Basically I have built one 3 winged house with a greenhouse, trophy room, and armoury. I have fully furnished the greenhouse and trophy room and the main hall but I have not furnished the armoury yet nor do I feel the urge to do so due to the fact the dlc is just a crude copy and paste. I already have the plots for my other two houses but I have no urge to build on these sites because basically my house will look exactly the same as everybody elses house. If I could have made my own choices to make my house unique and personalised then I would probably still be at work building and designing my next two houses. But I can't so what's the point as I already own all the other houses in the normal skyrim game and they are all fully furnished inside.

but not only I'm I bored I also feel duped as I thought the whole point of the dlc was going to be you could design your own house the way you wanted. if i had known that for 400 ms points I could have three more houses to add to all the other houses I already have then I don't think I would have bought it. not when I have no control over what contents I want to furnish my house with. if i don't want barrels then tough because you will get barrels even if you don't select them from the furnishing menu.

so to end with I will not be buying the next dlc on day one in case I buy into something that is not what was advertised in the trailer. I'm glad I only paid 400 points for this but it is 100 points overpriced as I feel it should be 100 points pre house at the very most.

You may of been duped, but I know I've seen a lot of people who already knew you wouldn't be able to have "free reign" on building your house and it was going to be more of a set "pick and choose" type of thing.

Should of just looked more into it before you bought it.

where was this info that the dlc was just a copy and paste before its release date. because bethesda certainly never told us that.

If you look at the video footage of the DLC, you can see it's just a pick and choose type of thing going on. Not a Sims, build it however I want to, type of thing.

I'm sorry... but... could you be specific about this? What do you mean by this being a "fact"? Copy and past of *what* exactly? Did you really expect *more* from a $5 DLC? Did you not see in the preview of Hearthfire that all you do is build a house? If you don't research a DLC before you buy it, do you really believe you have a good, solid reason to complain petulantly about its content?

Do you even know what you're talking about?

I was disappointed that the houses were just copy and paste of each other.

At least have them styled differently; don't give them the potential to look the exact same. Let my entryway of one house look completely different while purchasing everything.

And don't give me the argument "Don't purchase everything." If I can afford it, I'm not gimping the house or leaving it half finished just because their lack of diversity.


Don't get me wrong - I'm a hardcoe Bethesda fan. I even reference their games and defend them on other boards (most recently, Borderlands 2). But I was disappointed in the lack of variety from this, despite the low cost.

Exactly. And for those who did buy Hearthfire and are disappointed, jeez, you're out of 5 bucks? That's less than a pack of cigarettes where I live!

The houses look different depending on how you build them, a house with a balcony on three sides does not look exactly the same as one with three towers, or three sloped roofs. And you can have different combinations of towers, balconies and roofs. They are all the same colour and style, does not make them all the same unless you choose the exact same three wings all the time.

Yeah, I think everyone would like Hearthfire to have more content, because more is always better. But I certainly feel like I got my 5$ worth. 5$ is so little and I think HF actually gives me quite a bit of new content and features for such a low price. Just IMO, if you want a lot more customization, you should consider playing on the PC, as it is the fullest, most expansive customization you can ever imagine and it is all free with the Creation Kit.

I feel duped that they offered another "Horse armor" type DLC that cost money, even if it's only $5. Not worth it imo.

I've seen what's offered in HF, I know what's not, I want it anyway.

Be that as it may, there was room for minor improvements. Like:
* More external skins, allowing for a non-Nord 'look'.
* All room types could be in any wing.
* Interchangable furnishings, as long as they were the same shape/size.
* A workaround for Grelod. Non-brotherhood types could Persuade or Bribe her instead.
* Aventus should be adoptable. Children whose parents you kill should not.

Overall, I give it a B+. Worth the fin they're charging.

I was also disappointed. It's the closest thing to Horse Armor they've released... since horse armor.
It's basically five bucks to unlock within your game the ability to build three large, generic houses. That's all. There's no real customization, just select a combination among choices "A, B, or C" and then "OK, how many barrels, boxes, and generic crap would you like to put in it?" Also, the amount of bugs and glitches this tiny, simple DLC brought upon many users' game saves is absolutely absurd.

Here's hoping they're working on something substantial right now, something close to the Shivering Isles. Skyrim itself is a classic but its DLC offerings thus far have been mediocre at best.

The only things that disappointed me with Hearthfire was the limited location placement (I wanted to see one plot of land in each hold, particularly the Rift), and the lack of any architectural variety. (Again, I really wanted a manor similar aesthetically to the Rift houses)

I understand why some people feel duped, but honestly, I don't think they misrepresented the product, aside from the aforementioned issues, I was aware, just off the trailer, that it wasn't going to be a nigh-limitless design expansion, the likes you'd see in Minecraft.

To anyone that bought hearthfire and thinks that its a great dlc. well I have bottles of fresh air for sale if you would like to buy them from me for say ￡2 a bottle. Come on now, you have to admit that's a great deal. And even when you get the bottle and open it up and suddenly realise 'wait a minute I think this bottle had been filled with the same fresh air that is around me right now. I've been duped!' Well at least you only spent ￡2 on the product so its ok then.

The Horse Armour comparison is stupid and redundant.
Horse Armour was a test to see the potential of the DLC system on Xbox Live. Today it has its fun place in history because of how pointless it is for anyone to buy, but for Bethesda it made a great deal of sense.

