I hope they let you back in... or at least let you back in so you can kill them for banning you.

One thought that springs to mind, is that it might be if you have one very high winning streak or a succession of moderately high winning streak visits to the casino in question. If you only take away a small to medium amount each time, they might let you be.

Having said that, this is just an offhand thought about how they might do it. It may be that they have a cumulative win counter that keeps track of all of your winnings from that casino and once you hit the specified amount of winnings, that's it and your character is banned.
They I think are doing this to prevent at least some people from the save/gamble once/reload or save again method of gaining obscene amounts of money through doing that and even through we/you personally may not do that, some people will just because they can.

That sounds like a terrible move on Obsidians part. 'Lets make it so with each visit their 'win streak' is counted higher' And just makes you potentially lose your gambling rights. If they made it '10000 caps' as the bar per visit. I'd be set with that, because it just sounds like alot of effort to do it in one sitting without cheating/

Mebbe you'll be able to bribe the pit-boss to up your "break-limit"... slip him a few hundred caps, say, and he'll let you win up to 5000 before he' has to give you the boot. Returning later, perhaps bribing him again to "forget' you were banned?

I sure hope it's given the "three-day-rule" treatment. If you happened to get lucky on say the slots, why should you be punished permanently? And I certainly hope that if you do get banned that they let you retain your windfall and not have it repossessed. Imagine evening the odds by busting in and gunning anything that moves; working your way up to the top levels, killing bouncers as you go, and going for the chairmen. That'd be cool. Of course, it'd be a last resort and you might just bite it if you weren't well armed/armored.

I've assumed that the only way to reasonably reach the limit in the casinos is to cheat.
Also, i think there should be a way to get unbanned. Maybe by doing the casino owner some sort of favor? Perhaps a very dirty favor.
But you can only do it once.

I hope its like posted above that we must win these winnings to get banned must all be done in one sitting.

Like after 2 weeks or a month in game you can come back to try your luck again and the accumalative resets.

I for one and just being a casual gambler with my first character with 4 luck, doubt I'll break the casino. But sometimes you just want to play the actual game and feeel that thrill of gambling, and cutting that off completely with a no-going back system kind of svcks.


Also would be nice to play caravan with your companion for a paltry amount of caps or just practicing. A friendly card game between you 2.

That will svck if you win too much and you get banned. What's the point of that? You gamble and you win, that happens all the time. SOMEONE has to win right?

I like the bansystem, helps the economy of the game. There are many casinos and - unless cheating - one likely doesn't win the cap limit right away anyway - plus, people play the caravan game outside the casinos. I can see why some might be annoyed by it but personally I don't see the issue here - more likely I would have an issue if I could be able to win 1000000000000000000000+ chips from everywhere with no limits at all, since you will never run out of money in this game thanks to the neverending loot.

you can get banned from casinos. that svcks.

Right. Other people addressed this too, but here's my view.

The amazing wins, the crippling losses, the hot streaks and the last chances. Those kind of things make up some sort of romanticism with gambling. Much in the ways people see violence or vice, there is always this elegant look to it. Watching your hot streak put you into the hole, and that despair pile on, and attempting to find that last bit of luck..

Now layer on a desperate world ravaged by war and anarchy.. That is poetry waiting to happen. Lives at stake, whole fates determined by a dice roll. Heat from factions and other casino go-ers, lady luck drifting by your side..

That is absoluely ripe for a beautiful storyline and hours of excitement. So, limiting that whole idea, is beyond rediculous. Also add in that from a gameplay standpoint, cutting out a new mechanic; these permanent limits are like cutting out words of an epic, or shaving the head of Mona Lisa. Not a intelligent idea, and certainly passing up on a amazing setting for roleplay and story all around.

Well it's like I said, I don't have an issue with economy barriers, it's just that Blackjack is my favorite card game. :cryvaultboy:

I'm sure you'll get to play it quite a lot. Even with the limitation.

Well maybe you can only get banned from the major casino's, I'd really like it if you can ALWAYS go to some backroom casino with like one or two old sh!tty slot machines, and like a card table or two with each table game, it'd be really dirty and grimy, but if you do win too much, instead of getting banned, you get accused of cheating, and have to prove you wern't/pass a speech check, or you get beat up and ditched somewhere, or maybe that can happen in the large ones, and if it happens a few times or more you get banned, and can't gamble there anymore, but can always return to the backroom, this sounds great, no? If this IS in the game, that'd be great, or if not, it'd make a really awesome mod, especially in the start of it all, when there arn't many mods to be seen.

I'm sure that Obsidian is/has perfected it so that you can get you fix of gambling...

Note to self: Gambling addictions; beware

It goes like this:

Your banned from GAMBLING at the Casino if you got banned for gambling and winning too much.

You can still walk inside and out of the casino as long as you don't gamble. If you shoot someone inside the casino, your probably going to be banned from the Casino itself. And if your real lucky, the whole Strip will get pissed at you and start shooting at you!

idk i loved the fact i heard you could gamble but to be banned?! in real life yeah sure you get banned if you hit something would svck but thats life you cant do anything about it but i play these games to get away! from life i pray (figure of speech) they at lest make it a perk wher eyou cant be banned that takeing away a highly looked forwred part of the game for winning is just a kill joy for me

Banned means banned. The Devs did this so one of us wouldn't develop a gambling problem...And it also adds realisim to the game, if could break the bank, you're banned.

svcks tho banned cauz u win too much?

