the next generation. A man who would want such an annoyance of a woman must obviously not have the future of the human race at heart.

I play a female now and then but the whole story of New Vegas seems to fit a male protagonist. The only thing that (to me) makes a female character appealing is opposing the Legion.
My Lone Wanderers were almost exclusively female, though. It seemed to fit the character's motivations better. Plus, you know. 3rd person. :hubbahubba:

why do the dev's make the man butts so blocky? :sadvaultboy:

Hell, I think it's fun to play legion as a female...kinda ironic that they think nothing of women, but a woman's face is minted on their currency...I like to think my characters changed the legion's idea of women ever so slightly...really the female ending for the legion should have included something about the courier being integrated into the society and being married off or something...

You want the Courier to be male...because you are male. What.

I'm a girl, but I really want the Courier to be male. I've always played as a male. I did playthrough of NV with a F!Courier, but it wasn't the same.

Maybe I'm just bitter from years of Mary Sue fanfiction. Who knows. EDIT: Actually, now that I think about it, it's probably because I was so into Mass Effect before starting Fallout, and all I ever saw on the forums there was FEMSHEP! FEMSHEP! FEMSHEP!

I do agree that there needs to be a female hero down the line somewhere. Just not the Courier.



Oh, don't act like you wouldn't cry if Liam Neeson had abandoned you too.

more males then females in the pool , seems there are alot of Legion fans here

I love you.



Male charecter would make more sense, As the figure on the cover of the NV game has the build of a male.. but the homo-erotic subplot with him and Boone would get a bit..dubious.

There's more chances for a female courier to get laid

Male charecters look better in the NCR ranger gear.

Female charecters look much better in the sixy sleepwear.



Both sixes have their pros and cons as Couriers.

Well the Legion doesn't exacly alow female Legionaries so I think the Couriers male but that's just me.

She's a he.




Maybe a Malady.