ANGRY & USELESS THREAD

Post » Tue May 15, 2012 11:52 pm

What does that have to do with Rage? I notice no denial in my accusations. More than likely a contractual agreement keeps you from confirming or denying.

My question to you, why dwell and troll forums with so many post? You're obviously knowledgable and could help people with their problems. Comments like yours killed this community.
"throw you're PC out the window"
Reminds me of EA's response to alpha and beta Testers who posted negative comments about the game. Community Manager calling them "ungrateful" and hoping they don't buy it. No wonder why CoD sold more copies, being it's a poorly made game.

BF3 is hands down a better game but sales are ruined by these types of comments.

Within a forum board people post for help and advice. Not to be made fun of, not to be told their PC is ish. When they are told they were within the stated requirements.

Comments like yours don't kill sales, they just keep the community apart. You probably had the knowledge to help and make this OP change his title to "Edited: helped & useful thread."
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 7:16 am

You're right I spoke too soon about Obsidian and Skyrim. My point still stands their communication with consumers has been far better.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 8:42 am

@Richard Teph, id can't do anything about it. It's nice if you know a history of games working, but you do show not to know about these things.
Simple: id doesn't make the drivers. They aren't doing anything because they can't. They can only wait for AMD to hurry the [censored] up.
Again, not that id didn't do wrong. They messed up. But all the arguments about id not caring are invalid, and no, id can't fix it.

Their only problem was not realizing in time that the game shipped with half-as$ed drivers. AMD, on the other hand, made those drivers.

If the only thing that angers you is that id isn't doing anything then chillax and have a soda, it's AMD who needs to hurry.

Something that id would to made was a free demo, like a beta-test or anything to detect probs before the gold, a PC is not like a console, there's a lot of different PCs, with different cfgs, and specific probs...

Definetly, sorry for my bad english... =)
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:42 am

What does that have to do with Rage? I notice no denial in my accusations. More than likely a contractual agreement keeps you from confirming or denying.

My question to you, why dwell and troll forums with so many post? You're obviously knowledgable and could help people with their problems. Comments like yours killed this community.
"throw you're PC out the window"
Reminds me of EA's response to alpha and beta Testers who posted negative comments about the game. Community Manager calling them "ungrateful" and hoping they don't buy it. No wonder why CoD sold more copies, being it's a poorly made game.

BF3 is hands down a better game but sales are ruined by these types of comments.

Within a forum board people post for help and advice. Not to be made fun of, not to be told their PC is ish. When they are told they were within the stated requirements.

Comments like yours don't kill sales, they just keep the community apart. You probably had the knowledge to help and make this OP change his title to "Edited: helped & useful thread."

So now I'm a killer as well as bully for defending id in their own forums against people making false accusations against them. You should apply for a job as a news anchor for Fox.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 10:38 pm

I wish I knew back in school I could bully people by confusing them to hell with facts. Maybe I wouldn't have got beaten so often.

Nah, they'd just beat you to pulp and then call you a bully for making them angry with facts.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 4:53 am

LoL Fox News LoL

Try to have a good day. Don't take forums so serious.
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Post » Tue May 15, 2012 9:38 pm

Try to have a good day. Don't take forums so serious.
But this is what happens when you enter the ANGRY & USELESS THREAD :lol:

The whole concept of this thread is to let people release their anger, so let us stop correcting them :biggrin:

If they don't like that id does not do customer support, it makes sense. If I bought a car, and it exploded in my garage, wouldn't I want to know what the [censored] happened? Of course I'd also want my money back. This is the stuff they're feeling...
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:08 pm

Yeah. The game is hyped, delayed several times, then it's released and BOOM - it works so-so on with one manufacturer's video cards computers, doesn't work on other's, as a result flops, one update comes out that fixes minor stuff while not fixing major, texture pack is canceled, the editor doesn't come out and after that developer is silent about everything. Those, for whom the game doesn't work feel scammed and are angry and the rest feel angry out of solidarity.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 8:11 am

Yeah. The game is hyped, delayed several times, then it's released and BOOM - it works so-so on one computers, doesn't work on other, as a result flops, one update comes out that fixes minor stuff while not fixing major, texture pack is canceled, the editor doesn't come out and after that developer is silent about everything. Those, for whom the game doesn't work feel scammed and are angry and the rest feel angry out of solidarity.