Because casinos are in it to make money. Remember that the Strip in New Vegas is based off the Las Vegas of the 1940s and 1950s, where the casinos were all run by the mob and some truly dangerous characters. Winning a lot in a casino isn't just about winning a lot of money - its about winning a lot of times. Casinos don't mind people winning big in their casinos - it draws in more hopefuls that gamble and lose money, and the casino makes a net profit. It's like when people see lottery winners and get inspired to go buy lottery tickets.


Exactly. An unlimited source of large amounts of cash could quickly break the game, allowing you to buy any and everything you desired. I imagine that is also why access to the strip is restricted at first, to keep you from bee-lining to the casinos with a high Luck character at level 1 and striking it rich. You might not think its a big deal, but imagine in Fallout 3 if you had 10000 caps at level 2 and where in a place like Rivet City Market. You'd quickly become unstoppable just based off equipment, and that wouldn't be very fun - at least not for long.


Why are people getting so upset? If its anything like real life, you won't get banned because you got lucky and made a good amount of money. You'll get banned if you consistently "get lucky" and are on a seemingly never-ending winning streak. The solution is simple - don't win all the time. Throw a few hands. Make sure you bust playing Blackjack. Have a cut off limit for yourself and make a point never to win more than that amount in a single sitting. Any casino in the world is going to kick you out if you keep winning all the time. Solution: Don't win all the time. Many card counters got away with their trick for years before casinos caught on and started using multiple decks, all because those card counters were smart - in more ways than one. There are 7 casinos in the game, right? Don't win too much, too often in any one of them. Drift between them, and be sure to lose for a little while after any hot streaks.

Example: I had a friend in the Marines, and we would have poker sessions throughout the week while in the field with the other Marines. We played for cash, and quite a bit of it at that - $20 was the ante. Now, my friend was good at poker - he never cheated, but he knew strategy and how to bluff and read people, so he almost always won. Hundreds of dollars a week in fact. So much so, that he started finding it hard to find games, because people didn't want to lose their money to him. So he came up with an ingenious plan to lose. He would maybe win $200 one week, and lose $100 the next week. He was careful to always lose after that on a regular basis - he just made sure he never lost more than he had won previously, so he made a net profit of several hundred dollars at the end of each month, but didn't have a reputation as someone who won all the time, and thus got to keep gambling.

Just act like a professional gambler if you plan on playing a professional gambler in the game. Because trust me, I don't believe there is any way in hell of you getting banned from all seven casinos if you are just gambling casually. You are going to have to be gambling often and with purpose.


Then you'll never get banned. Even with a high Luck stat giving you good odds, winning consistently enough to be banned ain't gonna happen without employing strategy, a plan, and doing a lot more gambling than would qualify as "casual".


Banned means banned forever - life. And really? The slots? No one has ever gotten banned for winning a jackpot at the slots. Trust me. The most they may make you do is move to another machine. Those slot machines are programmed in real life and (I'd imagine) in the game to only give out so many "jackpots" per number of pulls. Casinos NEVER take a loss on the slot machines, because they basically tell them when to pay out.


All those things are still possible. Obsidian said that the programmer they had programming the casino games had recently come off of programming an actual casino game. I've said it once and I'll say it again - you can't win so much in a single hand or round or spin or pull that you'll get banned for it. Hot streaks are still possible, just don't think you'll break the bank - a casino in real life wouldn't let you do that either. Know when to stop. Crippling losses, uh, I'm guessing the casinos aren't going to have a problem with that. Amazing wins? Sure. Casinos love'em, especially when they are in view of the rest of the gamblers. It keeps the rest of the sorry svckers slapping down money so they can win big too. Last chances? Again, nothing you could win on a last chance hand or spin would be enough to get you kicked out.

Also, think about this, even if the game tracks your winnings and the ban amount is cumulative (I hope it isn't, but it may be), there are 7 casinos. Now, lets assume each has a ban amount of 10,000 caps. By the time you are banned from them all and can no longer gamble on anything but Caravan, you will have won 70,000 caps!

I would assume you can still go inside. I'm pretty sure the Casinos are also quest hubs.

Late, I appreciate what you are saying. But we don't know the mechanics on how we can get banned. From the most simple way of looking at it, Casinos would just have a cap. Win this much, and you're done. So, seeing as that hasn't been cleared up, that's what we have. So, your idea could work, or not.

If the cap is say 2000, and I win 1999, I'm not done. Now, If that cap limit dissapears after a day or whatever, casinos are still viable. If it is fixed there, it becomes broken. Only being allowed to get a certain total, regardless of luck or skill, breaks the whole point of gambling.

So, until we know the details, the general assumption is that we are being hosed. I really want to enjoy gambling, as we are going to be in Vegas. But if one little slip gets me booted, it's a wasted mechanic.

Well, a cap could work as long as it is a temporary cap, such no more than 5000 a week or so from each casino. Win up to 4999 and leave, then come back 7 days later and you can win up to 4999 again. Go back and gamble the next day, though and go over the cap, you're banned for good. I hope it's a more complicated calculation than that however.

If there is a cap, I hope it is different for each casino and we don't know what it is ahead of time. Then you're really gambling when you get on that winning streak. You're at 3768 in winnings - this next spin could put you over 4K. Is that the cap? Should you stop? Or is it 5K or six? Do you dare play on . . . . :shifty:

does anybody have ANY feedback on my last post in this thread...? its on the page before this one, i think it sounds good..

Well it is (iirc) said that the casinos may hold "something special" in addition to the normal gambling, so who knows, maybe we do get a dirty backroom with some extra way to bet our caps.