Bethesda ! Stop Removing the game ! : V - Skyrim

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:19 am

If Bethesda hadn't removed the Sarcasm skill, you would know.

Curse you Bethesda!

11/10. So much win in this post.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:14 pm

I want to be skilled in the art of nudity.

Sounds like an awesome skill. :user:

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:28 am

A short summary of this thread:
"Let's whine about how things have been removed, ignoring all of the things that have been added and blame everything on the evil race of 'casuals'. Clearly we know more about how to design a game than Bethesda, and only hardcoe RPGers should be allowed to play Elder Scrolls games."

Let's assume for a moment that TES is being 'streamlined for the casuals': then continue on, Bethesda! I'm liking this new direction, so keep it up.

Skyrim doesn't feel like an RPG any more, and the RP experience is why I played previous ES games. But instead they've turned Skyrim into a hand holding tutorial on orienteering giving you no directions and instead a Dovahkiin GPS and a Google Nirn device in your huge rucksack.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:19 am

Skyrim doesn't feel like an RPG any more, and the RP experience is why I played previous ES games. But instead they've turned Skyrim into a hand holding tutorial on orienteering giving you no directions and instead a Dovahkiin GPS and a Google Nirn device in your huge rucksack.

I'll tell you what. I would rather have a GPS in my car when I take a trip rather then some vague directions some random person gave me.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:42 am

Skyrim doesn't feel like an RPG any more, and the RP experience is why I played previous ES games. But instead they've turned Skyrim into a hand holding tutorial on orienteering giving you no directions and instead a Dovahkiin GPS and a Google Nirn device in your huge rucksack.

I'd much rather NPCs mark locations on my map than give vague, inaccurate directions. :shrug:

Quest markers are completely optional too. I don't understand why people refuse to open up their map every once in a while ...

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:15 am

I'll tell you what. I would rather have a GPS in my car when I take a trip rather then some vague directions some random person gave me.

But Skyrim hasn't really had a technological revolution yet, I mean there's no guns let alone electricity.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:44 am

I'd much rather NPCs mark locations on my map than give vague, inaccurate directions. :shrug:

Quest markers are completely optional too. I don't understand why people refuse to open up their map every once in a while ...

Because Bethesda removed the map reading skill.

BETHESDA!!!!!

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:54 am

If Bethesda hadn't removed the Sarcasm skill, you would know.

Curse you Bethesda!

You know, that might actually be a good idea. Would make good for a sarcastic bard.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:27 am

I'd much rather NPCs mark locations on my map than give vague, inaccurate directions. :shrug:

Quest markers are completely optional too. I don't understand why people refuse to open up their map every once in a while ...

I wouldn't mind just markings on the map but tbh they don't even do that it instead just magically appears, as well you have some magical compass built into your eyes telling you what direction to go. And objects inside caves are marked so if we didn't have quest markers on it would be impossible to find without any directions.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:55 pm

I never noticed that the Cursed Ring of Hircine was automatically equipped. I was able to take it on and off at will. I was even able to give it to a follower. I never wore the thing.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:24 pm

I wouldn't mind just markings on the map but tbh they don't even do that it instead just magically appears, as well you have some magical compass built into your eyes telling you what direction to go. And objects inside caves are marked so if we didn't have quest markers on it would be impossible to find without any directions.

I never use the quest markers, and have no problem.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:39 pm

I never use the quest markers, and have no problem.

Skyrim's caves aren't particularly confusing as there is usually one route to the end where usually the thing your looking for is perched on a table in the centre of the room almost impossible to miss.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:08 am

Skyrim's caves aren't particularly confusing as there is usually one route to the end where usually the thing your looking for is perched on a table in the centre of the room almost impossible to miss.

I find that pretty annoying. I like looking for stuff that is harder to notice.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:49 am

Skyrim's caves aren't particularly confusing as there is usually one route to the end where usually the thing your looking for is perched on a table in the centre of the room almost impossible to miss.

You just said without markers things would be impossible to find without directions. I'm confused now.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:10 am

You just said without markers things would be impossible to find without directions. I'm confused now.

I meant for more generic quests and side quests that didn't involve one route caves and where the thing you were looking for wasn't at the end and instead in a chest. As well not just in caves, it can be in the open world what you are looking for.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:06 pm

Skyrim's caves aren't particularly confusing as there is usually one route to the end where usually the thing your looking for is perched on a table in the centre of the room almost impossible to miss.

Not only that. But your objective usually ends near an exit or a path close to the entrance.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:14 pm

You just said without markers things would be impossible to find without directions. I'm confused now.

The game's journal doesn't usually give any directions if any. This is why it is hard to go the right direction, most likely. I wouldn't mind the journal at least saying where the quest came from. Did it come from Whiterun or Morthal? There's a step in some direction.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:16 pm

I wouldn't mind just markings on the map but tbh they don't even do that it instead just magically appears, as well you have some magical compass built into your eyes telling you what direction to go. And objects inside caves are marked so if we didn't have quest markers on it would be impossible to find without any directions.

You could get rid of the compass and use your map. And some people actually did give me directions. Well actually it was quest-givers that gave me directions. Farengar and

Spoiler

Camilla when you do her brother's quest

That's all I can think of.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:25 am

Not only that. But your objective usually ends near an exit or a path close to the entrance.

And there's almost always a GENERIC LOOT CHEST ™ just before the exit.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:24 pm

And there's almost always a GENERIC LOOT CHEST ? just before the exit.

And no http://morrowind.bonusweb.cz/obrazek/ee_fatlute.jpg. I feel the lack of phat lutes is making the games too actiony and less about music.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:14 pm

And no http://morrowind.bonusweb.cz/obrazek/ee_fatlute.jpg. I feel the lack of phat lutes is making the games too actiony and less about music.

Why'd thing have to get so messed up, man? Why couldn't this thing just be about the music?

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:38 am

And no http://morrowind.bonusweb.cz/obrazek/ee_fatlute.jpg. I feel the lack of phat lutes is making the games too actiony and less about music.

True that man.
Bummer.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:47 pm

I've only played Skyrim.

Man, I'm missing out.

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:01 pm

And no http://morrowind.bonusweb.cz/obrazek/ee_fatlute.jpg. I feel the lack of phat lutes is making the games too actiony and less about music.

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Curse you Bethesda!

» Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:58 am

I've only played Skyrim.

Man, I'm missing out.

Oblivion is pretty cheap used. I was able to find it easily, at least. It was my first TES, though.