I'm angry too, but I'm angry at AMD. Without functional drivers id could not release any new content and couldn't even tell people when it would become available. Now that AMD is finalizing their drivers id has announced the first comprehensive patch will be released soon and a level editor and DLC are in the works and we'll hear more about them soon. Id literally had nothing to tell people until now and as people here have demonstrated so clearly and repeatedly those complaining the loudest didn't even want to hear the truth. They just wanted to rant and rave and lash out at the most convenient target.

Feel better now?
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:05 am

I'm angry too, but I'm angry at AMD. Without functional drivers id could not release any new content and couldn't even tell people when it would become available. Now that AMD is finalizing their drivers id has announced the first comprehensive patch will be released soon and a level editor and DLC are in the works and we'll hear more about them soon. Id literally had nothing to tell people until now and as people here have demonstrated so clearly and repeatedly those complaining the loudest didn't even want to hear the truth. They just wanted to rant and rave and lash out at the most convenient target.

Feel better now?

Sorry man but you keep stating the reasons why Rage doesn't work. And obviously you're right. No one questions that. But you never answer about the fact that both dev and editor released the game without testing it on average guy's computer (I just think that they were aware of the problem but couldn't not delay the release, so much with the disenfranchised owners of ati). Okay, as you know me sooooo well, mine is a mess I should throw out through the window, if it pleases you... Okay then : I'd like to ask id to bundle their next games with the development computers they used. Free of charge of course....Oh...sorry that's not possible.

I really hope you don't get paid to leave such posts; fortunetaly, I may never find out. Not saying you troll, but the if the only answer of id and Bethesda is to pay their staff to say customers their computers are a mess, it is even worse. Your constant answers and patience make me wonder...

I'm sorry to say that I agree with xxxdkmodexxx (I know you don't give a s) but, as I said, we will, luckily, never find out...

And if I'm feeling better, it's not really because of you, holy guardian of Truth...
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:13 pm

Sorry man but you keep stating the reasons why Rage doesn't work. And obviously you're right. No one questions that. But you never answer about the fact that both dev and editor released the game without testing it on average guy's computer (I just think that they were aware of the problem but couldn't not delay the release, so much with the disenfranchised owners of ati). Okay, as you know me sooooo well, mine is a mess I should throw out through the window, if it pleases you... Okay then : I'd like to ask id to bundle their next games with the development computers they used. Free of charge of course....Oh...sorry that's not possible.

I really hope you don't get paid to leave such posts; fortunetaly, I may never find out. Not saying you troll, but the if the only answer of id and Bethesda is to pay their staff to say customers their computers are a mess, it is even worse. Your constant answers and patience make me wonder...

I'm sorry to say that I agree with xxxdkmodexxx (I know you don't give a s) but, as I said, we will, luckily, never find out...

And if I'm feeling better, it's not really because of you, holy guardian of Truth...

I get paid by word for these post. The more often you respond with gibberish, the more money I make so please don't stop whatever you do. You're helping to put my kids through college.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 5:02 am

I'm angry too, but I'm angry at AMD. Without functional drivers id could not release any new content and couldn't even tell people when it would become available. Now that AMD is finalizing their drivers id has announced the first comprehensive patch will be released soon and a level editor and DLC are in the works and we'll hear more about them soon. Id literally had nothing to tell people until now and as people here have demonstrated so clearly and repeatedly those complaining the loudest didn't even want to hear the truth. They just wanted to rant and rave and lash out at the most convenient target.

