You can't even ride dragons. : V - Skyrim

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:32 pm

In the case of dragon flight and such, I imagine there's issues with map designs and exploits to consider. Like getting past that wind barrier on the Throat of the World when you're not supposed to... or getting into the final dungeon of the main quest before Sovngarde.

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I really found it hard to believe that we would be able to freely fly around on dragons. Its seems it would open the door for alot of exploiting, make everything to easily accessible.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:36 am

Well even though Dragon riding is below mediocre in the DLC I look forward to seeing how modders will use the animations and such to make a mod that will allow us to actually mount a dragon and fly it anywhere.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:20 am

Please, do us all a favor and quit looking for things to critique just because the expansion did not live up to your petty expectations. You are the one who assumed that free-roaming dragon mounts would be included in the add-on, nowhere did Bethesda say this feature would be present.

For once, try to enjoy the game. If you cannot do this, simply refrain from posting about your supposed "dissapointment" in Dragonborn.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:35 am

Wow, this is starting to sound like the ultimate troll DLC :lmao:

I wasn't going to ride dragons anyway, so I'm not disappointed.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:57 am

To who has done it and has an opinion, is dragon riding at least cool/fun to look at? Like does it give a new perspective and feel epic in some way or does it feel boring and unnecessary? Just curious because I never really expected free roam dragon riding. I just hoped it would be a fun/cool/epic experience.

The first one. Especially over the throat of the world.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:53 am

Lol, whatever you say, man. Whatever you say.

What, your own poll proves it. What was the point of you starting this argument then? As I already said, I never said nobody wanted dragon riding. Come on man.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:18 am

Please, do us all a favor and quit looking for things to critique just because the expansion did not live up to your petty expectations. You are the one who assumed that free-roaming dragon mounts would be included in the add-on, nowhere did Bethesda say this feature would be present.

For once, try to enjoy the game. If you cannot do this, simply refrain from posting about your supposed "dissapointment" in Dragonborn.

I say bring on the hate. Just for a laugh.

It doesn't hurt anything. Skyrim is not a damsel in distress. No need to defend it. It still has tens of millions of fans.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:23 am

There was an unusual lack of pre-release information for this one, so it mostly comes down to the players building too many expectations (see: datamined spears and jumping to conclusions).

Exactly that, it was never once unofficially-confirmed that spears would be playable. Just that they would be included in the game in one way or another.
But people tend to blindly ignore facts in face of belief/longing!

These.

It's for exactly these reasons that people are upset.

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:55 pm

What, so you are going to try and deny that a lot of people didn't care for it, when your own poll proves it? Really? Come on man.

No, I'm just saying whatever, because I could easily point out that you forgot about those who were undecided, because they wanted to see how it was implemented first. As it stands without combining sections, since that could swing either way, most people wanted it.

Doesn't matter anymore. Moving on.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:02 am

I can't have been the only one that actually didn't want dragon-riding, right?

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:49 pm

Please, do us all a favor and quit looking for things to critique just because the expansion did not live up to your petty expectations. You are the one who assumed that free-roaming dragon mounts would be included in the add-on, nowhere did Bethesda say this feature would be present.

For once, try to enjoy the game. If you cannot do this, simply refrain from posting about your supposed "dissapointment" in Dragonborn.

Totally agree, nobody should be allowed to express an opinion other than liking Skyrim and being pleased with everything.

Wait what?

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:54 pm

Like I stated before, they never said you can "ride" dragons. So lets blame the developers for something everyone assumed was in.

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:44 pm

Heh Im sure we will see some interesting mods concerning dragon flight, I may check those out but as far as my main character is concerned IF she needs to fly for some reason cloud of bats works just fine (Bat Travel Mod) and its a lot less conspicuous :lmao:

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:16 pm

I can't have been the only one that actually didn't want dragon-riding, right?

I didn't either

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:00 pm

The first one. Especially over the throat of the world.

See now, then that's fine. Thanks for the reply. A bit of a new cool experience was really all I wanted anyway and I'm plenty excited to get there. People complaining about it may want to be a little more realistic with their expectations. Bethesda's great but they're not gods.

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:42 pm

No, I'm just saying whatever, because I could easily point out that you forgot about those who were undecided, because they wanted to see how it was implemented first. As it stands without combining sections, since that could swing either way, most people wanted it.

Doesn't matter anymore. Moving on.

Why would you not combine 'cant care less' and 'dont want' when talking about people who are not really fussed? Both are alligned... If you combine these it shows the majority didn't care for it. But whatever, it's one poll, it doesn't prove a thing. I never, not once, said that most people objectively didn't want dragon riding, just that a lot of people weren't fussed. This whole argument was pointless. Meh.

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:57 pm

It doesn't take gods to implement that kind of flight. It takes a new engine..even though Creation is different, it's more a big upgrade to Gamebryo, and really, hasn't evolved from principals set out back in Morrowind. It's meant to do the whole roaming land mass FPS thing..and not much else. Some teams use their money to develop entirely new engines for these kind of needs (rockstar is an example). Money is what it takes. Not gods. Something Bethesda has shied away from. I'm sure they'll do something different next time around... they definitely have the cash to waste now.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:01 am

Not surprised. I expected an 'on-rails' approach, so to speak.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:14 am

Why would you not combine 'cant care less' and 'dont want' when talking about people who are not really fussed? They both mean that people didn't really care for Dragon riding whether it was implemented or not... If you combine these it shows the majority didn't care for it. But whatever, it's one poll, it doesn't prove a thing. I never, not once, said that most people objectively didn't want dragon riding, just that a lot of people weren't fussed. This whole argument was pointless. Meh.

In other words, if you took out all other options besides I want them and dont, then I want them is already at a sizeable lead, so if everyone else was forced to vote one way or the other, then it is more than likely still going to be in favor of wanting dragon riding in. Yes it is pointless, and as I said, moving on.

It doesn't take gods to implement that kind of flight. It takes a new engine..

With this current engine it would, since they cant just scrap the current one with a dlc.

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:14 pm

It doesn't take gods to implement that kind of flight. It takes a new engine..even though Creation is different, it's more a big upgrade to Gamebryo, and really, hasn't evolved from principals set out back in Morrowind. It's meant to do the whole roaming land mass FPS thing..and not much else. Some teams use their money to develop entirely new engines for these kind of needs (rockstar is an example). Money is what it takes. Not gods. Something Bethesda has shied away from. I'm sure they'll do something different next time around... they definitely have the cash to waste now.

I think this engine is tolerable for the next Fallout game, as it does look pretty nice and combat doesn't feel as God awful when using ranged weapons so they could just about pull it off, after that, I think an entirely new engine is needed. They don't really have a good excuse now. I wonder, if the next Fallout is released for this gen, how will the PS3 handle it? Will it be as bad as Skyrim, or will they have learned from their mistakes?

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:10 pm

With this current engine it would, since they cant just scrap the current one with a dlc.

Oh I agree, of course. Just saying it doesn't take gods, in general (relatively speaking).

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:19 am

So much QQ all over the place, riding dragons to the spear thing. My god people, be happy you're not even more miserable like the PS3 owners.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:35 am

In other words, if you took out all other options besides I want them and dont, then I want them is already at a sizeable lead, so if everyone else was forced to vote one way or the other, then it is more than likely still going to be in favor of wanting dragon riding in. Yes it is pointless, and as I said, moving on.

But whatever, it's one poll, it doesn't prove a thing. I never, not once, said that most people objectively didn't want dragon riding, just that a lot of people weren't fussed

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:48 pm

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Not sure why you quoted all that since at the end I said moving on.

» Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:45 pm

Oh I agree, of course. Just saying it doesn't take gods, in general (relatively speaking).

You're right. Just a much better engine. Hopefully TES6 will have it. Too bad there wont be dragon riding in that one. I ass-u-me anyway.