So wheres the sabotage of economy and replacing of shopkeepe

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:58 am

I recently tried to find a way to sabotage the economy but found there isn't a way to do it like we were promised pre launch. Do shopkeepers actually get replaced because the drunken huntsmen is empty everyday for the last 30 in game days after killing its owner.
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BethanyRhain
 
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:16 am

welcome to skyrim
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Stryke Force
 
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:35 pm

Yeah :confused: ...

Mods will fix this.
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Britta Gronkowski
 
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:16 pm

Economy sabotaging didn't make it into the game I don't know if shopkeepers get replaced.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:14 am

Do shopkeepers actually get replaced because the drunken huntsmen is empty everyday for the last 30 in game days after killing its owner.

Some do.

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Camilla Valerius will take over her brother's shop if he dies. The Whiterun inn will get a new innkeeper if Hulda dies. And there's an alchemist in Windhelm who'll die of old age during a quest, at which point his assistant inherits the shop. Might be more of these. These are just the ones I've personally seen.

The economy stuff was just hype though, typical of Bethesda.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:16 pm

Yeah, it sometimes works, on my evil character I went on a minor killing spree and I killed Hulda at the bannered Mare and when I served my time Ysolda replaced her.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:01 pm

If you type qqq in game it takes you to the Skyrim trading floor where you can see live feed of the exchange prices of all the merchants in the game. If you exit the trading floor and go pick up all the iron ingots or wood or pick all the plants or steal all the ingredients etc etc the stock prices will decline steadily.

If you use a store a lot and sell/buy there or do quests the stock prices will increase. There's no way to buy/sell and the stock prices have no effect on the game.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:12 am

what would sabotaging the economy in Skyrim really accomplish anyway? Create total anarchy? That just seems way too buggy to me, NPC's would start killing each other off, quests would be gone for good, and most importantly.. where would I buy my arrows!
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:27 am

Please find every single thing you don't like about the game and then spend all your time complaining about it on the forum. Also, be sure to find any reason to tell us about how much it svcks on every single threads. It's important that you not let the rest of us enjoy the game or the forum.

Remember only you, and your complaints matter, so you need to make sure and ruin it for everyone, even if they think they're having fun. Thanks in advance.
Quit being so overdramatic, complaints have much a place on this fourm as saying there is nothing wrong as the game. Plus maybe you should actually read the OP's post he wasn't whining, he was just asking if there was a way to sabotage the economy as Bethesda was saying that you could.

As far as I know some shopkeepers can be replaced, but there isn't a way to cause the economy to crash.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:37 pm

I recently tried to find a way to sabotage the economy but found there isn't a way to do it like we were promised pre launch. Do shopkeepers actually get replaced because the drunken huntsmen is empty everyday for the last 30 in game days after killing its owner.
Please find every single thing you don't like about the game and then spend all your time complaining about it on the forum. Also, be sure to find any reason to tell us about how much it svcks on every single threads. It's important that you not let the rest of us enjoy the game or the forum.

Remember only you, and your complaints matter, so you need to make sure and ruin it for everyone, even if they think they're having fun. Thanks in advance.

I can't see a complaint, more of a musing. I myself was sawing some wood at the sawmill in Riverwood thinking to myself "How would I go about sabotaging this mill?" It was just a passing thought, because of the type of character I'm playing. It's a bummer that it's not in the game, but it's not game breaking; so why would this be a complaints thread?
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:17 pm

There's quite a bit that didn't make the final cut. Just read the ES Wiki's entry on Radiant Story:

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Radiant_Story

Reading some of the dev quotes, you realize just how different things turned out to be ...
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:41 am

Reading some of the dev quotes, you realize just how different things turned out to be ...

as was the Same With Oblivion and Fallout 3

There are no

RS rescue missions.