Feel better now?
It didn't make me feel better. But seeing the interview you mentioned (in which Carmack said he regrets developing RAGE with consoles in mind) did. In fact, it did it so well I apologized to him.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 7:35 am

Well , Here to post my opnion .. I am on an ATI card and i still have not played the game due to Glares/Flares or w.e they called problems.. Anywayz , It's technically both id and ATI's Fault .. Point is , I know its the drivers Fault that make RAGE run so bad , But Did id test the game with future ATI drivers? No .. They tested it with the same bad drivers that we used .. And they must have noticed at least how badly the game ran ( And before someone says its only a small number of PCs , When the game released.. First day, It did not work for most people on ATI or Nvidia.. the drivers released on day one helped some and others not and so on till now).. So the point is.. Since when they noticed how bad the game ran on some PCs , They should have either delayed the PC till ACTUAL WORKNG drivers come out.. Or at least issue out a public warning that the game does not work on all PCs due to faulty drivers Then release a demo and advice all customers to try the demo first to see if the game ran well... That would have been the right thing to do.. But no, They released it like nothings is wrong and then just blamed ATI for drivers...



Can you tell me how you fixed that? Cause i am having the exact same problem :

http://i54.tinypic.com/29qcim1.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/25ovrer.jpg

Really all I can suggest is trying every driver from 11.6-Current That is what I did, I used an 11.8 preview driver. Literally trial and error, I really feel like I did the job of a company who should have at least assisted me in the process. To get THEIR game working.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 7:06 am

I'm angry too, but I'm angry at AMD. Without functional drivers id could not release any new content and couldn't even tell people when it would become available. Now that AMD is finalizing their drivers id has announced the first comprehensive patch will be released soon and a level editor and DLC are in the works and we'll hear more about them soon. Id literally had nothing to tell people until now and as people here have demonstrated so clearly and repeatedly those complaining the loudest didn't even want to hear the truth. They just wanted to rant and rave and lash out at the most convenient target.

Feel better now?

This is exactly my point, how much can we all absolve ourselves here by blaming AMD? We can berate them for not releasing working drivers but they don't deserve the blame that everyone here seems to lay on them. AMD has never fully supported an OpenGL platform because it is almost never used. It has never made sense for them to support it. If it finally starts becoming used by gaming companies on a regular basis then AMD is certainly in trouble. But one out of literally hundreds of games doesn't indicate to me and others that this is a failure on AMD's part. Why? Because AMD can't get their cards to work on a platform they have never supported. This is not evidence that AMD failed in this case. This should have been expected. Why is this a surprise to anyone? Why was a it a surprise to Id?

If Id is a "convenient" target it is because they made themselves so. How? Well first of all they were not prepared with a work around for the AMD platform. They really should have known given AMD's historical lack of support for OpenGL games. Hell, Rocksteady can get their PC ports to run Physx with AMD cards, please explain to me why Id could not offer a similar work around? I would like to know. Id is also a convenient target because they were basically silent during the whole mess. They didn't offer any meaningful support to their customers. They have communicated little with their customers, and with what little they did communicate all they did was blame AMD and AMD users for their problems. Something that has been parroted by many of the people on this forum.

Id is a target because they have not indicated what the hell they were doing in this whole mess. It appears that at best all they did was complain to AMD that the drivers were not working. Since they have offered little in terms of explanation or general communication this really only leaves assumptions on the part of many users here. To me it is clear that they have not provided support to their customers because it isn't in their financial interest to do so. This is reflected by Carmack's flippant remarks about consoles being more profitable. It was almost a self fulfilling prophecy on his part. The PC platform was such a mess it was on sale three weeks after its release, and it was discounted even further by Steam during their Christmas sale.

As for AMD releasing stable drivers. I wouldn't hold my breath, as this game barely sold half a million units across all of its platforms. There is no reason for AMD to care if this game works on their cards. As they have focused on other games like Skyrim, because it is in their financial interest to do so. So the question to all those here content to blame everything on AMD, how long are you going to accept that excuse? Six months, seven? Because at this point it is much more pragmatic for Id to release the patch, and I don't know provide support and a work around for their customers with AMD cards, which they should have done in the first place.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 9:09 am

It didn't make me feel better. But seeing the interview you mentioned (in which Carmack said he regrets developing RAGE with consoles in mind) did. In fact, it did it so well I apologized to him.

