What's the deal with cannabalism? : V

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:39 am

There was cannibalism and cannibals in Fallout 3, Fallout: New Vegas and now in Skyrim? What's up with that?

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:56 am

It happens and it usually is a good emotional pull for people one way or the other. Most people dont just go "Oh, whatever, he is just eating a member of my species."

Oh and cannaballism happens.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:23 pm

The cannibals of New Guinea call people "Long Pig", they say Human tastes most like pork.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:28 am

Depends on the context.

Cannibalism is often used to denote a really sick/twisted/evil person- in Fallout this made sense as people get hungry, and sometimes they turn to others for food. Not sure how it's used in Skyrim, as I have yet to play it.

It's interesting to note that the cannibalism stigma is actually a social construct- there are tribes that have been documented to have engaged in the practice (most likely to enemies of other tribes) and there's no doubt that they didn't think that there's anything wrong with it, though it probably wasn't an everyday occurence.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:54 am

just caked in there, for what reasons beyond rp I know not. I do like that you can be a werewolf and have cannabalism as well. the quest was annoying though. some nutcase trying to "hypnotize you" to eat bodies. twas also shocking to see how many denizens of skyrim (peeps you meet) that eat people. they never explain why she is able to do what she does. and as far as I am aware to even eat anything you have to have an item equppied?

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:03 am

Namira's ring is standard equipment for all my vampire/werewolf characters. It just fits so well with them. Not so much for my other characters.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:43 am

I usually get that perk with each char i make. Especially with a Vamp char.

Spoiler

It's feeding that actually makes you stronger. The health regain is great for daylight combat

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:18 am

I'm particularly fond of this aspect. it's macabre, dark, and dirty. but then of course... i'm into green bounty hunting

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:01 pm

Cool. I didnt know the player could commit cannabalism in Tes V Skyrim. Truly my Orc Grom Grom Gro Smasher will be happy

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:51 pm

The cannibals of New Guinea call people "Long Pig", they say Human tastes most like pork.

................. :sick:

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:15 am

The cannibals of New Guinea call people "Long Pig", they say Human tastes most like pork.

Yes i've read the same thing from others who have tasted..human flesh.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:55 am

It really gave me a surprise when I first came across cannibalism in the game. I ended up killing the cannibal I came across and failed part of the quest. Oops! I'm new to the elder scrolls series, so when I first started coming across human hearts and flesh as collectible items I was equilly surprised. Interesting addition though. I'm just starting to come across quests involving the daedra and it definitely adds a new and more sinister dimension to the game and it is intriguing actually. It gives you something a little different to the usual stuff.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:35 am

I haven't yet done the Cannabilism quest in Skyrim, exactly how much does it buff you? Is it considered a "Fortify Health+Fortify Health Regeneration", or will it actually heal you as well as increase your Health Regen?

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:03 pm

my people used to eat people, called it Kai ( food ) tangata ( person ) lol

IMO i don't really see it as THAT bad, it was just the way of life back in those days and now things have changed.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:26 pm

And if you knew what your cute little Bosmer does when you are logged off ...

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:13 pm

I must say i was very reluctant to eat that human heart ingredient, to discover its properties. But i ate it. ...

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:38 am

It's interesting to note that the cannibalism stigma is actually a social construct- there are tribes that have been documented to have engaged in the practice (most likely to enemies of other tribes) and there's no doubt that they didn't think that there's anything wrong with it, though it probably wasn't an everyday occurence.

Many stigma's arise from threats to health or stability (For example Jewish "Kosher" concepts provide a basic framework for food hygiene, before it was understood properly). When you eat any kind of food you also ingest bacterial and possibly even viral or diseased tissue but stuff that infects pigs usually can't infect humans, but when you eat a human you're fully susceptible to anything that human might've been carrying even not-usually-communicable things such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease)

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:48 am

Many stigma's arise from threats to health or stability (For example Jewish "Kosher" concepts provide a basic framework for food hygiene, before it was understood properly). When you eat any kind of food you also ingest bacterial and possibly even viral or diseased tissue but stuff that infects pigs usually can't infect humans, but when you eat a human you're fully susceptible to anything that human might've been carrying even not-usually-communicable things such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease)

It's simple, cook them, before you eat them. No bacteria can survive boiling temperatures.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:23 pm

It's simple, cook them, before you eat them. No bacteria can survive boiling temperatures.

I guess you didn't actually read what i just said.

Firstly, the stigma's arose in early history of man, back when we used to cure most of our food, not cook it. Curing is good at preserving but not nearly as effective at killing bacteria

Secondly most prion diseases like CJD and Kuru are caused by specific proteins that break the tertiary structure of other proteins in a cascade effect. Cooking it to the point you denature or destroy the problem proteins will actually reduce the protein you wanted to eat (the meat) into a charcoal briquette

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:50 am

I guess you didn't actually read what i just said.

Firstly, the stigma's arose in early history of man, back when we used to cure most of our food, not cook it. Curing is good at preserving but not nearly as effective at killing bacteria

Secondly most prion diseases like CJD and Kuru are caused by specific proteins that break the tertiary structure of other proteins in a cascade effect. Cooking it to the point you denature or destroy the problem proteins will actually reduce the protein you wanted to eat (the meat) into a charcoal briquette

Curing was more a method of preservation, and not cooking. And it also introduces a whole can of worms about other forms of bacteria. I'd rather risk the lack of those proteins you spoke about and cook my food well. Afterall fire isn't holy for nothing.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:12 pm

It's not a matter of "cooking it well". Prions aren't a germ you can kill. Cooking it to the point where you render the prions inert would make the meat inedible.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:37 am

It's not a matter of "cooking it well". Prions aren't a germ you can kill. Cooking it to the point where you render the prions inert would make the meat inedible.

Boiling it in hot water should do the trick, without burning the meat. Apparently it sterilises at 121 degree celcius.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:03 am

There was cannibalism and cannibals in Fallout 3, Fallout: New Vegas and now in Skyrim? What's up with that?

In F3 and FNV it fits the theme well due to the gameworld. In Skyrim it fits the theme well because of the gameworld.

Or are you really trying to suggest that Skyrim is nothing more than a sword and sorcery FNV? If so there is no option here to make a "MEH" large enough to reflect my opinion. The same firm made the games. Whoop-de-do

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:02 am

They enjoy it in Skyrim like it's a delicacy. You have vampires and werwolves, so I can't see the reason for a bunch of cannibals stirring up much controversy in the lore. I think it's more the fact that your are forced to indulge in it yourself to complete the quest.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:32 pm

They enjoy it in Skyrim like it's a delicacy. You have vampires and werwolves, so I can't see the reason for a bunch of cannibals stirring up much controversy in the lore. I think it's more the fact that your are forced to indulge in it yourself to complete the quest.

Disagree. You make it sound as if human flesh is an accepted meal at suppertime, and it's not. Also, TES vampires often do seem to eat the flesh of man and mer, but they are cannibals by choice, not condition, if the player character is any clue- all you need to do is drink blood if you're a vampire, which is a weak broth compared to actual cannibalism as it is normally understood, if you excuse the crummy play on words