Becomming UnBanned From casino

Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:15 am

Well i meant as more of a dirty backroom aside from a casino, acting as an under the table anything goes type place in the back of an old place or something, where if you get caught cheating or something they can do w.e. to you as opposed to beating you up and banning you.
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Amy Siebenhaar
 
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:42 am

I think that you get banned after you win too much but barely lose anything. So if you're getting close, START LOSING!
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Oscar Vazquez
 
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:01 am

What people arn't realizing is that there's casinos OFF THE STRIP. FAR AWAY. :hubbahubba:
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kevin ball
 
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:46 pm

Well it is (iirc) said that the casinos may hold "something special" in addition to the normal gambling, so who knows, maybe we do get a dirty backroom with some extra way to bet our caps.

I was hoping a small cage(or rather, large, given Fallout's mutations) in which one bug enters, one bug leaves. Wouldn't be nice to watch a Cazador(the giant mutant T. Hawk Wasp) show a radscorpion who's the boss?
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Alister Scott
 
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:30 am

Solution: C4.
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Valerie Marie
 
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:28 am

As a avid blackjack gambler i view gambling in New Vegas as a gimmick, and that isn't a bad thing at all! I will have some fun with it. But nothing beats sitting down at a real table with Vegas rules. Double down on anything, single deck, payouts 2/3 just me and the dealer if i can find a table and a white Russian in my hand. I'll try a simple high low count, running count, and a true count a bit just to test it out and i will have fun with it, but then i will move onto the wasteland.
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Post » Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:53 pm

I hope this isn't as bad as it sounds... getting banned for winning? Talk about your reward.

Maybe it's only if you win a huge amount in a small amount of time? I'd like to repeatedly visit all Casinos and win repeatedly.. but not get banned for my good luck. I really hope it's not like ''Oh, if you win a total of 10,000 chips overall from this casino, you're banned!'' then you have to stop at, say, 9999 (or as close to it as you dare) and can't play there any more.

'Cause.. that'd svck. Bad.

Hopefully it'll just be a time reference thing - don't play at one casino for a long time, switch around, then go back to the first.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:59 am

I hope this isn't as bad as it sounds... getting banned for winning? Talk about your reward.

Maybe it's only if you win a huge amount in a small amount of time? I'd like to repeatedly visit all Casinos and win repeatedly.. but not get banned for my good luck. I really hope it's not like ''Oh, if you win a total of 10,000 chips overall from this casino, you're banned!'' then you have to stop at, say, 9999 (or as close to it as you dare) and can't play there any more.

'Cause.. that'd svck. Bad.

Hopefully it'll just be a time reference thing - don't play at one casino for a long time, switch around, then go back to the first.

Well in a interview J. E. Sawyer stated that they were doing it to reflect life where if you "break the bank" then the casino will ask you to leave. So i guess it depends on what Obsidian considers breaking the bank to be. When you are up a lot early casinos want to keep you there so you can lose back the money you won, if you keep winning they have to decide when it is time to cut their losses.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:19 am

YES to Banning @ Casino. I have a couple friends who are banned from Caesars in AC. Mainly because of their behavior. I want to win so much they think I am counting cards, though I do not want to be banned from the premises.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:08 pm

I just hope that it isn't cumulative - that'd ruin it absolutely. If it's just like a cap on the total chips (say, worth 20,000 caps) a day, or week (I'd rather it be a day, or at most two), then that's fine - you just run across the street into one of the other casinos and play there, repeat, repeat, and I doubt you'll get to all 7 casinos before you get a bit bored or want to cash out and do something else.

Wonder if there'll be secret areas / hidden stuff / unique weapons you can win...
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sally R
 
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:59 am

You are all quite optimistic you'll win.

Gambbling is a lucrative business because players often DON'T win.
Unless you plan on cheating...
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:05 am

Im sure its just there to keep people from save abuse. So if you bet all your money and always win youll get banned fast. I doubt it will be a problem for regular play.

Hopefully you cant be banned from poker. Since the house makes money off the rake, there is no reason to ban poker players.
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Bek Rideout
 
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:42 am

Will a dev PLEASE just answer this? It's better to know beforehand.
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My blood
 
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Post » Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:22 pm

You are all quite optimistic you'll win.

Gambbling is a lucrative business because players often DON'T win.
Unless you plan on cheating...

