I Strongly Disagree with the scaling being better then Skyrim, easily the worst decision made when designing New Vegas. A system like Fallout 3/Skyrim would've been better off then the linear forced monster zones and heck I could sneak north of Goodsprings and find incredible equipment that allows me to pown almost everything for the 1st 1/3 to 1/2 of the game.

Other then that New Vegas did some things better like Better customization of stats at the beginning but Skyrim has a much better open world and is the better game overall. New Vegas's important NPC's are safe from the immortal status because they were not near any combat areas thus no threat to being killed, unlike Skyrim where Dengeir could get killed by a Dragon and that screws up the Civil War line or Esbern could get killed by a Dragon and that screws up the Main Quest, etc.

You realize your first sentence is in complete contradiction of the second, no? It's linear except that you could take a risk a go a dangerous direction for a big reward? Okay, then.

You realize your first sentence is in complete contradiction of the second, no? It's linear except that you could take a risk a go a dangerous direction for a big reward? Okay, then.



Esbern is safe when you find him. There is absolutely no need for immortality. Both leaders of both civil war factions are always safe. All jarls are always safe. There is no need for immortality. It's a cop out and an excuse for horribly linear quests that depend on NPCs as the only way to finish them rather than having alternate routes. That's linear by definition.

I noticed that too. Made me laugh.

- Player Dialogue. New Vegas had great depth in dialogue options for your character. Skyrim has absolutely no variety in what your character can say, crippling countless role playing styles. Speech in NV is a useful skill because it fundamentally shaped how a quest played out. Speech in Skyrim is borderline worthless.

- Handholding. Skyrim treats us like we're kindergarteners. Half of Skyrim's populations is immortal, which is annoying more than anything. Quests are unable to be failed in Skyrim. This is frustrating and lessens any sense of accomplishment from completing difficult challenges. New Vegas has almost no immortal NPCs, and quests feel important because they aren't completable if you don't have the skill.

- Perks and Skills. In Skyrim, skill isn't very powerful. I would estimate 90% of power is from perks, and 10% is from skill level. This effectively cripples skills in and of themselves because they don't help a lot directly. For example, one handed skill 30 and a perk is equal in power to 100 skill in one handed and no perks. New Vegas has the power at about a 50/50 split, meaning both skills and perks have power without either becoming worthless if you don't focus on both of them. Perks are just plain better in New Vegas too.

- Reputation System. Skyrim doesn't have one, either viewable in a menu or behind the scenes. Stormcloaks treat you virtually identical whether you are a Legate or a Stormcloak General. Same with the Empire. New Vegas had factions that would change how they treated you based on your interactions with them. This caused choices you made to have impact, and made the game world feel more alive. It also helped role playing, because it made your alliances relevant to the character you were trying to role play as.

I'm sick of folks saying that NV is linear because there are tough enemies in a couple directions. You can get around it if you try and going directly east isn't all that hard. You can outrun everything in that direction except Cazadores which require sneaking by or avoiding completely.

Certainly it's optional but if I don't do that then I'm forced along a linear path until around level 10, I thought Open World games were suppose to be, well Open World.

This is a serious question. Do you know what the words "forced" and "linear" means?

If you have multiple options in deciding your path, it is by definition not a linear or forced path.

The 1st part, that would be a major flaw in game design and it's the same flaw and mistake that Morrowind made, way too many preset items. At least Skyrim randomizes the item in relation to your level but no you can sneak north of Goodsprings and break your character, how much fun is the game then. Certainly it's optional but if I don't do that then I'm forced along a linear path until around level 10, I thought Open World games were suppose to be, well Open World.

As to the 2nd part Esbern is certainly vulnerable when leaving the Ratway and entering Sky Haven Temple when the Dragon comes down, if he's not essential then I can't proceed with the Main Quest and that's lost content. New Vegas was able to get away with that because the most important NPC's were in no danger from being attacked and it worked for that game but it wouldn't work in Skyrim.

Open world doesn't mean you get to go anywhere at early levels and have a cake walk. All FOs have been open world and all but 3 were filled with areas that would own you if you were low level. Secondly, there is nothing north of Goodsprings that can "break" your character as you have nothing to repair any of those items with until much later. Lastly, how "broken" can a character even be when there are places that aren't leveled? There's always challenge somewhere.



When leaving the Ratway? Sure. When talking too him in his room? Nope. A creative writer would have left a journal on him so if he were killed later there would be a way to continue. A creative writer would have many avenues and NPCs to get information for the main quest rather than one. You can kill everyone you meet in NV and still continue the main quest you just have to explore and talk to people.

So what is your solution, then? Create a purely linear story? I prefer choices in my games.

The only thing that skyrim gained from NVis the crippling lag unfortunately for PS3

I found alot to do in NVegas. But I never got the DLC's except for Old world blues? is it? I can't even remember. I just know I had so many bugs the game became unplayable.
Lots of choices there. But honestly and flame away if you must I loved Fallout 3.
Dialogue in NV was better than any game I've played though.

To the 2nd part, that takes time and data, not to mention that Beth would be wasting money on hiring Max Von Sydow in the 1st place if people could prematurely kill Esbern.

Dialog is not that much more deep,

So? In NV you could kill Matthew Perry and Kris Kristofferson as soon as you meet them. As well as the lesser cast like Danny Trejo, Felicia Day, Micheal Dorn, etc. It should be my choice.

felicia day was in fallout NV she is my new favorite redhead ever since kari byron from mythbusters turned into an apartment complex.

So? In NV you could kill Matthew Perry and Kris Kristofferson as soon as you meet them. As well as the lesser cast like Danny Trejo, Felicia Day, Micheal Dorn, etc. It should be my choice.

I just looked up NV voice actors! I can't believe how many famous people are voices! Sweet peaches, Kris Kristofferson is Chief Hanlon!