So it's another one of these threads where the OP thinks he knows what Fallout is about and says that New Vegas is a failure, eh?

You guys have fun with this one. I'm going back to the Skyrim forums for a bit.

Before I leave, I'd just like to state that OP does not, in fact, know anything about what Fallout is about. In order to even get a taste of what it's about, he has to have had played the originals, which he clearly has not.

And, from his poorly stated points, it sounds like he hasn't played much of New Vegas either. Sounds like he just popped in the disc for like 20 min. and said "WELP, I'Z DONE HURR."

The only thing FO3 did right was resurrect the Fallout franchise and give Obsidian a shot a making a better game. FO 3 is a better sandbox game, but not a better RPG - not by a long shot. The choices in FO3 are so inconsequential that the game might as well be a shooter. People can rant about how tiny the map in NV is (it's not) or how barebones the locations are (no comment - I really don't see much different between the two). I never spent 100 hours wandering around in FO3 because it was BORING. A good thing, too, since just about every major location in the game had ZERO effect on the conclusion.

NV is far from perfect, but it's a superior game. My first reaction on completing it? "Wow - time for another go and shake things up this time". Can you do that in FO3? Not a chance.

In conclusion, NV > FO3.

The idea that one has to have played the original Fallouts in order to be allowed to have an opinion on any Fallout, New Vegas included, gets to me. I started at 3, and I don't feel this makes me ignorant to all that Fallout is. It means that I know what style of game I like, and that is not Fallout 1 and 2. I'm not trying to start anything here, or be aggressive or angry or any of that, I just don't like how people have some sort of god complex about having played 1 and 2.
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I don't like how people have some sort of god complex about 3 either

You are more than entitled to your opinion as long as you present yourself in a decent and rational manner. I'm sure the op would have had a different reaction if he had done the same, but he didn't.

Nostalgia is a [censored], we get you don't like the changes. You are preaching to the choir. But the fact of the matter is this game is closer to the original fallout and alot of people appreciate it, which irritates everyone to no end when someone comes in to complain about it not being like every other one of bethesda's damn games. So people just have to use a little tact :thumbsup:

I think it somewhat failed at that too. Giving Obsidian such a shaky and limiting base to work on. Had Fallout 3 been better in line with the originals (a better middleground in core gameplay between what "Beth does" and what Fallout 1 & 2 did), New Vegas would've been even better. :shrug:

I hate using what if's or imagine if's when talking about past efforts, but I can't shake the thought from my mind when discussing these games.

I didn't say that you're not allowed to have an opinion on Fallout as a whole or that you're ignorant as to what Fallout is and should be, I'm just saying that you shouldn't try to state that "THIS IS HOW FALLOUT SHOULD BE AND ALL OTHER OPINIONS ARE MOOT." if you barely know anything about the series as a whole in the first place. It would be at least wise and nice enough if you knew the lore behind Fallout a bit or took some time to read the backstory and info on the previous games to realize why the first two are praised so much in the first place. It's like telling the devs what Skyrim should be like and the only games you've played are CoD and Halo. It just doesn't make sense.

The OP, clearly, has not done any of this.

Touche.

This too.

This is true, and I will apologise for getting fired up and having a rant. By the way, my rant was not aimed at you in particular. I just see a lot of posts- by a lot of people- that seem to be expressing disdain for those who have not played 1 and 2. Maybe I'm overreacting, maybe I'm not. I do, however, feel that this person is entitled to say that they believe Fallout 3 is better than New Vegas without having played the first two. I also feel that I have lost track of the point I am trying to make, and I will stop now before I start making even less sense. :ahhh:

My first question to you would be, Have you played the originals? If not, how do you know what the "fallout feel" is?

Yeah I Like The Capital Wasteland Better, But The Mojavi Is Good For Other Reasons, Theres Actully More Than Six Towns In The Game, A Least Big Ones. And Its Not A Just Nuclear Toilet Its More People Fighting And Waring Again Even Though The Biggest Lesson Against It Right In Front There Eyes And Has Made There Lives A Living Hell Since Birth, If That Dosnt Fit The Line "War Never Changes" I Dont Know What Does. The Radio In New Vegas Does svck Tho, All Old Country Tunes And No Hannk Williams Sr.? About 30 Elvis References and No Elvis Songs? The Only Inkspots Song I Dont Like? Dean Martain And Sinatra was pretty cool tho. But I Read Somewhere Sinatr Recorded Blue Moon In The 60s So It Dont Really Fit The Time Line. What It Needs Is Some 50s Rock N Roll.

This not a "lets hate FO3" post in the NV boards,

In fact, this post sounds more of "why FO3 is better than NV"

I dont see any thread that began something against FO3

Most of the post here was something like

I want my money back

Bethesda big mistake

The game sux

FO3 is better

Lets rants

As someone said, the Courier is YOUR character, not what some designer decided what HE wants YOU to play.