I was being sarcastic but, yeah, Carmack is famous for being the only developer in the business willing to talk about his work in great detail and routinely giving lectures and interviews. That he would admit his mistake and give people fair warning before the game was even released is just unheard of and one of the many reasons why hard core id fans sometimes practically worship the man. He's not a saint, he's not an Einstein, but in the cutthroat industry of video games we need more talented people like him willing to take serious chances to advance the technology without selling their soul in the process.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 2:43 am

This is exactly my point, how much can we all absolve ourselves here by blaming AMD? We can berate them for not releasing working drivers but they don't deserve the blame that everyone here seems to lay on them. AMD has never fully supported an OpenGL platform because it is almost never used. It has never made sense for them to support it. If it finally starts becoming used by gaming companies on a regular basis then AMD is certainly in trouble. But one out of literally hundreds of games doesn't indicate to me and others that this is a failure on AMD's part. Why? Because AMD can't get their cards to work on a platform they have never supported. This is not evidence that AMD failed in this case. This should have been expected. Why is this a surprise to anyone? Why was a it a surprise to Id?

This falls into the category of tin foil hat conspiracy theories where you take a few cherry picked facts completely out of context and extrapolate the worst possible scenario.

First off, AMD is a multi-billion dollar corporation that has tons of expertise in openGL which only in recent years has taken a back seat to Dx for video games and is still the de facto standard for enterprise use. In fact, they have made a fortune listening to Carmack and working closely with him to take the industry to the next level. These people might as well be kissing cousins and its routine for Nvidia and AMD to supply money and expertise to developers to ensure new games come on the market that are capable of using the latest bells and whistles they cram onto a video card. Batman has Nvidia physx, Crysis 2 and Metro 3D vision, and so on because video card manufacturers pay the developers to put them in the game and, if necessary, supply technical expertise. Rage uses Nvidia cuda for gpu transcoding and has had far fewer problems with Nvidia drivers. AMD's newest video card has hardware acceleration for megatextures, but they had endless problems with the drivers for Rage.

The reason they keep having driver problems is the video card manufacturers have followed the standard industry practice of pushing new products out the door as fast as possible and cleaning up the mess after the fact. If you buy the latest and greatest video card to come on the market you takes your chances. Very likely it will have driver problems that may not be fixed for months. The same with new games being released on the market. AMD and Nvidia create basic drivers for the game, but the only way to know how compatible they are with every possible computer configuration and program on the market is to throw them into the deep end of the pool and see what happens. Sometimes a larger game developer might beta test drivers first, but id is a small company and it still doesn't account for AMD's failure to fix the thing for 4 months.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 6:52 am

This thread is really a waste. Instead of arguing over who's fault it might be people should be giving useful information about there problems,
there hardware, setup and operating system they are using. Just because id or AMD are not responding doesn't mean there not reading or trying to work this out for all.
Sure its taking a while but your not helping matters by throwing a temper tamperer or fussing with each other..

OMG grow up! lol
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 6:36 am

This thread is really a waste. Instead of arguing over who's fault it might be people should be giving useful information about there problems,
there hardware, setup and operating system they are using. Just because id or AMD are not responding doesn't mean there not reading or trying to work this out for all.
Sure its taking a while but your not helping matters by throwing a temper tamperer or fussing with each other..

OMG grow up! lol

I agree, temper tantrums and name calling isn't exactly productive. But it does help to know if somebody's products are defective so you can avoid them in the future. This year AMD has released bulldozer which turned out to be a dud for desktop gaming, is being sued for selling defective chips, and has now taken 4 months to fix the drivers for Rage. I like to support the underdog as much as the next guy, but they are not making it easy.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 1:30 am

This falls into the category of tin foil hat conspiracy theories where you take a few cherry picked facts completely out of context and extrapolate the worst possible scenario.

