What's a marigold round? :unsure:

It's a bunch of flowers growing in a perfect circle.

A common playground attraction made of rubber gloves.

That actually sound pretty creepy!

I don't believe in ghosts, but I sure as hell believe in satan, God, and all.

Reason? I was once watching a show about the codex gigas, or the devil's bible. When they showed the picture of satan, I felt like the temperature rose by around 100 degrees in a second, and I felt someone right next to me, I could almost feel his breath. I could hardly breath. Then, I silently muttered, "Jesus," to myself around three times, and slowly, the heat went away. The weird thing is that my dad, who was sitting next to me, didn't feel a thing. I do know that the devil himself was in hat room, and that when I muttered the name of Jesus, he left.

Anybody heard about, I think it's called that anyway, the God helmet?

It uses, I think, electro magentic waves that manipulate certain areas of the brain. People who have worn it said they felt the "presence" of other beings around them.

Your air conditioning is broken.

Hehe, that's a lot more likely at least than the presence of a demon that nobody else seemed to notice.

I call hot flash.

Merry-go-failed, apparently.

The other place I went to was an abandoned hotel that was built in the 40's. Its due for demolition so the place has been gated off but hoodlums and what have you have managed to break in, bust down some doors and just make the place look so sketchy.

Its weird to walk into a motel from a bottom room at night and just open the room door and be in a dark hallway, especially when it looks like something out of Fallout 3.

My friend's girlfriend took pictures. Maybe i'll link em, when she uploads them.

I don't believe in the paranormal, and I sure as hell won't until there is plausible evidence.

Whenever I have gotten scared/spooked, i comfort myself with the thought that it's just the cause of a random string of events.


I approve of the scientific approach, and wanting to believe, in paranormality. But actually believing it? Leave that to the children, I find it immature and unreasonable.

I require a certain amount of scientific evidence before I 'believe' in something. And I'm always willing to accept I'm wrong if stronger evidence to the contrary comes along.

So no. I don't.

EDIT: Actually, I'm going to expand on this. The 'paranormal' - is humanity's explanation for stuff they are too stupid/lazy to attempt to come up with any rational response. As is relig- wait, let's not go there.

I've sat through a few of those 'Most Haunted' type programs, and it always baffles me when they get these 'experts' in with all of this ghost hunting equipment, flash it around and say 'we're picking up an unusually high level of electromagnetism in this room, it's haunted'. Why the heck would ghosts have an unusually high level of electromagnetism? This is a classic case of stupid-science (for further examples, google creationism) - observing something unusual, then saying that something else is the cause of it, without having any evidence to link the two.

As for those people that claim to have seen a ghost, or have had a supernatural experience - guess what. So have I. I saw a man's disembodied head floating around my room and trying to talk to me when I was six. I saw a strange woman in a white dress in my back garden when I was twelve. My conclusions? It was early morning when I saw the head - it may have been sleepiness combined with the remnants of some dream. The woman in the dress? It was dark, I was in a state of heightened tension after watching something scary, I saw something outside vaguely human-shaped and my over-excited brain turned it into something bizarre.

I'm not going to say outrightly that ghosts don't exist. That there's more to this universe than what we see in front of us. But I'm damn well not going to claim that these things are real until I see some real evidence. And there hasn't been a shred of it yet.

Keep your ghosts, keep your spirits, keep your astrology, keep your gods, keep your other supernatural hokum. I'll stick with science. It may not have all the answers (yet) but it doesn't claim to. But at least it doesn't make up fantasy to fill in the gaps.

I never altogether disbelieve anything, in theory, but in practice (and for all purposes besides philosophical point-scoring) - no. Gods, demons, ghosts, they're all suspiciously human and decidedly unproven. I love fantasy as much as anyone, but I don't confuse it with reality.

In fact I regularly tempt fate (gee I hope posting this doesn't cause me to die tonight..!), confront night terrors, try my best to insult the deities of major religions, and walk around alone in the dark (...). And I'm always hoping someone will offer me a large sum of money for daring to stay overnight in a haunted house/castle... because, since ghosts don't exist, it'd be very easy money. :goodjob:

It's very closely tied to God, all this stuff. Ghosts, demon's, angels, god all of it.

I do not believe what I don't see, so far I have not seen a ghost, a demon, a angel or any of the bazillion gods humanity has created to explain their existence. And I'll never see one either.

It's one in the same - supernatural stuff made up to fill in the gaps science hasn't answered yet.




Not the best turn of phrase - after all you can't see an electron, but there's enough solid evidence to confidently say that they exist.

That's not what I meant :wink_smile: To go to extreme, yes, technically I just said that if I'd be blind, I wouldn't believe in anything. :rofl:

I know what you meant - just trying to stop the ghosty people from picking your argument apart.

Yeah, I do. But I'm not very partial to talking about it nor do I really have any definitive ideas on the mechanics behind it. Gonna be honest with you. If there's such things as ghosts and spirits there's got to be a rational system for describing them and quantifying them on some scale. Presumably we just haven't yet figured out how such things work.

This. Sometimes I end up accidentally freaking myself out at night to the point where I don't even want to walk down the hall. I look down the hall and I could swear I feel like something is watching me. Also during those times it is much easier for me to perceive random things as something else, like if I look over at a pile of clothes and it scares the [censored] out of me cause it looks like a face for a moment. I learned in psychology that the brain has the power to make things up based on what is implied, even if its not true. That's how a lot of optical illusions work; its a trick. In this case it would be a state of mind that is letting your brain make these things up.

Take the OP's story for example. Lets say he knocked on a house door instead of a factory door. If you saw lights and heard shuffling around, what is the first thing that would come to your mind? It's a person. In their house. But, this was a scary abandoned factory. Chances are the op and his friends were a little creeped out in the first place, so it would be easy to attribute the shuffling and the lights to something much scarier. As far as that goes, it was obvious it was someone in the factory, the question is what were they doing in there.

I don't believe in poltergeists, or demonic possession type things, but spirits or exo-physical beings I can believe are real. If there are such things, I don't think they're physical or can even influence our plane outside of weird encounters with them at times. I've had some weird experiences that make me skeptical to believe there could be otherworldly things out there, even if science hasn't proven it yet. Science still hasn't found everything, so the chance is real that there are beings present that we can't completely comprehend in a form we don't know of yet. But I'm not getting my hopes up, I don't believe in magical bearded cloud men, unicorns, or Slenderman, spirits are just another on the list of "could be possible" (although out of all the above, spirits seem the most likely to me).

This sentence pretty much explains everything related to the paranormal.

I don't know. We don't know. Humans have not been around long, we have limited understanding of the universe.

No, you're wrong. I mean take what you've just written, for example: there is no rational explanation for why I can see what you've had to say, yet see it I can! It's magic, magic I tell you! This newfangled digitron electronical telegraph is obviously powered by witchcraft. We're all doomed!

etc.

Not trying to pick on Evilfish, but this is exactly the type of argument that I was refering to in my earlier post. "I won't believe without proof, I reject any proof presented, I declare there is no proof"

Consider this for a moment. The science of Physics tells us that the amount of energy in a closed system remains constant. The human body contains an amount of energy used to move, think, reason, create, communicate, ect.. When a person dies suddenly, what happens to that energy? Where does it go? Science says that it cannot be destroyed and therefore it must be transferred to another area. The theory is that spirits are this energy that has left a body, so a tool used to detect energy should detect a spirit. Does this mean that all energy is spirits, not hardly. EMF detectors were designed for other uses and will still find things like faulty wiring, so EMF is not proof per se, but it does fit with the theory.