What? No scimitar support?

Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:47 am

My Redguard, who dual-wields scimtars (Ishtar and Inanna), was crushed to discover that not only are there no glass, Daedric, Orcish, Dwarven, and even worse, no ebony scimitars, and that they can't even be smithed.

What's up with this? Is this RACISM? I want to be able to smith scimitars out of everything. Even wood and leather!
You cant upgrade silver weapons either, or smith them, eventhough there is silver ingots :: facepalm ::
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:58 pm

That is a silly excuse.
If they are so similar then Beth could have just added a bunch of meshes for them and it wouldn't have cost them anything.
Every weapon in the game is unique in its design. Most of them are fantasy instead of Practical designs, but the point is that an Orcish Sword is not the same type/style of sword as a Daedric Sword, nor are Glass and Ebony swords the same type. Not even Steel and Iron swords are the same "type" of sword. Why should Scimitars get special treatment? They're merely a different kind of Sword.

In fact, Ebony Swords seem to be similar to the Talwar in design, with a single, curved blade, and point in line with the hilt.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:35 am

Ebony Scimitars.

Ebony. Scimitars.

For some reason now I want to be able to make ivory weapons.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:18 pm

I want cutlasses and whips.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:17 pm

If you just improve a scimitar with the perk and maxed smithing, they are great weapons. You would only be getting a few more points if there was such a thing as a daedric scimitar.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:04 pm

There is also a unique scimitar, if you do the DB quest on

Spoiler
top of the bow of the ship Katariah.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:41 pm

I would like to have more variety in weapons.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:29 pm

short shords -O
broad swords-M
dia katana-M
katana-M
crossbows-M
throwing stars-M
staffs [as a weapon] -M

and thats what i can think of off the top of my head that are missing from the game. the one with O afterwards was in oblvion but not in skyrim, and the ones with an M afterwards was in morrowind but was removed from oblivion.

thats nearly as many weapons types [which have several different material levels such as iron-daedric] that have been removed from the series and not replaced with any thing at all as there are in skyrim. why should any one be thankful for getting half of what they should be getting at the very least.

Akaviri Katana, Akaviri Dai-Katana. Blades Sword.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:34 am

I would like to have more variety in weapons.
Certainly. Skyrim suffers from lack of weaponry in many ways, scimitars being one of them. Another is the Skyforge and Silver weapon varieties, they for some reason omitted some types completely from these categories. I was looking for a silver warhammer and had to settle for a silver greatsword instead for my undead-killing needs. There's also no option to have Eorlund sell or craft Skyforge warhammers or maces, even though his line before then says he can craft you "any weapon type you want". That was really annoying to find out, and apparently there's no Ancient Nord versions of these weapons either.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:35 pm

Certainly. Skyrim suffers from lack of weaponry in many ways, scimitars being one of them. Another is the Skyforge and Silver weapon varieties, they for some reason omitted some types completely from these categories. I was looking for a silver warhammer and had to settle for a silver greatsword instead for my undead-killing needs. There's also no option to have Eorlund sell or craft Skyforge warhammers or maces, even though his line before then says he can craft you "any weapon type you want". That was really annoying to find out, and apparently there's no Ancient Nord versions of these weapons either.

Those type of weapons were only invented, when plate armour was introduced as bladed weapon became less effective. So it makes sense that ancient nord version doesn't exist. You also don't need a warhammer to take out werewolves who are in rags, and as for Skyforge, Eorlund is the best smith and makes his steel blade the sharpest in Skyrim. It doesn't take much skill to make a dull war hammer. I do wish the silver weapons were upgradeable using silver ingots though.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:20 am

Those type of weapons were only invented, when plate armour was introduced as bladed weapon became less effective. So it makes sense that ancient nord version doesn't exist. You also don't need a warhammer to take out werewolves who are in rags, and as for Skyforge, Eorlund is the best smith and makes his steel blade the sharpest in Skyrim. It doesn't take much skill to make a dull war hammer. I do wish the silver weapons were upgradeable using silver ingots though.
There weren't any blunt weapons before plate armor? Did not realize that. A club or a morningstar seems like it would be one of the simplest weapons to produce cheaply.