Hearthfire just isn't in any way similar. You may argue that it is a pointless DLC, but if such is the case, then Dawguard is also pointless, as was Dead Money, Mothership Zeta and Knights of the Nine. They all add active content. Horse armour did nothing of value for the player, but Hearthfire most certainly does. For me, and more than a few others, it's a bigger deal than Dawnguard was because it is a great piece of content for roleplayers.

Horse armour comparisons just don't hold up.


And I'm sorry, I can't buy your bottled air as unlike Hearthfire, which was fresh and new, your bottled air is stale and bitter.

I do agree about at least different architecture styles: Whiterun, Solitude, Riften, Windhelm and/or a mixture of those. Let the user decide the style on each plot. Voilà. The skins are already there anyway.

Overpriced? You can’t get a movie ticket for $5 where I live. You can get a latte, but not have much left for a tip. I find it a good value at 400 points.

I think you’re right about one thing, though. You should definitely wait for the numerous YouTube walkthroughs that come out almost immediately after release to help you with your decision on the next DLC. They should tell you more than the advertising materials do. Which is great, since a lot of folks want to discover the content on their own, not from the trailer.

I've got more time and enjoyment out of hearthfire than I have dawnguard....more than worth $5...

That's what I like about Hearthfire. It's not just the house; this DLC introduces a lot of little new things throughout the game here and there.


Yea, I know. People are really complaining about DLC that cost FIVE DOLLARS? A gallon of gasoline where I live is up to four, and that gallon won't even get me to Gamestop and back.

...I mean, I can see if it cost 50 dollars or something. I personally would pay up to 20 for HF, myself.

I paid 45 for Skyrim, and gotten 450 hours entertainment out of it. And now 5 more will make it better... yes please, Bethesda!

The video cleared explained how it would work, if anything it's your fault for not anolyzing the video before buying.

Prior to release I could have hand picked most of the people that would have and are disappointed with this dlc based off the expectations they had going in. People need to realize that with a game of this size and breadth they can only go so deep on individual game mechanics.

For me it is exactly what I expected. Sure I would have like things different and in more depth but once again Bethesda has given me the basic tools for my imagination to do the rest. When Hearthfire was first released i tested it out on one of my mature play-throughs where the character had a lot of money. I built all three houses with three wings (every type). It was fun but I knew the real value would come from starting a new play-through and building homes when money was tight.

I started a new character and I have enjoyed incorporating Hearthfire into his story. He is a stealh/assassian character so the ability to build a home outside of the towns fit perfectly. He started out living in Anise's cabin until he had enough funds to purchase the falkreath property where he built a small house fully furnished and planted his garden full of his alchemy ingredients. After polishing his speech skill and alchemy craft he started making a fair bit of gold and decided to build a larger place somewhere more remote as his Lakeview house was too close to the prying eyes of the people of Falkreath. Gradually he completly built his Windstad Manor in Hjaalmarch with a greenhouse, storage room and armory. It was just him and Valdimar in Windstad as he had no interest in marriage or children....he didn' want to bring them into the life he was leading. That was until he came across a little girl name Sofie seilling flowers in Windhelm. Being a deathdealer for the stormcloaks himself, along with his increasing wealth, he felt the need to help the girl and decided to adopt her. They lived in Windstad for some time and added both a dog, vigilance, and a rabbit to their family. Other then a few bandits and giants, not too much bothered them and their homestead until he joined the dawnguard and learnt that he was dragonborn (didn't start the main quest till 90hours in). This brought a whole new level of danger to their home....both Vampire and Dragon attacks. Fearing for the saftey of Sofie he made a decision that went against his plan......he purchased a home within town walls. He moved sofie to his newly aquired breezewood home in Whiterun. Within the city walls and under the protection of Lydia she would be more safe....although vampires did attemp a few attacks on the town. He continued doing what he does best and just recently he built a small house on the pale property. It is completly bare and only the walls and roof structure of the grand hall has been built. Once he has ridden Skyrim of the vampire and dragon threat he will complete this home with the bedroom, storage and kitchen wings so it will seem more like a home. WIndstad was never meant for children with potent ingredients and dangerous weapons and armor around. When he has more time to be around and protect his family he will move sofie there and he came across a boy in dawnstar who will adopt as well. To complete his home, he will have both a thane and a steward to protect his family and belive it or not he is thinking of taking on a wife. He has had his eye on Sylgjia from Shor Stone, ever since he helped make a delivery for her when she was injured. A damsell in distress will always spark a man's interest.

What was to anolyse, we get to build three houses and get some choice in what we get, I like home decorating so just three set houses that size would have been worth that small amount of money to me. We get extra stuff to make, extra gameplay and the dubious joys of adopting children. For home collectors, alchemists, smiths, warriors, chefs and family RP players it seems worth it to me. You are not interested in anything being offered, no one forced us to spend that 5 dollars.

Now the horse armor was pretty useless, and not worth the money just for something to look at that served no real purpose. But if you had the money to spare why not.

Finzlly somebody tells the truth about this DLC, it is dumb and not wxhat the community was waiting for

I would say...If you are that concerned about "wasting" 5 bucks on DLC.....don't buy it on the first friggin day.

Wait a few days and see what the darn thing has to offer. It's not their fault that you went into this agreement ignorant of what was being offered.

Rather than "taking your fire truck and going home", and sayin you will not buy the next DLC....wait until you have the info and reviews of said DLC before you buy.

Rather simple really. I did the same thing with DG and HF.