Oh really? Lets begin ...

"I'm looking for my father. Middle-aged guy. Maybe you've seen him?

So were exactly is the motivation for that? what I always get is a character that loves his/her father very much because I am not allowed to not care less about him.

Leading to Project Purity, I understand it might be a good thing if you dont mind waiting a few decades, hope that "Steel Be With You" remains at such and of course you give a damn about the place in order to actually want to help that place ... or you are a idiot and go spike it with FEV were then the joke is on you, in fact what IS the motivation (besides having a intelligence lower that 4) of doing so when you AGREE with fixing the Purifier before Eden decides to gamble on your character doing his bidding and it seems there were plenty of people that never played Fallout 2 ...



To start, it does give the character a motivation to search his/her assailants, unlike the Lone Wanderer that did it because "He/She Loves His/Her Father".



Sawyer mentioned that initially you could at any point call it quits by going to the Mojave Outpost and pick a dialog option that was "I want to go back to NCR Territory" ... too bad it got cut.
So New Vegas did allowed to QUIT and the credits would roll but does not and guess what also does not allow you to quit? Fallout 3.

Also UNLIKE Fallout 3 were you really ARE doing it because of the "Kindness of your Heart", New Vegas puts you in a position were YOU have something to gain ... House, NCR and the Legion will ALL reward you greatly for your help.



Not as much as FORCED SACRIFICED BECAUSE ALL THE RADIATION IMMUNE FOLLOWERS DECIDED TO BE *****! and that is the Good Ending, You can say "oh wait, not going to die" and see it blow up or just send Miss Goody Two-Shoes in there to die (that makes you join your followers in the ***** club).

Since this General I cannot spoil the endings that I dont think are unrewarding.



Like he have a choice, also he tells you just what HE wants with a great deal of spin so you can help you because you know ... its kinda hard for him to do it himself (and that is why he needed Benny).



What? House is a control freak that enforces ABSOLUTE CONTROL over New Vegas ? *shock* Why? I never ...
COME ON! Just because you could not see what type of person is he does not mean the rest did not .



WHAT? YOU CANNOT MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY?
You know what? You have to compromise as you CANNOT save everyone and perfect solutions do not exist ... that just shows how better is New Vegas as you are FORCED to make a decision instead of looking what is the "right" decision so everyone have a happy ending.



Because following the Big-Giant-Robot-That-Blows-And-Kills-Everything-In-Its-Path is so much better .... I remind you, this is FO3 vs FO:NV.

How many trhead like that existed before my registration?

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Ha! Too true. At least in NV it was YOU who set a lot of the events in motion. Liberty Prime was impressive, but it sure didn't make my character much of a hero. Liberty Prime was all "lol lemme kill all that for you, but i'll leave the weenie human boss for ya, how's that sound?"

fo3 felt special it felt like humanity was struggiling and dark .The map had more accessable land than fonv as a third of the map around jacobstown is non accessable. And enegy weps n explosives r aids in fonv. The main story was more emotional when ur dad died it felt emotional and fonv doesnt have a side quest that is as much a moral dilema as power of the atom its hard to decide the future of megaton. yes fonv is a technically better game but fallout 3 had the ambiece a post apocalytic game should have and the start was far better in fo3 ant the music was awsome.fonv great gametechnically betterthan fo3.but fo3 felt special and i felt like i was playing one of the best games of all time n three dawwwwwwggggggggg.

the battle 4 hoover dam was dam [censored] at least liberty prime was cool all u do is kill ceasers legion guys n gt confronted buy the ncr guy (cant remember his name)the ending was fonv weakest part out rverything in the game and it was so hyped.

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Please tell me English isn't your first language... :unsure2:

It's quite hard to type on ps3 as u can't see what ur writing.Oh by the way eat my meat [censored] bag.

1. That's no excuse, as it's hard to type on a Wii as well, yet I still have the patience and the grammar necessary to forge coherent sentences.

2. There's no need to be rude about things, my good chum. I was only questioning why your writing was so off in a comical fashion. You're lucky I'm a nice fellow and won't report you for such a petty insult. :nono:

I'm thinking this thread has about run its course...

yes but i had already typed 20 mins of text then it vanished for no reason so i went bear grills at the tv and made a rough retry of what i typed.But it was still rathe d oche baggish of you.

Indeed. I really hope it fades away. This shall be my last post on this thread.


In that case, I must apologize as I did not mean for it to come out that way. As stated, I merely questioned your statements in a comical fashion and did not mean for them to make me seem like a [censored]. Again, I apologize.

Apology accepted? :icecream: