Endorsed.

As for OP's question ... There's nothing out there that really compares. Try The Witcher 2. It's shorter, and it's not an open-world design, but it's a generally good, interesting, fun romp through a fantastical land ...

If you are looking for something like skyrim and you listen to this advice I think you may be disappointed. New Vegas is awful, it's jittery, garish to look at, depressing, confusing storylines, there are a few dedicated fans here but if you look around the net you can find more realistic opinions on it. Terribly executed game. I loved skyrim and also dark souls, you could try that out but check reviews first. Have fun!

Nice comparison, never realized a paperbook cost the same price as a custom built pc. That said, keep telling us how epic this game minus the graphics feels in year 2011...

LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2xa2r-0bTI

Good thing for me graphics do not really matter.
Lets hope Bethesda switches to high gear, there is Kingdoms of Amalar and Dragons Dogma coming up.

What? That has nothing to do with what I said.
Also, an imagination is free. I feel sorry if some people don't have one and need their PC video card to do it for them.
The graphics are great inside my mind's eye when I read a book... or when I play an older game with "poor" graphics.
That's where the true RPG gets told.... in me.

The closest thing I have ever seen to coming close to the elder scrolls series is the king's field series (from software ps1/ps2), and the arcania series. But nothing really compares.

Published by EA

do NOT want

You're confusing flash vs substance with quantity over quality. Unless you're specifically talking about the quality of graphics, then making something prettier != increasing it's quality.


The detail in a system where you can make nothing but leather bracers and somehow turn that into mastery of metal working and bone working? The detail of a system where metal never degrades, chips, or gets damaged in anyway no matter how long and how hard you bang it against another piece of metal? Again I think you're confusing prettiness with quality. Oh wow Skyrim actually shows you swinging the hammer instead of just hearing a sound! That obviously means it's a better, more detailed system.


It was a better RPG because it was mainly an RPG with some action elements. Skyrim is an action/adventure with some RPG elements in it.

Indeed. Skyrim is all about the freedom of movement in the world and the way you can interact with objects. For instance I am presently playing Deus EX, Human Revolution, awesome game, great plot, etc. In terms of story and character customization it blows Skyrim away but it lacks severely in world depth and the limited objects one is able to interact with. As an example when I go into an office building I can only interact with like 2 items whereas Skyrim allows pretty much full exploration and item interaction.

It is what it is...Both are awesome games and play to their strengths. Bethesda's strengths has always been about world building, Skyrim is no different.

Calling Skyrim and RPG is a stretch of the definition... It's an open ended action adventure game.

Two Worlds II is of the same type although there's far less content than Skyrim. I love the graphics and the size of the towns. It puts Skyrim outdated graphic engine to shame.

If you're looking to a game which implements serious C&C you can try Risen and possible the incoming Risen II (if they remain true to the same formula). Unlike Oblivion/Skyrim there's no level scaling: the world is entirely hand crafted and thus it's possible to wander into areas where enemies are too tough for a beginner character or even for a mid range one. Some people hate this aspect but this boils down to personal preference

you could always try Morroblivion, which is morrowind using Oblivions graphics engine. It was a bit of a pain to set up, but its now pretty stable with all the main quest lines working. I had a blast playing it.

Yeah, but then with Skyrim you just wind up getting bogged down by all the brooms you're saving up for the broom dungeon. It leaves little room for actual loot in your bag.

But the TS wanted a game similar to Skyrim. I played MW for a very long time and would say it is not so similar. And I would never go back to MW because it has a lot of boring and frustrating aspects, especially in the fighting system. To compare the graphics and animations of MW to Skyrim, even with the most modern mods, is more or less a yoke, isn't it?

A game similar to Skyrim is Oblivion with some mods (archery, hand-to hand-combat and so on). I don't know other games similar. Fallout and NV may be a choice, if Sci-Fi is ok ( I hated both because of character creation and item restrictions). Dragon Age Origins, DA 2 and the Witcher games are not so similar, but worth a try. I did not like the Gothic series because I cannot create my own char, but gameplay wise it may be a possibility.

