Why do they force you into becoming Dragonborn? : V

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:04 pm

*DO NOT READ IF YOU DON'T LIKE SPOILERS!*

Name: Ezio Auditore (Forgive me, I like Assassin's Creed)

Race: Imperial

Age: 20

Spoiler

So far my character started off as a simple farmer/hunter from Cyrodiil, who didn't like how Ulfric was trying to divide the Empire in Skyrim.

He came to Skyrim to help the Empire put down the rebel threat.

"United we stand, divided we fall"

Before he joined the Imperial Legion, he felt as though he needed to hone his skills before he could be used effectively.

He joined the Thieves Guild in Riften, to hone his stealth skills.

He went on to become the Leader of the Thieves Guild and bring it back to it's former self.

He then went on to join the Dark Brotherhood to hone his skills as an assassin.

One thing led to another and he found himself as the Leader of yet another Guild.

Having now honed his skills in stealth and assassination, he was now ready to help the Empire put down Ulfric Stormcloak's rebellion.

...and this is where I'm at.

Spoiler

The game forces you to help the Jarl of Whiterun with the dragon problem...

I have just kill the dragon in Whiterun and immediately went straight to the Jarl.

Asked him about the letter and he still says that even through I killed the dragon, he wants proof of it being dead.

Only way to do this is by going to the dragon and absorbing it's soul.

Basically Beth. is forcing him to be the dragonborn and there is no way around it.

This is the only way to move on with the Imperial Legion quest-line.

I think that it is incredible lame that they force you into the whole "dragonborn" buisness.

Don't you think that it is enough that the dragon is dead? But oh no, he wants PROOF !?!

So stupid.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:22 pm

because they did not want to spend the time not to.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:16 am

I was under the impression this was pretty much implied since day 1. Most TES games follow this general concept I believe.

Personally I don't want to play an average Joe in my video games, but that's just my opinion.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:05 am

Gl playing a game based on dragons without having a way to kill and/or absorb their souls.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:10 am

Gl playing a game based on dragons without having a way to kill and/or absorb their souls.

i didn't want anything to do with dragons on my 3rth playthrough, but there are many other quest that force you to start to be dragonborn, options never hurt, they are just harder to implement.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:49 pm

Well, when that Tood guy said that you are able to play how you want, do what you want, that there are so many choices and this and that...you would think that you would have the choice in wether you want your character to know if he was the dragonborn or not.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:25 pm

Well, when that Tood guy said that you are able to play how you want, do what you want, that there are so many choices and this and that...you would think that you would have the choice in wether you want your character to know if he was the dragonborn or not.

Todd says a lot of things. :dry:

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:14 pm

i didn't want anything to do with dragons on my 3rth playthrough, but there are many other quest that force you to start to be dragonborn, options never hurt, they are just harder to implement.

Spoiler

It is really simple, just do not do the main quest. They do not force you to go to Bleak Falls Barrow. I get the quest and leave it there in my journal now. I do not do the main quest anymore. As long as you do not get the Dragonstone, you won't have to deal with dragons. If you want a house it is also simple. Go to Riften and do a few easy fetch quests. When you find the Argonian Woman that needs a healing potion. Give it to her and the topic of Bad Skooma will come up. Go to the Jarl and do 2 lousy quests and she will offer you the House. Now you no longer have to start the main quest to get a home or deal with idiotic dragon spawns. HAVE FUN :smile:

I also have yet to run across any quests that force you to have to be dragonborn or be doing the main quest. There are a few small side quests, but other then that nothing really that significant IMHO.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:16 pm

I do hate this, but i believe there are mods to bypass this little bit of... thing, basically it just replaces what the jarl of whiterun would say/do with whichever jarl takesover whiterun and it makes it so you never have to become the dragonborn.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:46 am

...so you guys want to be NORMAL? whats the fun in being a regular person,you would rather be a simple bard?or a shopkeep? a blacksmith?
yeah being told its your destiny to save the world with a unique power of old
then are able to go off and be an assassin,a thief,a mage

or did you really want to be a mage or something that just hears about some "dragonborn" saving the world
while you loop through a day of menial tasks

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:03 pm

Spoiler

It is really simple, just do not do the main quest. They do not force you to go to Bleak Falls Barrow. I get the quest and leave it there in my journal now. I do not do the main quest anymore. As long as you do not get the Dragonstone, you won't have to deal with dragons. If you want a house it is also simple. Go to Riften and do a few easy fetch quests. When you find the Argonian Woman that needs a healing potion. Give it to her and the topic of Bad Skooma will come up. Go to the Jarl and do 2 lousy quests and she will offer you the House. Now you no longer have to start the main quest to get a home or deal with idiotic dragon spawns. HAVE FUN :smile:

To do the imperial/stormcloak quests it forces you to become the dragon born.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:32 am

