Battle-Born or Grey-Mane? : V

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:06 am

I havent decided yet which way I’m going in the civil war; but I really dislike Olfrid Battle-Born. He is arrogant an ignorant; and he has betrayed his old allies shamefully over a certain matter which I cannot mention explicitly here.

How about others here…
Battle-Born or Grey-Mane?

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:36 am

Grey-Mane!
They're not racist, so I see no no real reason to join Battle-borns!

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:29 am

If your racist and you hate every race expect Nords, then go Grey-Mane
If not, Battle-Born.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:38 am

Battle-Born: Imperial

Grey-Mane: Stormcloak

I go with the Grey-Mane's.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:14 pm

If your racist and you hate every race expect Nords, then go Grey-Mane
If not, Battle-Born.

And if you like to inprison inocent peaple and be an a**hole, then go, Battle-Born!

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:22 am

Given the cosmopolitan views of the Empire, and the Battle-Born's alliegence to them I have to go with Battle-Born. Olfred is the only real jerkface, the rest are alright.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:07 am

I wouldnt use the Battle-Born v Gray-Mane aspect alone, you have to look at the whole picture.

I havent sided with either yet, as i havent tackled the Civil war. It's a tough decision to make as some of the Stormcloaks/Nords are very honorable, but i think the Imperials are right overall. Doesnt mean you have to like the Thalmor though, we can kill them later fighting alongside the Nords.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:44 am

This forums are full of Imperial propaganda.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:50 am

Depends fully on my character. A Thalmor agent will support the Stormcloaks and allies, my Imperial is for the Empire all the way. My thief doesn't touch the civil war, not her affair at all. My Redguard archer usually sides with the Stormcloaks, knowing that standing up for your rights against the Empire and Thalmor can be done at a high price and respects the Nords for it.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:15 am

Also worth noting I helped both families with certain problems, for coin of course.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:47 am

I f00kin hate the battle born. They are a disgrace to the imperials.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:09 pm

Olfrid, patron of the great clan Battle-Born... a name I'm sure you know well.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:56 pm

I don't like either of them.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:11 pm

Grey-Mane!
They're not racist, so I see no no real reason to join Battle-borns!

Then why do so many say they are racist?

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:37 am

Then why do so many say they are racist?

The clan itself doesn't appear to be racist but being aligned with the Stormcloaks sort of gives them that rep.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:00 am

Grey-Mane, even though I support the Empire. They're misguided, but their hearts seem to be in the right place.

All the Battle-borns except Jorn are worthless. I like Jorn Battle-Born. Their kid's annoyingly helpless - I almost felt sorry for him, until he admitted he NEVER stood up for himself.

Then why do so many say they are racist?

They get saddled with that Stereotype because they support Ulfric's cause for a Free Skyrim and renewed worship of Talos.

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:13 pm

So, to believe a country's people should be self-determining is racist?

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:24 am

Gray-Manes. They are good and honest people for justice, peace and common folk.

Battle-Borns are nothing more than rich elitists who want to live above all other citizens and wish to support the Empires in war example by hiring Avenicci to forge weapons for legion. They think they are better than others only because they have money. This is attitude against others and especially against the poor people is the real racism and the worst kind of it.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:32 am

Grey-Mane!
They're not racist, so I see no no real reason to join Battle-borns!

Any Stormcloak is racist.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:00 am

There is not a single likeable Battle-Born in the game.

Meanwhile you have Eorlund who is a great help during the Companions and the elderly woman looking for her missing son.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:40 am

The clan itself doesn't appear to be racist but being aligned with the Stormcloaks sort of gives them that rep.

It's also weird that this reputation comes from Stormcloaks who are not racists. Stormcloaks gets the reputation that they are racists because most people of Windhelm are racists.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:14 am

Gray-Manes. They are good and honest people for justice, peace and common folk.

Battle-Borns are nothing more than rich elitists who want to live above all other citizens and wish to support the Empires in war example by hiring Avenicci to forge weapons for legion. They think they are better than others only because they have money. This is attitude against others and especially against the poor people is the real racism and the worst kind of it.

Now that's my kind of logic.
But there is clearly another logic which leads many players to support the Empire. I dont know what that logic is. Any ideas?

» Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:30 pm

Grey-Manes, Battle-Borns seem like complete [censored]s after doing that rescue quest in Whiterun.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:28 am

There is not a single likeable Battle-Born in the game.

Lars Battle-Born is likeable.

» Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:32 am

Now that's my kind of logic.
But there is clearly another logic which leads many players to support the Empire. I dont know what that logic is. Any ideas?

Ulfric's selfish rebellion cuts the Empire's resources to fight the real enemy, Aldmeri Dominion.