I'm actually talking about your rudeness, but whatever suits you friend. I don't want to start an argument.

Irony...the thingy that my swordy is made of that I stick in the pointy-ears....

Reminds me of the magicky stuff I use to burn tiny Talos worshipping humans!

@Terra Nova
Don't feel bad for killing stormcloaks, they are scum.
The whole Thalmor situation is quite bad, but the stormcloaks rising up against the empire is exactly what the Thalmor want. Because if the empire is weakened by the stormcloak threat, they can't go back against the Thalmor.
And the empire doesn't want to let the Thalmor punish people for worshipping Talos, they just don't have a choice. That being said there are many Imperials still supporting Talos in secret, and the stormcloaks think they are fighting for the whole Talos case, actually it's just a ruse by Ulfric to give him power. The Thalmor didn't even really take many people for worshipping Talos until the stormcloaks decided to go advertise that they worship him.
I'm on my iPhone so sorry for anything that is written unlogically, or for any spelling errors.
/endrant

I just think that Men races should destroy all the "high-nosed" mer and finish this conflict across all Tamriel.

Especially all of the Aldmeri Dominion..

You can try.....like you did before! There was a time when we needed you, but that time is far gone. Once we oust the Thalmor oppressors, the people of Aldmeris will unite once more and bring an age of peace and glory to all of elven kind! Hail the Dominion!

Oh and bow to us.

Forget it , Long Live The Empire !

Your idea of an anti-elf empire is no better than the dominion. Oh and you'll have to come up with a new religion, because as we established you're worshipping our ancestors! Moohahahahahahaha.

IIRC the Ehlnofey is the ancestors of both men and mer. According to the The Annotated Annuad it and the Hist were the only things who survived the twelve worlds of creation, together creating the basis for Nirn as we know it.

YEP! I love that story. The aedra the humans worship are mostly derived from elven ancestor spirits. Like Akatosh, Stendarr etc. All those aedra started off as being ancestors of the elven elite. There are countless aedra out there, but the majoritt of the ones worshipped by humans were originally worshipped by the elves as their direct ancestors

That's sort of not related to my point. As far as I understood it the Ehlnofey was created by the gods, not a decendant of gods. In other words: Mer are not decendants of gods.

Edit: Anu and Nir are the ancestors to the Ehlnofey according to the Annuad. The Daedra and Aedra came later.

No, the Aedra lost their physical forms when they tried to bring order to the mortal plane, creating the laws of physics and the universe. The "Earthbones". Earthbones translated to "Ehlnofey" in the Ehlnofex language. Many of these earthbones "died" outright, and are just spirits now, others simply became mortals. These are the ancestors of elves and humans
Edit: keep in mind this is all myth. This could be totally wrong. But this is what the elves and humans THINK.

Indeed it is all myth.

And we have nothing else to go on but myth, you know? Either way humans worship beings that started out as elven ancestor spirits.

Tamriellic myths are true, generally speaking. It's how the universe works.

And the elves' divine ancestors were gods, not elves. No races in Aetherius.

Beings the elves believe are their ancestor spirits. They are clearly not the same dieties the elves worship anymore, they are re-shaped by faith and belief.

Yes I know that haha. I just found it sort of funny that the origin of the eight divines can be traced to elven ancestor worship. It made me chuckle a bit thinking of mankind worshipping certain gods when those gods started being worshipped because an elite elven family said "I'm descended from this guy".

And then the human's favorite god gets his heart ripped out by the other one.

I don't see how the gods themselves changed, just the method by which they're worshipped. Aedric religion started in prehistoric times when the ehlnofey revered their ancestors who WERE the gods. As time went by, reverence for all ancestors turned into worship of several, and eventually those gods spread throughout tamriel. Thats the short version of course, and there was a whole time when the empire set up their own pantheon that deliberately used several elven gods so that elves would be safisfied and integrate into the empire. Thus we have the modern 8 divines.

actually the aldmer are evolved from an old race (enfoly, or something like that) only the hsit was not evolved from it, and since argonians come from the hist argonians are the closest to the gods, you will learn you place elf and im pretty sure the argonians worship the hist and sithis (cause argonian shadow scales are given to the dark brotherhood, but that could just be a way of getting rid of the assassins argonia doesnt need)

Well that happened aeons before humans or elves existed, but yes Lorkhan had his heart ripped out by the aedra and shot across tamriel to Red Mountain.

AAldmer come from Old Ehlnofey, also known as Aldmeris. The Aldmer were also knownnas the Old Ehlnofey, while humans were the wandering ehlnofey. No one truly knows where argonians fit in. It's also not clear what their religion is, but they seem to at least revere the hist, maybe even worshipping them. It's clear that the hist are involved in turning the argonians into their well known reptillian forms, which happens when they lick the sap from the tree at an early age. The fact that some argonian tribes look almost human adds even more mystery to their existence.

And those eight divines act exactly how they're supposed to according to Imperial doctrine. They're not humoring us, either.

Ever notice how Akatosh is a god that defends the integrity of the Empire and the Mundus, while Auriel is a pro-elven spirit that would just as soon see his followers destroy the world and reclaim immortality? They're both the same Time God, yet they are polar opposites and each answer their worshippers' contradictory prayers.

And that's because mortal worship created different personas out of the original spirit.

There's also Shezarr, who played nice with elven citizens of the empire after being watered down from the bloodthirsty Shor. Then people stopped worshiping him and he disappeared.

The Aedra sacrificed their immortality (as in, the integrity of their identity and their self-definition) when they took part in creation. As one of Bethesda's writers said, "we are their true parents."

Oh I see what you're saying now! Yes and you're 100% correct. Honestly I started this thread as a silly joke. Didn't expect I'd be taken seriously haha. Yes, the aedra have many different "aspects" Alduin, Auri-El, Akatosh, and possibly Tosh-Raka are all aspects of the Akatosh godhead. The question is, "Are these just different interpretations of the same being? Different identities linked to the same spirit? Beings of unimaginable motive and intellect that act in ways we can't understand? Could all of these be true? Does it depend on the god? This is what makes TES mythology so amazing.

All I was pointing out was that the knowledge and worship of these gods started with the elves, and started being worshipped as tjeir direct ancestors. The elves are the reason we worship the eight divines as opposed to the many other aedra in existence