...so you guys want to be NORMAL? whats the fun in being a regular person,you would rather be a simple bard?or a shopkeep? a blacksmith?
yeah being told its your destiny to save the world with a unique power of old
then are able to go off and be an assassin,a thief,a mage

or did you really want to be a mage or something that just hears about some "dragonborn" saving the world
while you loop through a day of menial tasks

Maybe it's the way they want to play the game, quit your [censored]ing.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:15 pm

But why in the world is this a complaint? In Oblivion you were gonna get the Amulet, like it or not. These games do have a plot, after all. You can ignore it, sure, but you're basically asking for there not to even be a main quest.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:23 pm

You do realize the entire concept of the game is to eventually deal with Alduin, right?

You should feel lucky that every quest doesn't require you to deal with Alduin first.

I do understand where you are coming from, but Skyrim is about dealing with Alduin... not about some lame-o running around fixing guilds.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:22 pm

Maybe it's the way they want to play the game, quit your [censored]ing.

Well, maybe he shouldn't do the quests that require him to do the Main Quest then?

I would like to play a janitor, but there isn't a guild to do so without becoming a Dragonborn...

My life, she is ruined.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:03 pm

Because... I really don't know how else to put this...

That's the main storyline?

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:36 pm

Well, maybe he shouldn't do the quests that require him to do the Main Quest then?

I would like to play a janitor, but there isn't a guild to do so without becoming a Dragonborn...

My life, she is ruined.

Roleplayers sometimes have a specific story they'd like to do, and the only quest that requires the main one is the war, and if someones rp has to do with that, what their [censored]?
What im saying is it's not to hard to cater to the people who want to do this, like they already have with mods out there.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:20 am

Well, maybe he shouldn't do the quests that require him to do the Main Quest then?

I would like to play a janitor, but there isn't a guild to do so without becoming a Dragonborn...

My life, she is ruined.

It's all that durned Todd guy! He said I could play any way I wanted, and I wanted to play a janitor! But while they have brooms, there's no sweeping! I can't even equip the damn thing! I BEEN BE-TRAYED BY TH' DURN BETHESDA BETRAYERS! LIFE JUST ISN'T WORTH LIVING!

We should start a petition to get Bethesda to create a Janitor Class...once they add classes back in, of course.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:00 am

...so you guys want to be NORMAL? whats the fun in being a regular person,you would rather be a simple bard?or a shopkeep? a blacksmith?
yeah being told its your destiny to save the world with a unique power of old
then are able to go off and be an assassin,a thief,a mage

or did you really want to be a mage or something that just hears about some "dragonborn" saving the world
while you loop through a day of menial tasks

Not everyone wants to be Mr. Popular, if you know what I mean.

Some people like simple lives.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:59 am

You do realize the entire concept of the game is to eventually deal with Alduin, right?

You should feel lucky that every quest doesn't require you to deal with Alduin first.

I do understand where you are coming from, but Skyrim is about dealing with Alduin... not about some lame-o running around fixing guilds.

yet that's one of the worst, for me the best part of skyrim was exploring and having nothing to do with the main quest.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:06 pm

To do the imperial/stormcloak quests it forces you to become the dragon born.

I usually don't do those till last anyway, they both annoy the h**l out of me...lol

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:17 am

You can ignore the MQ. Don't talk to Balgruuf, or just don't get the Dragonstone.

Problem solved.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:21 pm

You can't just pick to not be Dragonborn. You are either Dragonborn or you are not. A concept similar to being the Nerevar incarnate of Morrowind.
Such choice is before the gameplay and hell, even before your character is born. Even then, you'd need to persuade Papa Aka to just make you
into an average Joe. But at any rate, Dragonborn is better than some silly pick-up blessing like 'Dragonsworn', just leave that to those dragon priests.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:14 am

Spoiler

It is really simple, just do not do the main quest. They do not force you to go to Bleak Falls Barrow. I get the quest and leave it there in my journal now. I do not do the main quest anymore. As long as you do not get the Dragonstone, you won't have to deal with dragons. If you want a house it is also simple. Go to Riften and do a few easy fetch quests. When you find the Argonian Woman that needs a healing potion. Give it to her and the topic of Bad Skooma will come up. Go to the Jarl and do 2 lousy quests and she will offer you the House. Now you no longer have to start the main quest to get a home or deal with idiotic dragon spawns. HAVE FUN :smile:

I also have yet to run across any quests that force you to have to be dragonborn or be doing the main quest. There are a few small side quests, but other then that nothing really that significant IMHO.

But if you accept the quest, don't do it and come back later you can't talk to the Jarl until you get the dragon stone even if you have to talk to him for a different quest.

» Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:37 am

How do you do the Spoiler thing? Wanted to say something but i don't want to spoil anything..