beth can really overhype things

Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:02 pm

Oblivion was my first game and i thought "Yeah man this is a game" but when i loaded skyrim i felt i was in an alien setting completely removed from what i knew from oblivion,in saying so, i realised this is a completely different game with suedo simularites and is not based on oblivion.My expectations were unreal,i think i was looking for oblivion.

There is so much voice acting in this game it's unbeleivable the amount of work that they put into it,just about every character will spout something completely new once in awhile.

ok there is'nt much recognition dialog for your exploits,theres no npc's gushing over you killing a dragon or taking out a band of robbers or should there be?

The only thing that gets on my nerves is theres only the same generic nordic tombs and caves though beautifully done where are the forsworn ruins?the falmer ruins? and the first race to inhabit tamriel,where are their ruins?
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:18 pm

I see your Fable and Too Human(dear god that game was horrible), and raise you Dragon Age 2 AND Final Fantasy 13. Best be taking out a loan to call that :tongue:

Actually never played either, nor heard much hype about either. Not sure on the DA2, but places I frequent don't have a lot to do with JRPGs.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:57 pm

not judging the game on the face of an argonian, it was a simple comment based on the original posters comment. My point with the Argonian is, look at how much time and detail went into just crafting the face of that particular NPC, compared to the ones we had in Oblivion.

and yeah 100 times better is MY opinion, but the reviews and sales are FACTS that prove this game is more popular and generally accepted/acclaimed by the public and consumers alike. Of course not everyone will enjoy it, but to say it's not better than oblivion is pure ignorance and denial. Oblivion might have done a few things better, but as a whole, as a game, it's not on Skyrims Level. Im not here to argue who's politically correct, or discredit anyones opinion.

I dont mind peoples opinions, but the general bashing and comparisons to Oblivion, a game released 6 years ago, gets a bit annoying, and I was giving my opinion, not saying anyone couldn't have their own.

But to say

"1. them: more variation in NPC's. Me: bull crap have you tried hunting someone off description yea let me guess he was about 6ft had a beard was white and had iron all over him"

just seems like complaining for the sake of complaining, yes there are nords everywhere...the games set IN THEIR LAND.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:59 pm

Just remembered one case of over hyping. There are markers, but npcs will take you out of town and show you the way. No, one npc takes you out of town and shows you the way.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:08 pm

Just remembered one case of over hyping. There are markers, but npcs will take you out of town and show you the way. No, one npc takes you out of town and shows you the way.

Actually there are quite a few quests where NPCs will lead you to the destination.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:15 pm

not judging the game on the face of an argonian, it was a simple comment based on the original posters comment. The amount of detail in an argonians face in Skyrim makes anything in oblivion pale in comparison.

and yeah 100 times better is MY opinion, but the reviews and sales are FACTS that prove this game is more popular and generally accepted/acclaimed by the public and consumers alike. Of course not everyone will enjoy it, but to say it's not better than oblivion is pure ignorance and denial. Oblivion might have done a few things better, but as a whole, as a game, it's not on Skyrims Level.

I dont mind peoples opinions, but the general bashing and comparisons to Oblivion, a game released 6 years ago, gets a bit annoying, and I was giving my opinion, not saying anyone couldn't have their own.

But to say

"1. them: more variation in NPC's. Me: bull crap have you tried hunting someone off description yea let me guess he was about 6ft had a beard was white and had iron all over him"

just isn't accurate, yes there are nords everywhere...the games set IN THEIR LAND.

My point with the Argonian is, look at how much time and detail went into just crafting the face of that particular NPC, compared to the ones we had in Oblivion.
People have different opinions on what makes a game better. That is a fact. There is no fact that overall the game is better. Maybe people share your opinion but that does not mean the game is better overall. It means it is better overall for you and those you think like you. That is it.

Sure I like the game but some of the features it has or is missing REALLY kill the fun for me. The game is also not as immersive as it should be imo. The way the PC interacts with the world around them is just pure and simply, not believable in the slightest. Especially in regards to the way guilds are handled and the lack of impact of any of your choices. Factions pretty much toss you to the wolves and instead of just being impressed they think you are the god come down to earth and make you guild leader almost immediately.

