I actually dont mind the little fly around. You know that Dragons are smart and wont let anyone control them? I was expecting this.

I quoted myself because I already answered what you repeated in that latest comment.

My point isn't that it's impossible for it to be done. I would love to have that sort of awesome capability in a game and I expect that by the time next gen arrives, we'll have plenty of things like that. PC players are already there. I'm just saying that, given the limitations of consoles and the current engine (it's not like they were going to re-write it for a dlc), free roam dragon riding shouldn't be something that anyone realistically expected for this dlc. Good things will come in due time. 10 years ago, many things we now see in games were barely imagined. I for one, remember my first encounter with dragons in Skyrim being blown away and surprised that they could even do dragons the way they did. For the next TES, I'll hope for epic free roam dragon riding (and stuff).

Edit: I just noticed ColonelKillaBee just said a lot of what I wanted to say. lol.

No they won't. Bethesda likes to have consistent content across all platforms so if it's not doable on one then it's done on none.

Wasn't what I meant, but you fixed it anyway. If you look back, I did not repeat you. Vice versa. Now can we please drop this?

I was talking about PC as in "player character," not PC as in the platform.

It has little to do with consoles. Divinity II is an (relatively) open world RPG (not TES like though), and while not the greatest game, it has dragon flight, and even some other things that Skyrim doesn't do well (like better branching dialogues). GTA IV has some cool flight and an even larger world. GTA V will be on these consoles in a few months and probably be improved. It can be done. All I agree is that one shouldn't have expected this from this DLC. Because the main game itself doesn't support anything like it.

I wasn't talking about you repeating me... But whatever, this is just getting confusing. Sure.

Yup. Dat speculation. Works like a double edged sword. As many now know. Maybe next time people will be more careful in what they assume. Lol, yea right.

I definitely hear you on that. I guess it's just, Beth didn't design Skyrim with any of that in mind. It wasn't their design focus and yeah, their engine doesn't really support aerial stuff too well. My bigger point anyway was just that the expectations for this dlc were too high in that regard. So we're pretty much on the same page. But yeah, I would definitely love to see a whole new engine for the next TES game with support for all sorts of epic awesomeness.

Oh, so you meant in future DLC? My mistake, apologies.

Could you please point out where in my response I said one may not take a stance on Skyrim other than that of a positive one? Take your time...

You still haven't found it, have you? That is because it wasn't said. I was condemning his choice to put words in the mouths of Bethesda leading up to the Dragonborn expansion's release by assuring the ability to freely roam on the back of a dragon, for example. Nothing more, nothing less. Good day.

Don't mean to gloat but

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Your point is a very strong one. Long live Skyrim, and let those who attack its content be damned.

Honestly, I hated the idea of dragon-riding, especially because I figured it would be something like this. I didn't think they could do it right, and by the sounds of things, they didn't.


As a PS3 owner, all of the news presented to me so far has taught me that I should avoid this until I can get a high powered gaming PC, because while I can't speak for the content and story, the features demonstrated so far have left me less than impressed:


Granted, all of these are impressions I've had based on what people have been talking about so far, and maybe some of these things are wrong. As much as I want to explore the world of this DLC, I don't see myself getting this anytime soon. Hopefully, by the time I do have a PC, some mods will have come along to address some of the issues I have.

People are claiming that this is the best Bethesda DLC of all time and you are still not satisfied (albeit based off speculation). You don't seem like a very happy bloke. Or maybe you're one of those people who takes the approach of "If I don't complain about it, then I like it. So I only dislike the things I talk about."

You'll change your tune when you actually get it. If you wanna hold yourself from this great content, than more power to you. Tis a shame.

i found it sattisifying riding the dragons

Did people really expect there to be free-roam dragon riding? There is no possible way the engine could support that. Hell the draw distance is short enough and the game will lag when I am sprinting never mind dragon riding. The engine barely can handle moving quickly as a vampire lord. If things were "easy to impliment" as some point out, then they would have been implimented.

Hey, the setting and whatnot all seem to my liking. Apocrypha is right on the top of the Planes of Oblivion I wanted to visit, so seeing we were going there was awesome. The story (as illustrated by the trailer) wasn't to my liking at all, but I was going to be more than happy about it if the features were good. Unfortunately, it looks like the main features I wanted were not included. People who didn't want the same stuff I wanted got what they wanted and are satisfied, calling this the best DLC Bethesda's made. From what I've heard, the stuff I wanted wasn't included, so I'm not satisfied with this DLC.

As for the whole, "You don't seem like a happy bloke," I'm actually quite happy. Holidays are coming up, I'm about to graduate college with two degrees, and things are going pretty well for me all around. I'm not particularly happy with Bethesda, but that's mostly to do with how much they've botched the DLC on the PS3.


Like I said, I have no doubt that the content in terms of world is great, but the features I wanted weren't included. Definitely not going to rush out next year to buy this for 20 bucks.

If I wasn't myself a poor college student, I'd gift it to you

have you played it? I think you have too many conflicting opinions imo. I think you should stick to one console if your playing on xbox as well. Because your just going to compare one to the other. Why there is a need for spears i wouldnt know, or werebears i wouldnt know. But I dont mind either of it. I hope you end up enjoying the dlc. I am enjoying the new stuff.

Maybe if you focused on what is actually in the dlc you would enjoy it. Plus basing your opinion on just what you heard prior to actually playing for yourself is a pretty ridiculous method of forming an opinion on something.

You know I told people not to get their hopes up about this. Really, I mean come on anyone who thought this was going to be free-roam was kidding themselves especially since people gave reasons why it free-roam dragonriding wouldn't work.

My point is that when you get it, you wont care about what isn't in it. It seems silly to not get it just because some features that were never promised in the first place are not in it.