And actually, silver weapons don't have any special effectiveness against werewolves, but can provide a big bonus against undead. Not sure if this was an oversight on Bethesda's part or if the Silver Hand just doesn't know that werewolves aren't especially affected. And all I know is that Eorlund tells you he can make you any Skyforge weapon you want, then proceeds to show you like 4 options in the dialogue :P, I found it misleading.

Oh well, at least mods do and have fixed this stuff, including allowing silver weapon upgrading/crafting and different scimitars.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:32 am

There weren't any blunt weapons before plate armor? Did not realize that. A club or a morningstar seems like it would be one of the simplest weapons to produce cheaply.

And actually, silver weapons don't have any special effectiveness against werewolves, but can provide a big bonus against undead. Not sure if this was an oversight on Bethesda's part or if the Silver Hand just doesn't know that werewolves aren't especially affected. And all I know is that Eorlund tells you he can make you any Skyforge weapon you want, then proceeds to show you like 4 options in the dialogue :tongue:, I found it misleading.

Oh well, at least mods do and have fixed this stuff, including allowing silver weapon upgrading/crafting and different scimitars.

Have you seen any empire conquer masses of land with a Club in their hands?
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:57 pm

Have you seen any empire conquer masses of land with a Club in their hands?
I personally haven't seen any empires conquering anything :P. Supposedly the Persians used maces in their armies, but the Romans didn't very much. Warhammers and the like were primarily used for armored enemies, but most Dragur armor looks heavy enough to warrant blunt weaponry.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:57 am

I personally haven't seen any empires conquering anything :tongue:. Supposedly the Persians used maces in their armies, but the Romans didn't very much. Warhammers and the like were primarily used for armored enemies, but most Dragur armor looks heavy enough to warrant blunt weaponry.

They have enough flesh exposed make blade weapons effective.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:14 pm

I wouldn't say so.
Here's a scimitar
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41awWJNJIiL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Here's a Falchion
http://withfriendship.com/images/h/39450/9-10.jpg

None of them really resemble those in the game.

No Falchions had a broad blade like the Skyrim Scmitars, but weren't curved like these. So i think too that they mixed them.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:05 pm

Technically, IRL ebony is a wood.

Personally, IRL ebony gets me wood.

If you know what I mean.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:38 pm

Sword categories are always vague, but I think the curved... swords... you see in the game would usually be called a falchion in pnp RPGs. Here is a pic of a French one from the middle ages: http://www.a-work-of-art.net/pages/page06c.jpg
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:50 pm

Personally, IRL ebony gets me wood.

If you know what I mean.
I've heard of tree-huggers, but this is ridiculous


Sword categories are always vague, but I think the curved... swords... you seen in the game would usually be called a falchion in pnp RPGs. Here is a pic of a French one from the middle ages: http://www.a-work-of-art.net/pages/page06c.jpg
I'm pretty sure they are scimitars in-game. That looks like a borderline weapon, the average falchion is something like http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Falchion.jpg.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 1:55 pm

A Falchion is a militarised (sp) meat cleaver. It was designed to hack/chop through armor.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:25 pm

A Falchion is a militarised (sp) meat cleaver. It was designed to hack/chop through armor.

You mean one of these?
http://polarcoordinate.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/bloody-knife2.gif
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:04 am

The question is, if you had to put the kind of sword called a "scimitar" in-game into a real-life category, what would you put it into? The main characteristic is that it has a curve, and it has that thick section opposite the curve. Just from what I know about such stuff, you would call it a falchion rather than a scimitar. This page has some info and a photo: http://suffolkfreecompany.webs.com/swordandbuckler.htm

As that page says, there is a kind of famous one called the Thorpe Falchion, you can put that into google images. It is not as close as the image I posted earlier, but still close enough if you ask me.
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Post » Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:44 pm

The question is, if you had to put the kind of sword called a "scimitar" in-game into a real-life category, what would you put it into? The main characteristic is that it has a curve, and it has that thick section opposite the curve. Just from what I know about such stuff, you would call it a falchion rather than a scimitar. This page has some info and a photo: http://suffolkfreecompany.webs.com/swordandbuckler.htm

As that page says, there is a kind of famous one called the Thorpe Falchion, you can put that into google images. It is not as close as the image I posted earlier, but still close enough if you ask me.

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