Yes I appreciate the things that have been improved (graphics, character models, dungeon variety, puzzles, dialogue in real time, etc) I think too many of what has been good in the previous installments (variety of weapons, skills, spells, attributes; compelling guild questlines, healthy journal that actually works and gives you the info when you need it) have been cut or altered. I wouldn't say Skyrim is a step back in its entirety, but the RPG factor is clearly dwarfed by the emphasis on action and instant gratification while the true meaningful choices with gamechanging consequences are still close to zero.

Actually I (personally) think that the UI and Menus are very streamlined and "clean" looking. I like everything about Skyrim much more than I liked Oblivion.

i agree with the other people here who said that Oblivion is the step backwards, not Skyrim. Skyrim has raised the bar very high indeed for this series, and I can't wait for the TES VI because you know it'll be on the next-gen systems.

Nostalgia makes people say some funny stuff.

Agreed.

Hi there Kal-El of the House of El! How have you been doing? Truly good to see youy!


Well, I find it ironic whenever someone complains about this kind of threads being abundant but they fail to notice the apologetic comeback - which they perpetuate - is as frequent. I don't think people who have gripes about Skyrim get into conference calls and decide to take turns on posting a collective consensual thread representative of all the complaints. One poster comes here, he complains about this or that, another comes in later and complains about that, this and whatever, and yet another comes in and decides to post his personal view of why Skyrim fails in this or that department. Your perception of these seemingly un-coordinated atomized actionss? The proverbial "Peole love to complain". OT, I haven't played Oblivion but have watched a number of youtube videos. The landscape does appear to be lushier, but, then again, it's supposed to be that way. I wouldn't write down "landscape" on my to-revamp list for the next TES instalment. I think it's one of SKyrim's major achievements. Dungeons feel far far more repetitive.

Well, I disagree.

By the Hist , Skyrim is the best so far , at least for me.

Today I played 16 hours straight , Went from Solitude all the way to Winterhold through the Pale.
It's amazing , all the ice , all the cold , it was really dangerous as I am using the Cold mod , after that I went from Winterhold to Riften , it was a really long journey but seeing every single rock placed perfectly made the ride satisfying.

Every single hold has it's own uniqueness which takes a big portion of time to explore fully , Skyrim is the best !

This. Spot on.

By the Hist, another Argonian! Hssssssssss! Skyrim may be good , but the best game will be when we go home to the Hist!

Yes, because Cyrodiil is supposed to be mostly deciduous countryside. Skyrim is supposed to be tundra.


Oh my goodness. So you're complaining about a landscape that is supposed to be barren, harsh, and cold. Next time I go to Canada, I'll make sure to complain to the local barrister about "the lack of pretty forests".

To me, Skyrim does have its own beauty, despite its harshenss. It's like a friend who comes across as mean, but once you get to know him or her, there's a sweetness behind that mean front.


Oh my god. Play Oblivion if you're having problems with Skyrim! Me? I'm glad Skyrim is the way it is. Keep on doing a good job at landscapes, Bethesda...you're the best.

Gosh OP, I have to wonder if you are just trolling since everything you said is the exact opposite of the truth IMO.

I admit I miss the Elven ruins though, but that's about it.

By the hist what a Argonian invasion

Yes I really want next TES to take place in Black Marsh

When my beloved Dunmer get their revenge for the cowardly attack by the lizards after two natural disasters?

Absolutely.

lmao

I can totally agree with the OP take on the interface, but I don't see how anyone can honestly consider Skyrim's dungeons cookie cutter. Especially compared to previous titles in this series.

There may be other games with more unique dungeons and that are less linear, but Skyrim's dungeons are the best I've seen in TES so far.

I can see how the interface, factions and quest lines in general are a big letdown.

Good luck with that, because Hist knows, you'll need it but I doubt they would make the game that doesn't end well for the home population.

My Argonian ( named Viles ) is actually an Imperial war hero and came to Skyrim to retake the land for the Empire side.

No. Not even a little.

Morrowind.

Their Triumverate of Gods that had kept them safe for millenia, two of them are dead. Society is in a shambles because of it...

Naw, they wouldn't repeat that...

lol

The forests in OB did feel more like...well...Forest to me compared to the forest landscapes in Skyrim. Probably because it was the only kind of landscape in OB.

I'd say Skyrim is a step backwards in certain things but definitely a step forwards in others (Even though Oblivion remains my fav). I think the faction quests have gone downhill in length and complexity, and quests in general are now mostly 'follow this arrow on your compass to x cave, retrieve something and go back to the quest giver.' I didn't really find any of the quests particularly memorable. I'd say character development has also taken a turn for the worse, as I miss not being able to out run people, be much physically stronger than anyone else, or be able to leap over the heads of enemies like a friggin' ninja.

On the other hand, I'd say Skyrim is a massive step forwards in the variety of dungeons, caves and ruins as opposed to oblivion. Combat and stealth is also much more exciting with the killcams, and spellcasting looks amazing. Another thing I'm glad of in skyrim is how you encounter more NPC's in the wilderness; it makes the world feel much more alive than Cyrodiil.

The environment IS kind of bland. Once you saw a piece of land from the top of a mountain, you saw them all.

Snow, snow, snow, trees, snow, bears, wolves, snow, snow, snow, mountains, snow, rocks and some more rocks.

Add my name to the list of folks who agree with this sentence.

When I read OP's post I was thinking, did he play the same game as I played?
I remember Oblivion, the first time I loaded up, the escape out of the prison, finding the first elven ruin thinking "oh my god this is awesome". The problem was that feeling faded soon once I realized how extremely similar most of the dungeons were. Saying that skyrim feels like copy and paste where Oblivion felt like well planned dungeons leads me to believe OP is wearing some heavily rose tinted glasses of nostalgia. Oblivion was a game that suffered from generic dungeons and a lot of copy and paste dungeons. By all means it wasn't a bad game it was fun, but Skyrim isn't a step back compared to Oblivion. Looking at the world in Skyrim it feels a lot more alive then Oblivion. Just how fishes swim the river and jumps the waterfalls, insects over water, more wildlife and overall a more dark and gritty world.

Skyrim isn't perfect in all aspects, they should have added more rpg features like a economy that felt alive and that you could change by your actions. More option on how to solve quests, more consequences and more guilds that would work against eachother etc. It is a step in the right direction with regard to the world design and such, but I would like that next game or future dlc adds to the NPC's and world mechanics to make it feel more alive and real overall.

I have to disagree i love the landsape of skyrim!
Love to just climb a mountain and enyoy the view.Love to explore the province,i didnt like cyrodiil that much,but sure it was great but skyrim is amazing.Also i miss vvardenfell