And that would fit the game just fine if you have the Wild Wasteland Trait (might be a little too much without it). Here's some of my favorite homages to movies and comics I found in the game. From the vault:







From Fallout 3..

Ol' Painless:

In the movie Predator, the character Blaine has a Minigun named, "Ol' Painless."

Just off the top of my head.

They are in TES, or in a time about 575 years before fo nv. Fo needs to stop making people believe that knives beat guns any time and all the time.

On the topic of blades, is there a way to get a Machete Gladius without killing a named Legion character? Pickpocketing hasn't worked so far. And recruits/veterans/decanuses/etc don't carry them, only named characters linked to quests.

sometimes in Cottonwood Cove randoms have them. Im pretty sure I have seen them at the fort too.

I stole a machete gladius from the centurion at Cottonwood Cove, I had snuck up behind him saved the game the pick-pocketed him and if I was caught I'd just reload. Eventually I got his machete, took a lot of reloads.

Anyways why do you want a sword? Guns kill people from a distance making swords useless and if you somehow manage to get in close, combat shotgun.

Consider what the (Fallout) world was like just before the war.

As has already been said, swords (and especially katana!) don't really belong in New Vegas.

Swords?? : hmy: But you have to let the baddies get close to use one! :nono:

Dude, I can go to the mall right now and buy one. Maybe even a Pawn Shop or the Flea Market. It's a Katana, not the Ark of the Covenant.

and dont forget that melee weapons is a stat you can build in this game... so why are some people saying it doesnt belong? i guess they are new to fallout

Yes swords should make a come back.

Skyrim?

I've cleared both areas of unnamed NPCs 5 times now. Still no Gladius.

it realy depends on the feel of a sword does a long sword rapier or katana belong in vegas how did it get there whats it's backstory can't have some random npc swinging a katana without a reason

I've really had enough of the "established" forum members shooting down good ideas quoting "realism" as their defence.

Fallout : New Vegas is a video game which people play to *shock* *horror* have fun. Thus, swords belong in Fallout : New Vegas.

Assuming that you have that big a problem with plausibility, you could have an old US Cavalry Sword from the Civil War. There's your plausibility, now shut up and let people have their weapons of choice.

Seriously, since when was there NOT a good reason to have some swords in a game? Some of you guys make it sound like they'd be spoiling the immersion factor for you. Well, here's some news; swords have existed (even in the Fallout universe) for thousands of years. Given the whole "scavenge to survive" sub-theme as well, surely assuming a character stumbled across a sword, they would use it, no? And tell me why do people fashion makeshift swords out of bits of metal in the wasteland (for shishkebabs amongst other things)? Are they not plausibly effective enough for you?

The point is simple, swords are totally acceptable and any half-decent game designer knows that carving people up with a solid blade is a "bread and butter" gameplay experience, ever since the dawn of modern gaming.

In fact, let's go further. I want poisonable Shuriken, a Kusarigama, Nunchaku and Tonfa, just for the hell of it. Why? Because it's fun. The Devs can write in a feasible plotline as to why they exist, the only question is if people want them, and I, for one, do.

oh my god, a thousand times this.

Dude, I said consider what it was like in the Fallout world before the war. Fallout world. Before the war. Not the real world, not right here and not right now. Getting a real katana at that time would be just like finding the Ark.

And yeah, you could go buy yourself a fancy little katana right now too, but guess what? It'll break the first time you try to really use it. You buy a katana at a flea market and you're getting a knockoff, NOT the real thing.

Don't you watch Pawn Stars? Those guys have an armory! Personally, I think the dev team could have utilized that fact to implement any number of odd, anachronistic weapons. I don't mean their pawn shop specifically, but it seems like, with all the money entering and leaving Vegas, any number of odd things could show up to pay off debts or get a little more cash.

This is silly. It's a fu@ckin Katana. There's bound to be one fu@kin Katana in Nevada. This is not the Tri Force Sword from Zelda were talkin about. It's a primative weapon that originated in Japan. My God. There were Katanas in the United States long before Wolrd War II. Americans would buy them in Japan and then bring them back to the states or Japanese immigrants in the US already had them. They were even made in the United States in those days. Americans would also train in Japanese dojos and then go back to the states and start their own schools. There was an exchange of culture going on between the two countries since the 1800's.

If you ever used one of those in combat, I'd laugh my ass off. Those things are show pieces, not actual weapons. I guess if you swung really hard or got in a thrust, you cold do some damage. Otherwise, you'd be better off with a baseball bat. Those swords are not made with high quality steel, nor are they sharpened or in any way combat capable. You can get swords that are, but they're in the range of $1200 a piece.

You'd have a better chance killing someone with a good bokken than with one of those mantle decorations.

What the hell is with the dammed near holy reverence of the katana? It was optimized for fighting against men wearing armor made of silk, wood and leather, not steel. In comparison to a good european broadsword the katana is laughable. It shatters on impact against true armor or even when parried by a heavier western blade. I've seen it happen.
And yes, I know about that video of the swordsman cutting mild steel and bamboo with a katana, and of the one where the katana in a vice is splitting bullets. Both swords were made with modern alloys, not the [censored] steel the Japanese had to work with when swords were actually worth a damn in battle.

Ummm I don't know about you but I only buy the real thing, hand forged full tang katana. Not exactly hard to get ahold of. any katana made for iaido is the real thing. There are knockoffs but not everyone is dumb enough to buy one.

Japanese samurai wore armor made of steel or iron riveted together, so your silk, leather, and wood claim is false. Katana were forged out of an alloy of high carbon steel that allowed it to be both strong and springy. Your claim of european broadswords is based on your preferance for it so I'll disregard it completely. A katana doesn't shatter against armor or when parrying a western blade, once again because of the carbon steal it was composed of. And as for the "Modern alloys" that the swords in that video are made of, any katana used for tamishigiri is generally a hand forged sword forged in the same manner as they have been since feudal Japan. So that argument is also false. The Japanese did have many swords issued to Ashiguru that were composed of inferior metal that would act as you've said above but most samurai were wealthy noblemen who believed the soul of a warrior was in his sword and wouldn't have settled for anything less than a high quality katana. Basing your opinion on your personal preferance just ends up with someone blowing holes in your argument. Besides both the Japanese katana and European broadsword were well designed however in most academic circles the katana is viewed as the better designed sword. However the design of the sword doesn't make you a better warrior your skills do. There's a reason that Miamoto Musashi was able to defeat men armed with katanas with a bokken. And as for the "holy reverence of the katana"? I blame anime and the internet. Most samurai used spears such as the naginata or yari anyway as their primary weapon. But my advice would be to deeply research your historical claims before posting or you'll be flamed by katana lovers without arguments or historical proof to back you up.

Ok on topic time. Any society that can build railroads is fully capable of producing a forge and using it to forge any type of bladed weapon such as a sword so I'd say they sit in fine with fallout. Especially if guns are more difficult to find. Besides, the legion seems to find swords completely plausible as a weapon.

Lord Coake don't talk about blades if you don't know anything bout it. Its very well known that properly crafted full tang katanas are probably the most durable of all swords ever created due to its forging process.
Properly forged katanas are created from not one but two 100+ times folded metals that are then folded 100+ times (if not thousands of times) together. One part of the sword is made to be harder and retain an edge while the core or back edge of the blade is made to flexible and allow the sword to not snap under extreme pressure (hence the wavy pattern you see from the variation on metal types on actual katanas). The way these blades were tested was on convicts. If the sword didn't cleanly cut through a person in one blow it was either thrown away or sold to lower class samurai and this was back with what you called the "crap steel" they used.

The fact that you have seen a "katana" "shatter" on impact means that you weren't even using a real katana. A real katana would never shatter if it was correctly made due to the flexibility of its core. At the worst if it was a proper katana the edge of the blade would be damaged due to it being more brittle than it core it would never shatter even if you sledge hammer it. The fact it shattered means that you were using a piece of crap sword that was made to look like a katana that wasn't forged with the traditional process and made out of one block of metal nor was it probably folded to strengthen the blade and give it greater durability and flexibility. Don't judge a weapon when you haven't even gotten your hands on a real one.

But yes I digress the "katanas" you see cutting steal and bullets aren't made of traditional metals and instead of modern day materials however. That doesn't mean you can't get one of those modern day katanas and use it in New Vegas.

Nope, Samurai armour are made composite, steel (and japanese don't use pure iron) scales are only apply on vital parts (upper chest area, shoulder guard etc).


Katana are not springy compare to other "thin" swords. Samurai rarely blocks with their katana and prefer to brush away incoming attacks. Modern ones (such as the one you seen on Mythbuster) would be more springy due to improve of advancement in steel forging, but even that snap in half with a side way hit.



Not at all, even feudal japan have a long list of improvement done to prefect their sword forging; from side and half straight blade to curve shape, from simply folding to localize carbon control. During Meiji Restoration the Emperor's army utilize western steel forging to improve their katana, which still continues.


False as well. Most samurai, like most European feudal Knights, are middle class on that period and can only have what they can afford.


No, actually, he cheated, or use tactics. Eitherway, it is fiction, just like Lancelot.

Wow this is some argument about swords. I do not understand why people would even be against the idea of any melee weapon in the game. Guns are superior, and nobody is going to dispute that. Except on one point; they do require ammunition. Would it not be great if we could have a fallback weapon like a sword to save our butts when we run out of ammo? I also pointed out in a different thread that swords are still part of the military's uniform. My cutlass is not made just for ceremonies.