Just like bolding or italics, except with the word "spoiler" instead of the "b" or "i". Does that make sense?

EDIT: Also, regardless of my disagreeing with a number of people in the thread, thanks for being polite about spoilers. That always annoys me.

Sadly no it doesn't, and i hate it when people spoil things, might aswell extend the courtesy not to spoil things for them either.

Edit: I mean i tried to bold but there is no [bold] words go here [bold] text like in some forums, though that's what you meant.

Test post.

Okay, try this:

[ S P O I L E R ] insert spoilers here [ / S P O I L E R ]

Just type that and remove the spaces in the brackets and you should be good.

Hmmm. Yes. A game with a main quest. Shacking. Outrageous! DISGUSTING!




Really? Just... really?

Are Bethesda suuposed to cater to every single play style or RP style that could be possibly concieved by every single person on the face of the planet? Is that what you think they should do? Do you feel this is a reasonable expectation?

Some of these complaints are becoming ridiculous.

Yay thank you, anyhow sorry for derailing the topic.

Did i ever say Bethesda?

Its the point of the game. It pushes you towards it because that's the MQ.

Exactly. Every RPG is gonna have a main quest, just like every pen-and-paper RPG is gonna have a main quest.

This is the Cheats, Hints, and Spoilers forum - so if you can't make spoiler tags work it doesn't really matter. However, in the editor icons, the 3rd from left is "Special BB Code" - click on that, and you'll get a dropdown box where you can select Spoiler.

[And for the OP: I did the MQ on one toon. I've got 14 other toons I'm playing, and NONE of them are bothering with the MQ. Or the civil war.]

Was in general.

you dont have to progress the main quest if you dont want.

Ah. Hmmm. CCNA must be off this weekend. S/he normally posts a big "general forum don't spoil" post then states it's being moved. I don't read general, so unless a mod posts that it's being moved, I don't have any way of knowing.

After you escape Helgen, no one forces you to do anything. You could scarf off into the woods around Whiterun and live like a hermit if you want...might be a bit boring, but it's do-able.

Ah it's fine, I was just telling you the reason i asked.

Also it seems no one reads the op, we all know you can do this, it's specifically for quests that force you into it, that's we're talking about.

Oh. Well, I can see some of that, to some extent. While I do the main quest, I wouldn't necessarily want other quests forcing me to do it at a certain pace...but then, admittedly, the Civil War is clearly the #2 quest line for the game - and could easily have been the main quest line for a TES game. So I can see the logic of tying the two together.

If you haven't done the "prequel quest" (talking to Alvor or Gerdur, which sends you to Baalgruf, which gets you sent for the Dragonstone) then in the close run, you won't have any quest lines that will force you to "become" the Dragonborn in fact as well as in theory. Now, if you want to screw around with the civil war questlines, I believe that will no longer be true - but a bit of reading on the wiki or this forum should give you that information prior to making any decision.

There IS no way to do either the main questline or either of the civil war questlines WITHOUT accepting being the Dragonborn though. At least, not right now. Once the CK comes out and the modders get busy, I would expect to see various changes to that. For those of us on pc that is.... for console users, no *shrug*.

actually tbh it is ONLY that one quest where he is annouced dragonborn that cannot be bypassed, EVERY other MQ quest can be bypassed. Sothe Op can be correct in saying that the game coulda catered to his play style if it didnt have that one quest in it. had to do some searching but ya, he coulda played how he wanted to play IF they didnt force that ONE quest on him during the civil war line.

I think they had to force it on ya because i think thye call ya dragonborn quite often during the quest line......wait amin didnt they also give ya names thye called ya by that woulda fix the whole "we need them to do the dragonborn quest or else what is the head people gonna call him/her?"...i dunno

to me i see the Op having a valid point because there was no raisen that the quest had to forced onto you, and it woulda expanded the game more for people who rp and just quit after they played and did what they wanted to do.

You can't do the civil war quests without being forced to help the Jarl of Whiterun with the MQ. So no, you can't just ignore the MQ. You have to ignore both the MQ and the civil war. Why they're entangled, I have no idea. Just some more crap that Todd lied about.

Skyrim is an RPG. It was marketed in a way that suggests we're able to do anything we'd like and play however we'd like. Fine, I can understand that it's impossible to allow such things.. but why do they lie about all that instead of just coming clean? It wouldn't have been nearly as bad if they had told us Skyrim isn't as free as was implied.

What exactly is this lie?

Ummmm...rather a silly issue then isn't it. Don't play the game if you don't like the storyline. That was my point...that there are certain parameters required to do certain things, but if you don't want to do certain things, then you can live the life of a hermit. You don't have to do those quests...

Oh, I hardly consider my toons hermits. There's a bajillion OTHER things to do in Skyrim, just as with every other TES game.

do most games allow u to ignore the main story and get far? im surprised somone would think that...

Just watch all the interviews. Todd lied about a lot of things, especially the capabilities of their Radiant system (just like with Oblivion). On the back of the box your disc comes in, in reads, "The legendary freedom of choice, storytelling, and adventure of The Elder Scrolls in realized like never before."

There is no freedom of choice. The storytelling is heavily scripted and linear. What adventure? You're give an omniscient compass that tells you exactly where to go. It's all [censored]. Yay, we have awesome graphics (.. for a TES game..) and dragons, but all of those other things were already done in previous TES games, and were actually better. We have limited factions, and we're railroaded into joining most of them (there are ways to circumvent that, but you aren't made aware of that until after it's too late). We have limited quests where our choices actually make a difference, and even less that provide more than one path to completion.

The MQ and civil war quests are no different. You can't do one without affecting another, and unless you're actively involved in both, that might not be a good thing. You haven't even joined a side, yet you're negotiating terms between them? You want nothing to do with dragons after Helgen, but you can't complete your civil war mission without the fact that you're Dragonborn being shoved down your throat? Yeah, I can see Bethesda made Skyrim accommodating to those who wish to roleplay. Bravo, Todd Howard. Bravo.