Well, with 10 luck, you're practically cheating even if you don't cheat.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:58 am

Im sure its just there to keep people from save abuse. So if you bet all your money and always win youll get banned fast. I doubt it will be a problem for regular play.

Hopefully you cant be banned from poker. Since the house makes money off the rake, there is no reason to ban poker players.

There is no poker in New Vegas.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:26 am

There is no poker in New Vegas.

Kind of stupid, considering that poker chips are a currency...
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john page
 
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:38 am

If I remember right, Obsidian put that whole "banning stuff" into the game to prevent people get rediculous amounts of money ONLY by gambling.
That's what I read about 6-10 weeks ago.
I find it ok, I'll get my rediculous amounts of money mostly by scavenging, stealing & selling. The 3 magic S's.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:09 pm

so After watching a Few Demo's And Seeing in one of them that you can get Banned from a casino after winning so much money in a Casino,
so i started to think, Will you get unbanned Over time, Or is That you banned And Cannot Re-Enter that Casino, Or Any If you Get banned from them All

What do you Think?


There's always the classic Fallout standby of "walk in and blow the crap out of anyone who says otherwise."

:D
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:33 am

There's always the classic Fallout standby of "walk in and blow the crap out of anyone who says otherwise."

:D

That was my stance in Red Dead Redemption:

Me:What the hell, ALL IN.
Last Remaining Player:YES! Three of a kind, ACES!
Me:Ah, I see.
(stand up and unload semi-auto shotgun into him)
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:37 am

Hm, i hope each casino has some sort of Main Safe...

:shifty:
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Mark
 
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:03 am

You are all quite optimistic you'll win.

Gambbling is a lucrative business because players often DON'T win.
Unless you plan on cheating...


You're right....people plan on cheating. Save, gamble, win, save, gamble, lose, reload last save, gamble, win, repeat.

Maybe the game would be better if we couldn't save while in the casinos but I'm sure people who really wanted to would run out of the casino, save then go back in and gamble. So I suppose from that point of view, a cap on the ammount you can win stops you using the gambling games as a way to unlimited money.

The objective when gambling is to make money, if you lose money that is counter productive to your goal and if you keep losing money it would take a strong willed person not to just reload and get all that lost money back. I'm sure everyone on the forum will suggest they are that strong willed but just like those people who claim they want a fair fight what they secretly want is to win all the time while feeling like they could lose without ever experiencing it.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:20 am

There is no poker in New Vegas.

Dang I thought I read that someware. Well guess I wont be gambling much. Why play a game when you know the house will win eventualy? I guess high luck would turn the odds in your favor. But then its like a free cash machine. What fun is that?

Is there any info on the game they created? Hopefully thats not just another game of chance.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:26 am

What would really be cool is to have a quest that would allow you to come into OWNERSHIP of a casino. Those are the people who make money.

@Frost Paw
The objective of gambling is to have fun, not to make money. The people whose lives get ruined over gambling are those who think they are going to get rich doing it.

@ Enduring Protectron
10 Luck might improve your chances, but you're going to be lacking in some other crtitical area of the game if you did that. Not to mention in one of the videos the devs said luck really doesn't help with roulete because the odds are still 1:35.


Now, obviously the ban is to keep people from save cheating. So, I'm almost certain it's a permanent ban. However, I believe the ban threshold will be moderately high...someone who cheats and goes to ALL the casinos will make a good deal of money.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:52 am

You're right....people plan on cheating. Save, gamble, win, save, gamble, lose, reload last save, gamble, win, repeat.


There was some talk about devs planning on "an inconvenience" happening in the casinos to prevent the "win-save-lose-reload-win-save" exploit (at least to a certain degree) at some point, IIRC. They didn't go into specifics, though, just mentioned it in a "wink wink" kinda way. What it could be (if it even made it in) is just guessing... Saving prevented in casinos, attendance fee for the tables and/or for the chipexchange, there are possibilities.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:43 am

There was some talk about devs planning on "an inconvenience" happening in the casinos to prevent the "win-save-lose-reload-win-save" exploit (at least to a certain degree) at some point, IIRC. They didn't go into specifics, though, just mentioned it in a "wink wink" kinda way. What it could be (if it even made it in) is just guessing... Saving prevented in casinos, attendance fee for the tables and/or for the chipexchange, there are possibilities.


Or maybe the game keeps track of how many times you save/reload in and around the casinos for a period of time, and after a certain amount of times, casino games become impossible to win, or you get banned from the casino.
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