Let me guess, Consoler? Cause I thought random cigarettes, gnome statues and 8 balls were pointless at one time until....this particular mod started at fallout 3...only matter of time it's converted to skyrim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xAgOQMJ7wg

True, but I haven't even addressed the TS. Any game I would've recommended has already been recommended before I got here. That was specifically in response to what matteo78 said.


Well it'd be quite easy to compare them, by example pointing out how Skyrim looks better




Nope, wouldn't dream of playing a TES game on a console. Just a fan of Penny Arcade:

http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/151451/pa-comic-monday-nov.-13-2011-thulsa-broom

That mod looks insane though. I have two dragon priest masks facing the wrong way on a table because it's too difficult to get them exactly where I want em.

You want Skyrim with better graphics?

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1323586-made-skyrim-look-beautiful-with-these-mods/

There are no other games "like" Skyrim. Sure there are loads of RPG games out there but none are like the TES series. It's why fans of the series (myself included) get so annoyed when things change and make the game less TES and more "everything else", because there are no alternatives for TES fans to go and play and have the same experience.

Other than maybe Fallout 3 also developed by Bethesda or NV developed by Obsidian but using Bethesda's engine. NV in how it works is almost the same as Fallout 3

Something tells me he's gonna hate Fallout 1 and 2.

In the past there was stuff like Lands of Lore. They were more linear, but also 1st person. The third title was rather open worldy.
Even earlier there was Legends of Valour. It only plays in one city, but it might have been the first 1st person open world RPG. It was great for its time.
There were a lot more games like that in the past ... but they are very old now. They are from the time, when enemies were just 2D bitmaps.
The old Might and Magic games for example ... you had multiple characters in a party, but it was still 1st person.

Then you have games like Gothic1,2,3 and Risen which are open world. Gothic 1 and 2 are some of the best open world RPGs ever created. But they are 3rd person.

Then there are things like the old Fallout games and Jagged Alliance 2, which are open world, but ISO-view.
And of coruse there is Fallout3, which is very much like TES (but gameplay wise worlds better in almost every point). It's just another kind of world.

Oh, and don't forget Nehrim, which is a total conversion mod for Oblivion.

Reckoning will be the execption to the rule when you have EA as a publisher, game already has over 200 hours of content if not more and I don't think EA will have a problem with KOA seeing how Skyrim sold a bunch of copies. Probably the only other game out there that's like Skyrim and Reckoning is more of an RPG I would argue over Skyrim.

The 2D graphics of many old games are timeless ... some of the PS1 titles however ...

But the great thing is, even if something looks very awful to you at the first look, you won't notice it anymore if you just start playing.
I started to play FF8 again some months back. First I was really turned down by the graphics, but after an hour or so I didn't even noticed it anymore. I just played the game ... the atmosphere is still great.
Same goes for Gothic 2, which is dead-ugly by todays standards. The atmosphere however still works. The forests look better then every forest you've ever seen in a TES game.

Gothic 3 and the latest patch community, it's a big game. it's hard to believe it's from 2006 but it's just a shame the devs released it early and didn't optimise it well.

You must be new to these types of games if that's your opinion, and you terribly obviously didn't continue playing New Vegas any later than December of 2010. You say the storylines are confusing only because of the amount of freedom we have and how much our choices effect the world around us. You say it's garish to look at because you're butthurt that it uses the same game engine as Fallout 3. You say it's depressing; welcome to the post-nuclear-warfare world of Fallout. You say the game is jittery, and there are two possibilites here; One, you stopped playing New Vegas before the patches came out in 2011, or two, you're playing a Bethesda game on the PS3 where there have always been problems.

New Vegas is an amazing Fallout game with great storylines and an amazing and deep compainion system. The combat system is much improved from Fallout 3, and the perks are better too.

Freeman has attempted to shoot down my opinion based on a pre-updated version of Fallout New Vegas. If you listen to him, you are perhaps missing out on one of the best Fallout games ever made. A lot of people around these forums have even said that Obsidian should be writing the Fallout storylines for the future games.

Blatant lying at it's finest.

I agree completely. Forced third-person is an RPG and immersion ruiner.


Technology has advanced to a point where people just won't buy a game that doesn't graphically utilize what's been given to them. It's not the gamers' fault.