First off, AMD is a multi-billion dollar corporation that has tons of expertise in openGL which only in recent years has taken a back seat to Dx for video games and is still the de facto standard for enterprise use. In fact, they have made a fortune listening to Carmack and working closely with him to take the industry to the next level. These people might as well be kissing cousins and its routine for Nvidia and AMD to supply money and expertise to developers to ensure new games come on the market that are capable of using the latest bells and whistles they cram onto a video card. Batman has Nvidia physx, Crysis 2 and Metro 3D vision, and so on because video card manufacturers pay the developers to put them in the game and, if necessary, supply technical expertise. Rage uses Nvidia cuda for gpu transcoding and has had far fewer problems with Nvidia drivers. AMD's newest video card has hardware acceleration for megatextures, but they had endless problems with the drivers for Rage.

The reason they keep having driver problems is the video card manufacturers have followed the standard industry practice of pushing new products out the door as fast as possible and cleaning up the mess after the fact. If you buy the latest and greatest video card to come on the market you takes your chances. Very likely it will have driver problems that may not be fixed for months. The same with new games being released on the market. AMD and Nvidia create basic drivers for the game, but the only way to know how compatible they are with every possible computer configuration and program on the market is to throw them into the deep end of the pool and see what happens. Sometimes a larger game developer might beta test drivers first, but id is a small company and it still doesn't account for AMD's failure to fix the thing for 4 months.

First off I would like to state that I am a political scientist, cynical calculations and dabbling in conspiracy theories are what I do.

I would like to know what you claim is cherry picked. Everything I have stated is verifiable. Let me be clear, what I was saying had nothing to do about AMD competency from a technical standpoint. What I did say was that they in recent times have not invested much in supporting the platform that Rage uses. Hence all of the technical problems. Which is why I also stated it wasn't AMD's best interest to bother with a game that sold so poorly. Let me know what part of that is not correct. This is why in two different posts I talk about game sales. Ultimately this is about what is making money for game companies or video card manufactures. Which is why we have more driver releases for games like Skyrim over Rage at this point. If that is tinfoil then I guess I am wearing a hat.

As for your statement about drivers being release and fixed afterwards; you're right nothing else needs to be said about that. I don't disagree; I have more than a decade of PC gaming under my belt. I expect PC games and video drivers to be buggy.My questions about why Id seemed ill-prepared to deal with all of the issues are still salient. All I can do is speculate, it seems from their interviews that they thought they had a working driver solution. Yet, we are all still waiting. At this point I could care less who is to blame; I want my 60 dollar piece of software to work consistently and without three weeks of trial and error troubleshooting by me. My problem with Id is that they didn't provide much in the way of support. The community resolved most of the major issues. To me this is not acceptable.

I am picking on Carmack because he made the statement. It is his words, he stated, that consoles make more money. And given that the PC port was released with so many issues, from the drivers to basic video options missing. No one seems to be asking why this PC port wasn't ready, and has received little support. I understand that has a lot to do with whether or not AMD or Nvidia has working drivers and more importantly how good the support they provide is. The trend from a lot of companies lately is that PC ports release anywhere from a month to a year later. This is done for a reason, the PC platform is difficult to develop for. I imagine this release was rushed out because the game was in development for about 6 years, and to the sales people, more development time wasn't acceptable. That still doesn't justify no response. I believe the last one was a twitter remark made in November about waiting for drivers.

Again I still claim that this is an excuse, which is why I brought up other companies like Blizzard. Blizzard has always strove to ensure that their games work on the broadest range of PC's. I have never heard them say "oh sorry you don't get patches or support because we are waiting on a 3rd party." I brought up Rocksteady and AA because it is an example of how a work around can be created by a company. I understand that Physx is a proprietary engine that was pushed by Nvidia. And this practice got them in some legal trouble. Rocksteady could have just told everyone to go out and buy an Nvidia card. Instead they released a crack to get the game working on AMD cards. The example was again intended to highlight the fact that these types of solutions can be effective. So I have to ask once again apparently when is Id going to take this approach? How long do we wait around for DLC or a patch?

