True, there are a number of perks that are pretty pointless, especially if you plan on offsetting it further with enchantments. It's best to really think about where those perks should be going, what would really help you. You can afford the "luxury" perks this way, like decaps and bow slow-mo/zoom.

Oh, thank you. Divines bless your kind heart!

Single players game should let you have your own experience. I don't believe the glitch should be removed. People who think it SHOULD be, are the silly ones.

Most people do the glitch and regret it anyway because it ruins the game, let them learn from that.

You can dupe armor with mannequins, I've got 6 ebony mails and every few days a mannequin in Hjerim produces another one. It's really a bizarre situation I stumbled into.

Wrong!

A SP game HAS to be balanced and have no exploits if it wants to be good!
What is the purpose of the game if I don't do my best in order to beat it!?
Where is the challenge?
Where is the excitement?
Where is the pleausre and pride of me beating the game if I don't do my best?
Did you ever beat Contra without cheats in your life?

Explotis remove challenge and therefore ruin the game.
[censored] that BS about deciding to use an exploit or not.
You wish to cheat?
Fine!
Use cheats!
But let other players enjoy the game to fullest without it having 'legal' cheats in it!

Again... TETRIS!

So you people who say crap like 'It's your game, it's SP, it's herp, derp, durrr...' and similar lunch that opinion to a center of the Sun because it svcks!

Like the PC's edition of the 'legal' cheat system? lol sometimes I wish the Xbox had the ability to just be able to type in a code for all the gold in Skyrim... Just cause... However like the Oghma Infinium cheat, its up to the PC user to use the infinate number of cheats available to them...


I tried the mannequin cheat/glitch and must not have done that correctly, after I fashioned my Dragon Scale to Ledgendary, I didn't really care anymore lol..

One thing it won't dupe is upgraded equipment. You'll just get a second set of unimproved apparel. Enchantments will remain the same, though.

That's our point, pretty much. No sense in punishing everyone else for some enforced ideals of lunacy.

Have I beaten Contra without cheating? Hell no, I haven't. I cheated every time, and loved it.

What was it?

up up down down left right left right b a select start? 30 lives?

No, I think it's iddqd.

Don't know what Contra is, but you are trying to force your own opinions on others. Not everyone plays the game the same way. For me personally, once I beat the main quests and do most of the side quests, the game loses its luster. Being able to use exploits like this allow me to simply explore and have fun without worrying about dying every two minutes. It is my choice and how I want to play. I would never think about forcing someone to play the way I play. I would be ticked if this exploit was unavoidable. In other words, you had to level up to 81 the moment you read the book. But that isn't the case. It is the choice of the player. What I do in my game is my choice and your opinion or the opinion of others has no bearing in that.

Ha your thinking is so flawed, i could write a page of rebuttals but i don't debate with angry people because they're not using their brain when emotions are in control.
Think what you want but skyrim is 1 of those beautiful games that let you choose what you do so choose what you wish...I choose to challenge myself so i dont use the best stuff in game or use cheats but it cool that it's a option if i want to use them.
I can't remember if i beat contra but i know i would rock that and tetris...nes games were harder because timing was everything.

This Book Glitch should stay mainly because of the patches.

When ever you get a new patch, you basicly need to remake your characters, right? If you are like me, and have a main character, then this will be very annoying. You see, I'll use the glitch to get my level back up to 81 when I remake my main character. When I first created my main, it took 1 month to get to level 81 and I NEVER want to do that again and so I wish for this glitch to stay. Actually, let's count it as a Cheat, not a glitch.

Bethesda should put their attention on Quest Gliches instead of ruining the fun and removing this cheat.

It's not a cheat, it's a glitch, and it should be fixed.

It's like saying no more TGM in console. I couldn't careless.

yeah thats what i did a few times in my past games it can be handy too create a new char too the level where you left your old char off
but i must admit for my own playtrus i sence once i hit a certain level with powergrinding and thats somethingi like my interest drops
and mostly start a new cha again lol

in anyway its up too the person who plays a game how hee or she wants too play it if its not hurting other players like a multiplayer game

There are far more important things to fix than this. Much of the game is about exploration and finding a glitch ..., well, it does not bite the concept really.

The fact of the matter is; this is a glitch you have to look up, and actually do a little bit of work to achieve. You can not just stumble across it, and all of a sudden be upset because your character just jumped to level 81. It's my game, my play style. If I want to create a single character for god like abilities, then I can. This is not a bug that effects quests, game engine, NPC's, etc. Get over it.

I'm counting it as a Cheat and it is very useful for players on the PS3 and 360 to remake their mains. Seriously, I HATED remaking my Oblivion guy over and over again because I keep doing something wrong... I got annoyed with leveling everything up to 100...... I don't want to do that again in Skyrim. I think Bethesda is going to leave the cheat there for this reason.

It's probably worth pointing out that topics like this tend to be very obvious troll and flame bait.

Especially when the points made are concerning anything that is ultimately up to the player's own choice to exploit or not for his own game. The only difference between taking the time to only level up a couple of skills exclusively through play and leveling them up through an exploit is the amount of time taken, while both courses of action end in the same result.

Things that break the functionality of the game need to be fixed, not exploits that are largely up to player choice and the player even knowing about it in the first place, in order for the game to be "good."

/rolleyes

Anyone who says it needs to be fixed is just silly. I have made a character that uses no glitches or exploits whatsoever I wanted to start another character but I don't want to spend the million and a half hours I did on my first just to have a character that's good at everything to mess around with. Go ahead and call me stupid for saying this but I am right no matter how many people say I'm wrong. It is my game I can do what I damn well please because it doesn't affect anybody but myself. Don't think of saying I'm not a true RPG fan because that is just a half cocked way of trying to win an argument that doesn't even exist. I've been around since Morrowind and have bought the original games and the GotY editions for both Xbox and PC as well as the special edition box of Skyrim. I am a true fan I just like to have fun too.

Heres my view on it:

I dont care either way. But... Its cool that they dont fix it. Simply because YOU (the player) dont HAVE to use it. Use it or dont use it. Thats your choice.

And personally, i might use it for one reason only. Pickpocket.
My char at the moment, is a "good" guy. No crimes. And to raise pp, you have to pick pockets. Lol. And steal. I dont want that on my record...

So once my combat skills are all 100, all my skills except pp, will be maxed. Then, if i decide to, i will use it to level pp.

This is hillarious, an obvious bug that should be fixed...but it allows the player to cheat up their skills...so these guys want to leave it in. No wonder every game I play today is so mindlessly easy, you kids want absolutely no challenge in your games today. It doesn't matter if you don't have to use it or not, it's not supposed to be there and should be removed.

That's just silly. Why do you care what any other person does in the privacy of her gaming life in a SPMR game? If you want the game perfectly balanced you can probably find mods to fix it your way. I could care less than nothing about the balance in any game - SPMR OR MMO - as long as the game is fun for me.

Sheesh. Kids like YOU have some real issues....

What part of "it's not supposed to be in the game and should be removed" do you not understand?

Hon, what I understand is that you have control-freak issues. If you want to do that, go play an MMO.