Yes you save the world. Nothing really changes at all though after does it? At least in Oblivion all the gates closed and you were given a set of cool armor that was fitting for your character. You also were recognized as being the leader of your guild by random people, though even in Oblivion it was kind of ridiculous how people knew you were the guildmaster right off the bat. But if people somehow do know you are in a guild they should at least get the information right in regards to who you are.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:59 am

Mage robes svck to, ultra conservative and to little variety. I'm not even playing Skyrim anymore i'm playing KoA and i'm seriously considering trading it in for ME3 while i can still get 20 bucks for it.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:36 am

Actually there are quite a few quests where NPCs will lead you to the destination.
Damn, must have missed them. Only others I have come across are when they are going with you as quest essential temporary followers.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:39 pm

Damn, must have missed them. Only others I have come across are when they are going with you as quest essential temporary followers.

Just one off the top of my head is the dark elf in Whiterun that leads you to the tower with the dragon attack.

Edit: And of course after the tutorial, which is what I figured you had in your mind already.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:35 pm

I only saw a few commercials and some web ads. So some jerks said some crap in some interviews 5 people saw bfd. Game was hardly hyped compared to most large budget games these days.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:50 pm

I only saw a few commercials and some web ads. So some jerks said some crap in some interviews 5 people saw bfd. Game was hardly hyped compared to most large budget games these days.

Pretty sure more than 5 people saw those... Jussayin'
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:50 pm

Just one off the top of my head is the dark elf in Whiterun that leads you to the tower with the dragon attack.

Edit: And of course after the tutorial, which is what I figured you had in your mind already.
I'll give you that, but is she showing you the way, or is she there, with the guards, to make that first encounter easy for new, unprepared players?
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:23 pm

I only saw a few commercials and some web ads. So some jerks said some crap in some interviews 5 people saw bfd. Game was hardly hyped compared to most large budget games these days.
Pretty sure more than 5 people saw those... Jussayin'
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uMieYVTCa5g/TectlTBkn1I/AAAAAAAAJ8Q/dE1os5zby94/s1600/advT8.jpg
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:57 pm

I'll give you that, but is she showing you the way, or is she there, with the guards, to make that first encounter easy for new, unprepared players?

You can actually follow her right out of Dragonreach, all the way to the tower, she is slow as heck though. =3
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:15 pm

You can actually follow her right out of Dragonreach, all the way to the tower, she is slow as heck though. =3

I think he means is she there with the intent if leading the player to the watchtower, or was she put there with the sole intent of making the first dragon encounter (well, second) easier for new players?
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:19 am

skyrim is no better than oblvion and they made it sound that way.

1. them: more variation in NPC's. Me: bull crap have you tried hunting someone off description yea let me guess he was about 6ft had a beard was white and had iron all over him

2. way less armor than past games i mean really all i ever see is iron and steel. yea i know we are in skyrim but still.

The Armor thing is for lore, I think.

I think Bethesda decided that it doesn't make sense if the common bandit is wearing Daedric Armor. Seriously? If they have Daedric Armor then why don't they just sell it and buy a nice house and be rich?

This is how I look at it. The common armor you see is Iron, Steel and Steel Plate. Elven Armor and Glass Armor is worn by the Thalmor since they are elves and light is good for them. Daedric Armor is only worn by a Hero (FYI: Dragonborn), anyone that is friends to that Hero (Your Followers), or Dremoras. Ebony Armor is worn by the rich, wealthy, and/or common warriors who help do good deeds.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:32 pm

To be Devil's advocate, what is really missing that was promised is a working economy.

Feh - I've pretty much given up on any kind of working economy appearing in any Beth game. Obsidian almost pulled it off with Fallout: New Vegas, but then promptly blew it to smithereens with the release of the Dead Money DLC.

Now I just accept the fact that my characters are going to be swimming in gold/caps/loot without even having to work very hard at acquiring it. :shrug:
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:27 pm

beth can really overhype things

Well I guess it's better than underhyping things.

Anyway, I'm very satisfied so far. Been playing nearly since the release date, and still very interested.

Not a perfect game but neither was Oblivion or Morrowind. And like both of them, Skyrim seems to be an exceptional game to me.
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Post » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:43 pm

It is exceptional considering it's a port over,if it was just pc then the guys could've thrashed the crap out of it and delivered a true modern epic.when was the last game that truely challenged peoples pc hardware the world over? Crysis 2007 as far as i know,When i first loaded skyrim i thought hmmm they really didn't bring their talents to full throttle on this.One could almost feel the dev team discarded alot of good ideas in the process,discontinued lines of story. even cutting stories short.alot of time went into npc development but they could of pushed the bar to new heights if they were given the resources and time.

Skyrim's a modders dream,all we have to do is just wait for the pro's to release their epics.
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Post » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:25 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmWrgwde7O8

Has this been posted yet? :biggrin:
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