Why blame Bethesda on your failure to research what you are buying?


I loved Hearthfire and feel that I got my money's worth. It gave me a reason to mine, to hunt and to track down full sets of armor. I must have invested at least another 10 hours or so because of the fun that I was having with Hearthfire. In total I have put in over 330 hours into my level 78 high elf. I will continue to support The Elder Scrolls games and buy the DLCs that interest me.

i feel there should been more than 3 lots and at least couple different house style not just whiterun style

Yup, the issue is that the people who want this kind of content, typically want more than what is included in HF. More content means a higher price. The higher the price goes, the fewer people will be willing to spend money on it. Only the most dedicated and interested fans will spend 10$ or 20$ for house-building and family-building features.

So the devs have to find a sweet spot, the right amount of content and the right price so that as many people will want to play/buy as possible. Many people who wouldn't spend 10-20$ will still spend 5$ because it is so inexpensive.

Are you joking? You knew what it was but still feel "duped". Man this forum. This damn forum.

QUOTE: I started a new character and I have enjoyed incorporating Hearthfire into his story. He is a stealh/assassian character so the ability to build a home outside of the towns fit perfectly. He started out living in Anise's cabin until he had enough funds to purchase the falkreath property.....

Exactly, Jcote. That's RPing in its purest form. And the housebuilding and adoption mechanics of Hearthfire made it a more satisfying experience. That's what it was meant to do.

You guys are right that it's only 5 bucks so we shouldn't expect much. The only reason I'm dissappinted is because bethesda chose to make THIS the housing addon instead of going all out with it like we suggested on the forums a few months ago in several threads, or at least giving us something on par with the most basic housing mods out there. Of course this was supposed to be a tiny little distraction, but I have a sinking feeling that bethesda will not do another, better, housing addon for Skyrim, ever, and that saddens me.

Lots of people complained because Hearthfire was what it was. Lots of others are griping because they feel it doesn't offer enough. They can't please everyone.

I'll give you credit for this, but not 100%. Even with the knowledge of the "fixed" options the video showed us, it certainly didn't tell us the definition of "fixed" was so strict. I'm not complaining, but it was very disappointing to be told "you either get this, or this, for this wing, and once you've made your choice, you don't get to build it anywhere else."

As a programmer, these limitations baffle the mind. I'm not sure why a greenhouse is different than a kitchen in terms of placement, but the fact we can mix and match different styles of add-ons is why I'm baffled. Each add-on has its own programming, so why couldn't the kitchen be added to the north side of the house?

I based my purchase decision on the video as well as a review I read online which, shockingly, also failed to mention this limit within a limit.

I'm also disappointed neither specified where these houses were going to be located. The video implied we could build our houses where we wanted.

LOL. It's amazing what a little double-speak can do to one's expectations.

For $5, it wasn't a waste of money, but I sure wouldn't recommend veteran Skyrim owners to waste their money. Newer players will find more of a benefit than those who own a house in every hold.

The video was going to focus on the plus side, not the minus. Its purpose was to advertise, after all. I agree, it seems like it would have been simple enough to provide a greater level of customization. But for $5, I'm cool with what's offered.

Couldn't disagree with this statement more. I think veterans, including myself, will get more RPing value out of Hearthfire then newer players will. Newer players will look at Hearthfire on a stand alone game mechanic basis as opposed to how it incorporates into the game and story of your character.

Check out my post on the first page and you will get an idea as to how this DLC has added alot of value to this veteran's gameplay.

Yes. And it will add oodles of fun to mine as well, once I make it mine.
And if I don't get it, there's always fanfiction.

I agree, and for 5 measly dollars I have and keep having a lot of fun with it. People spend more on lunch every day, or fancy coffee in the morning, how long did that last? I can see improvements, sure, and I'd be willing to pay more for them, but for what we got I am more than happy.

Well Hearthfire is bad but atleast it's more content and cost barely nothing.

It's a bit naive to think you could have placed your house and your things in every way you ever wanted. That's not even avaliable (via in-game) with PC mods. The only way of doing that is via the Creation Kit..

By looking at your name, I'm going to just identify you as a troll. If you're being serious, then you're also a fool for buying Hearthfire. Everything was clearlye xplained in the youtube video they posted. Plus the day it came out people were posting gameplay of creating full houses. Honestly this isn't like Dawnguard where there is so much that you can feel like it's lacking things. Hearthfire was very clearly defined.

...thus showing how simple this DLC really is.

Don't misinterpret me. I agree with your definition of that guy, and that calling it "bad" is, at least, being simplistic. But you can't deny it's a pretty small DLC...

...but I like it being that way anyways Way to spend the 30-day exclusivity without releasing a bigger (and thus with more potential spoilers) one

Ok, while all the other arguments are legit, I must take issue with one point people constantly make: this is NOT comparable to the horse armor dlc. Not even close. Horse armor was purely aesthetic in terms of what it added. The armor was literally all there wasn't even proper implementation via new dialogue or systems. It had no utility and added nothing new in the way of systems and mechanics. Hearthfire adds new systems and mechanics, the content has real utility, it adds new assets of various types to the game, is properly and smoothly integrated into the game, and it is a fairly original concept(NO they did NOT rip it off from modders!). It literally contains exponentially more content and value than the horse armor. It is a unique and interesting player home (which can actually be three homes), like Frostcrag or Battlehorn. As such I feel it is worth the money; it is far from the absurd ripoff that was horse armor. And you are out $5! Honestly, I can't even get a descent burger and fries for that! Honestly, the things people whine over.

I just think it was a wasted opporuinity, it's really a nothing DLC, they had all the models for furntiture and housing styles already in the game - all they had to do was string them together. Instead there's three almost identical plots (bar a single exterior item) on which to build three samey houses.

I would not recommend anyone who only does one playthrough like you to purchase Hearthfire, it's tastes better over multiple new characters.

I couldn't even be bothered to play on my old character merely because the character is stupid rich and has nothing interesting to do while away from the house.
As far as I am concerned that character is dead and gone.

Actually that character would be great for the restoration potion glitch, I might try that later.

Plus a massive amount of new models for food, new mechanics about supplies, and a very deep adoption system...How are you disappointing?

Next time buy a Happy Meal at McD's.

Well if you call me a troll then you're mistaken and once again i haven't bought hearthfire because i'm not interested in the DLC and the content and it looks bad to me but that's subjective and may be good for you and i know it's more of a small content pack than a real DLC like dawnguard, next time don't make assumptions especially since i never compared this add on with Dawnguard.

Grease gives me heartburn.

Wow, in Canada a regular pack of smokes is $11.00+ and the CDN$ is currently higher than US$.

Back to the point at hand, $5 DLC what the F did u expect. Worth every cig, I mean cent.

Also, wasted oportunity? What you think all 80 devs at bethesda worked on this? This was a small thing built by a small subgroup to fill the gap between dawnguard and the next one. It also ended the timed exclusivity agreement. The res of the Beth team has undoubtedly been working on the next big one. And remember, these are dlcs so they can be all sorts. There will probably be only one that will be an expansion proper like Point Lookout and Shivering Isles. The rest will likely be like Dawnguard, Knights of the Nine, or The Pitt in terms of size.