Which brings us right back to AMD. I still argue that we won't see anything done because it is not in their interest to do so. Ask yourself this, which makes more sense for AMD? Spending resources to try and fix a niche game, which AMD is having a lot of trouble supporting. Or using those same resources to ensure that the game which has sold 3x as much is working at its best. Supporting Skyrim makes them a lot more money in this calculation, lets not kid ourselves, for AMD this is about making money.
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This thread is really a waste. Instead of arguing over who's fault it might be people should be giving useful information about there problems, there hardware, setup and operating system they are using. Just because id or AMD are not responding doesn't mean there not reading or trying to work this out for all. Sure its taking a while but your not helping matters by throwing a temper tamperer or fussing with each other.. OMG grow up! lol

The title of this is angry and useless thread, someone has to make sure it lives up to it's name. Besides its January, I live in a mountain town and I don't have much else to do between classes.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 12:20 pm

The title of this is angry and useless thread, someone has to make sure it lives up to it's name. Besides its January, I live in a mountain town and I don't have much else to do between classes.
Have you tried speaking with human beings around you? :P
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:28 am

Got news guys.

So, with THE SAME COMPUTER (sorry Wuli...) and with the installation of Win 7 64 bits (instead of 32 bits) and the last AMD drivers for that OS (11.12), RAGE runs fine.

Thank you Stahlfaustus, you made this "angry and useless thread" a "sceptical and usefull thread" (for my part...).

Bye
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 6:01 am

As I and others have already stated here, the game is rock solid and bug free. Its not a mess in any way, shape, or form. Its your computer that's a mess if it can't play the game.

LMAO--that has to be one of the most idiotic really devoted fan statements I have read for a response in any game forum any where--carmack f'd up and screwed over the PC to make some $$$$$$ from the console dweebs. It's Carmacks version of Romeros Daikatana. Simple as that.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 9:10 am

Got news guys.

So, with THE SAME COMPUTER (sorry Wuli...) and with the installation of Win 7 64 bits (instead of 32 bits) and the last AMD drivers for that OS (11.12), RAGE runs fine.

Thank you Stahlfaustus, you made this "angry and useless thread" a "sceptical and usefull thread" (for my part...).

Bye

I'm glad i could help! :biggrin: Enjoy the game !
Problems related to hard and or software always demand technical solutions and not "political" ones... :cool:

To all "consoles f**ked up Rage for PC" guys: What you see graphicswise on PC is what PCs of today can deliver.
It's a typical mistake of unaware users to assume that PC hardware should be more powerful than consoles just because of higher clocked chips, more memory and higher priced parts.

In fact, the IBM PC is just an anachronistic, hotrodded typewriter connected to a monitor.
It's versatile but definitely not powerful considering the amount of hardware/software needed to make it run.

Btw.: I'm sure that both, Xbox 360 and PS3 run their games 64 bit native.
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Post » Wed May 16, 2012 10:47 am

To all "consoles f**ked up Rage for PC" guys: What you see graphicswise on PC is what PCs of today can deliver.
It's a typical mistake of unaware users to assume that PC hardware should be more powerful than consoles just because of higher clocked chips, more memory and higher priced parts.
Sadly that's false, my PC costed only about $150 and it runs games that the consoles would have to water down to get it running at barely 30fps.
The PC of today can deliver graphically far more than the consoles.

It's not about opinion here, it's fact. PC superiority can happen right over night after new consoles are released, it's called constant upgrades.

Not that it has to do with Rage svcking, as you have also stated, because Rage doesn't svck in the first place. The graphics are just fine, not what people wanted to see on their PC's, but they're not as bad as old-gen.
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