If it's anything like SI it will be atleast 30 hours of gameplay.

Hopefully a new area like they did with Shivering Isles.

This isn't the same kind of optimism before 11.11.11 ?
Getting svcked into hype is very bad.

More magic.

also five more reason to be excited.

1) the content that was cut will be there. (we all know thye do it)
2) better magic
3) they can't possibly make it worse (that is not a challenge btw)
4) new Areas
5) The possibilities are endless for grand things like owning a town, mine, ect.

Yeah, you're totally right...

Skyrim the DLC is going to be infinitely worse.

Swear to God, some people on this forum are more jaded than an emerald.

Optimism for the DLC, no. I will watch it with caution in fear that it night add even more bugs.

Yeah but he said many things, and only half turned out to be true but then again maybe much of what he said was taken off to be sold back later. Who knows.

That's what I'm wanna see

this is sad but true I mean at least in new Vegas and fallout 3 the game was playable before dlc but after dlc it got CLOSE to skyrims problems and made it worse I shudder to think of skyrim with dlc on ps3 seeing how dlc with new Vegas and fallout 3 made the games bad but not even nearly as bad as skyrim

Besides the godawful horse armor debacle, Bethesda has a great DLC/expansion track record. Everyone loved the DLC and expansions for the previous two titles, so even if you're not as happy as you'd like to be about vanilla Skyrim, let's be a little optimistic about what they can do with future content.

Well my dark elf necromancer/illusionist has been a vampire since level 2. Now he is level 35. After 45+ hours of play the vampire skills, spells and abilities (such as being stronger at night etc) feel more catered to stealth than magic. Just my opinion of course.

Why would I ever be positive when Bethesda is in charge?
Better to be a pessimist and be positively suprised when things turn out good than to be an optimist and get crushed when things turn out crap.
And with Bethesda? Heh, it's not gonna be total crap but it's hardly gonna live up to expectations either.


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Allow me to flesh that out.

Fallout 3.
Got 5 DLC's.
We got a linear shooter, an RPG DLC which felt way too short, a DLC that [censored] over the storyline (bad as it was) but did other things right, a sandbox DLC and a big dungeon crawler set in outer space.

Now, the actual RPG DLC was The Pitt, it had choices, it didn't have a black and white morality and it was the best one artistically.
And the one that did a few things right was Broken Steel, it added new perks to the leveled lists and added new enemies and some new locations to the main game.

Why be cynical?
Cause every DLC that Bethesda creates for Skyrim is most likely going to be a overly combat heavy sideadventure set in an isolated area outside of Skyrim.
What I think DLC's should do?
Flesh out the actual game.
Point Lookout may have been fun to explore through but it didn't add anything apart from Punga Fruits to vendor lists to the Capital Wasteland.
So when you got done with PL, MZ, TP and O:A and hell let's throw in FNV's DLC's as well, LSR, DM, OWB and HH then you go back to the 'actual game' and nothing has happened.
You got a nice little adventure and some toys to bring back but now you're back in the same boring overplayed wasteland like you were before you entered the DLC's area.

That's my general beef with Bethesda and DLC's.
As to Bethesda themselves. They don't have a good writing staff and focus on quantity over quality, so we'll get a [censored]load of content that is really hollow.
So the new quests? The new storylines? Might be fun, but they're going to be a 3 hour adventure with a linear storyline which after you've completed there is no incentive to complete it again.
The new characters? Probably black and white, Bethesda don't do intruiging plot twists very well. So I wouldn't expect there to be a colourful cast for the DLC's. One or two characters will stand out, the rest will seem boring and repetitive.

And the new weapons? A dagger is still a dagger, might be a different paintjob and stats but it's still a dagger. Nothing new and exciting will come to any other playstyle but magic.

I just don't see a point in being optimistic.

There are a few things I'd like to see:

1. A shout to transform into an actual dragon, not some ugly blood dragon either, a Frost or Ancient dragon or one like Odaviing. I have the soul of a dragon, the blood of a dragon, and I absorb the souls of dragons, so why the heck can't I transform into one and fly around Skyrim.

2. Unique Bows, shields and armors that are actually worth going after and better then ones you can craft, there is really only one unique bow worth going after and that's Karliah's. The only good unique shield is Ysgramor's, stuff that is actually worth getting would be nice.

3. Being able to remove/change armor parts and change armor colors, applies to robes and clothes as well. Ex. the pauldrons on the ebony armor, I want to remove them. Seems like something easy enough to add to the blacksmithing menu at the forge.

4. The ability to craft circlets and other oddities that are not currently available.

5. A quest or something of the sort to make weapons and armor named after the player, Ex My sword is called Dirge of Solomon, Solomon being my warriors name.

6. Buying land in a hold to build a house/palace/tower/lair on, like Morrowind would let you buy a house outside of town, Balmora iirc.

7. Titles earned for legendary feats that NPC's will address you as. There are some for the stormcloaks, but I just killed Alduin the entire world should call me something in recognition for such a feat. Not just marvel when a freshly slain dragon gets it's soul devoured by me.

8. The Ability to wear the Pisjic Robes, honestly I deleted my mage when I read I couldn't wear those, the robes we can get look like ass except Vaerminas, no other robes have designs on them or anything looking cool, so let us craft our own robes and add designs to them, armor as well, heck even the weapons. I'm a master blacksmith and I can't even add inlays on my armor and weapons or different designs on my armor, some master blacksmith I turned out to be.

9. So I'm Meridias champion, well give me something to do then, all you daedric lords have more then one artifact stop being so stingy with only one, and really Namira who the hell wants to be a cannibal, if that appeals to anyone then well... No comment.

10. Oh hello horse I run faster then you and I can run longer then you, aren't you just useless. So how about letting me ride a Sabre Cat or some other type of animal. Honestly Wood elves should be able to tame and ride the larger species of the animals, whats the point of taming it if it svcks and rages after 60 seconds. Or some NPC should offer the service to go and tame a specific type of animal and you come back later and you get one saddled to ride, Bosmer should get to do it themselves. If I have to ride something useless I might as well look cool doing it.

11. Vampire's meh screw them, Twilight can svck my.... Well you get the idea, this is Nord land, just like Morrowind is vampire driven. There should be more to do with Werebeats and Hircine in general. If you do his quests and become his champion then you should get to do more then the one hunt for Sinding.

12. Why the hell do Dunmer looks like Klingons. Seriously, they look like ass that got put in a blender on puree.... Give me more options to choose in creating my character face, right now I'm so glad the nightingale hood covers that hideous thing called a dunmers face up. Oh they went back to morrowind style, who said that was a good thing, evolution happens, I think Dunmer are well over-due.

13. Crafting my own arrows.... Why can't I do that? I have pondered that for a long time. At this point I want the ability to choose the arrow heads since I get a lot of enjoyment out of seeing arrows sticking in bodies, dwarven arrows are my current fav since the heads looks awesome, so do the steel arrow heads. Daedric arrows look like I'm shooting rudamentry forks at people..... Ugly.

14. OHai Hroki you look good let's get married, What? We can't? Why the hell not??? Fine. Why hello there Ingun let's shack up good lookin', What? Not Again? Fffsss Well howdy there Vex you look mighty tempting, For the love of God again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rage, smash controller, find new controller, go play CoD and kill people to relieve stress.

My list is seriously long this is only a portion of it, I doubt I'll see much if any of that but hope is just that, hope.

Thats your opinion. Why are you even here if you dont like bethesda? :/

This, so I expect something like Point Lookout in Fallout 3. Real areas with an main quest and side quests. 2-3 DLC

Never said I didn't like them, I just don't trust them. They do make good games, better than most developers, but they have severe flaws.
As to why I'm here, cause Bethesda owns Fallout and Fallout 4 will likely be influenced by Skyrim.

More moon sugar! I just need a taste...

A magic system that doesnt svck.
More monsters, beasts and what not. "Mix it up yo"
Boss fights that arnt potion drinking compatitions.
Maybe balance stuff while at it.

Man, I feel like I just spat in Beth's face.

I think Bethesda should release a decent patch first, before releasing DLC's. On the topic, could there be new missions involved in the DLC's. Skyrim is my maiden Elder Scrolls game, so i don't really know hat to expect. I had DLC's before, for multiplayer games, never campaigns.

Aha.I know,every game has it flaws but.
You prefer fallout over TES? As a TES fan i love skyrim

Same. Except a leg club. Spears and crossbows we can do without, but we definitely need a leg club.

I agree, I dont know how they ignored these?

We still have Morrowind in skyrim + cyrodiil
I mean why? I swimmed all across vvardenfell now,Its pretty huge.

I'm not to well up on my Lore so correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm pretty sure the Orcish mountains are close to Skyrim? perhaps a DLC that lets us explore that area would be good, i'm sure the orc players would agree! it would add a load of new quests to the game and a lot of fancy armour and weapons, and its a whole new place to explore!

Also i hope it will have some kind of edit appearance feature that lets you change your hair, or horns if you play Argonian like me but not just change them, they should add some new ones in! like what happened to all the fin styles for Argonians and the short hair for human characters?

But they should fix some of the issues with the console version before they bring stuff like that out....Just say'in.

Yeah kinda, never heard about TES (or bothered to memorize it's name and the fact that it existed) until 2008 when I got Oblivion while I've been playing Fallout for 12 years.