Sabatoging Mills

Economy, not even a "light Touch" as Todd put it. you cant effect the economy in anyway remebmer that talk about changing the prices of arrows? you can't even make arrows.

or anything That had significant enthusiasm over the 11 months peeps waited for Skyrim to be released.
pointless flame removed
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:43 am

How was I complaining? I was simply asking where these features were. Just because someone brings up a point against the game or Bethesda you outcry as if you know them personally. The reason you act like you do is because I'm right and you're trying to defend the game by disregarding my point, Grow up. Anyway thanks to the rest of you who were more mature.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:00 am

Spoiler

And there's an alchemist in Windhelm who'll die of old age during a quest, at which point his assistant inherits the shop
Spoiler

Uhh, no. Every time I enter he nags at me, then goes to his bed and starts "dying".
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:32 pm

Booo. Drunken Huntsman owner is a good chap. Leave him be.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:13 pm

Not there it seems...
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:19 am

as was the Same With Oblivion and Fallout 3

There are no

RS rescue missions.

Sabatoging Mills

Economy, not even a "light Touch" as Todd put it. you cant effect the economy in anyway remebmer that talk about changing the prices of arrows? you can't even make arrows.

or anything That had significant enthusiasm over the 11 months peeps waited for Skyrim to be released.

and don't waste your time with RoboMilk, I've no Idea what that guys problem is.
You can invest in shops if that counts.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:24 am

I am royally annoyed by this.
I bought the game fully expecting this feature to be present, as I was told it would be in the game.
If I go to a restaurant and order a steak with fries, the gerant telling me that the fries are excellent, when I then get a plate without fries, Ill be miffed.
All that was neccesary was something small like: 'Hey, we tried, we couldnt get it in game'.
That would have been fine. But no, nothing like that.
So looking back on my first day on Skyrim I feel like an idiot. Like a dupe. Working at that sawmill thinking it actually did something.
I really do not appreciate being lied to like that.

You can downplay it by saying the game is wonderful without it, and that may be so.
But the point here is that you just do not sell a product that doesnt do the things you said it would.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:47 am

Back to the original question of "Where's the sabotage of the economy?"


It's everywhere you look when you step out into the real world.

Enjoy the game, because it doesn't have the problems of real life.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:29 pm

There's quite a bit that didn't make the final cut. Just read the ES Wiki's entry on Radiant Story:

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Radiant_Story

Reading some of the dev quotes, you realize just how different things turned out to be ...
Wow.... I forgot about all that stuff... Sounds like a really great game..
I am royally annoyed by this.
I bought the game fully expecting this feature to be present, as I was told it would be in the game.
If I go to a restaurant and order a steak with fries, the gerant telling me that the fries are excellent, when I then get a plate without fries, Ill be miffed.
All that was neccesary was something small like: 'Hey, we tried, we couldnt get it in game'.
That would have been fine. But no, nothing like that.
So looking back on my first day on Skyrim I feel like an idiot. Like a dupe. Working at that sawmill thinking it actually did something.
I really do not appreciate being lied to like that.

You can downplay it by saying the game is wonderful without it, and that may be so.
But the point here is that you just do not sell a product that doesnt do the things you said it would.
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From Peter Molyneux, par for the course, but I had forgotten how much Beth does this, too. I shouldn't have. Radiant AI wasn't at all what they said it was. Like you said, still an awesomely fun game, BUT imagine if the economy and radiant story stuff were in...
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:16 am

It's in the same place as Radiant AI from Oblivion

And everything Peter Molyneux has ever said
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:48 am

Spoiler

Uhh, no. Every time I enter he nags at me, then goes to his bed and starts "dying".

Spoiler
You'll get a letter from his assistant in a few days, and the quest continues.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:23 am

So looking back on my first day on Skyrim I feel like an idiot. Like a dupe. Working at that sawmill thinking it actually did something.

Same here :confused: I chopped wood and worked the sawmill in general for about an hour overall, and after an in-game week with no change to riverwood what so ever, I felt a bit annoyed. Although, I did have enough gold for the whiterun house :biggrin:
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:59 pm

Oh, and while we're on the subject of things that were meant to be but weren't, Mods for consoles :stare:
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:38 pm

Oh, and while we're on the subject of things that were meant to be but weren't, Mods for consoles :stare:
Fairly sure they explicitly said while they would LOVE to do it, they can't.
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