1. Graphics are gonna be fine, new consoles are powerful, gameplay was already "dumbed down" from the hotkey fest of current MMOs.

2. Agreed.

3. It was delayed till spring 2014 for all versions.

4. It was delayed, they originally told us end of 2013.

That doesn't even make sense.

1. The consoles use the same architecture as the PC. The need for different code is minimal because of that.

2. They have always said no plans. even if they were planning, they were obviously waiting for it to be a reveal so you can only expect them to say no plans.

3. 2013 release is called an estimate. Even games with hard release dates can be pushed back. Further MMOs are notorious for being delayed. I fail to see how people are shocked by it being pushed back.

4. All version will be releasing at the same time.

1. Yep, svcks.

2. Yeeeep. [censored] svcks. I don't appreciate that I saw an interview what, a few days ago? From Matt Firor saying PC/Mac only.

3. They said when it was announced for console that all platforms will release at the same time, so yes the release got pushed back on PC. I'm sad by this, but not as annoyed as I am by all of the other [censored]. They HAVE been saying from the start that their estimated release was the end of 2013, but they would release when it was ready, even if that was later. Its really weak though that they've known they were going to announce this for awhile, and still kept spouting the lies, though.

4. See above.

There was plans though. This isn't just something they decided today. They should have told us in one of the dozens of interviews we've had very, VERY recently. I want to see some real information now.

They wanted to keep it as a big reveal. You don't say that you have plans for something when you want it to be a big reveal.

Yep, very disappointed, they either are liars(I don't care if your trying to keep a secret, stupid secret to keep anyways), or they are not on the same page at all, both of which make me fear for this game.

We need answers what exactly is exclusive about it. Is it the first beta on consoles? That would only put the Xbone back a bit. Is it the first open beta? That would put the first PC open beta back to 2014, because the PS4 won't release until December.

One way or another, when this exclusivity crap already begins with the announcement, you know where it is going.

This line could become a mantra right now.

Well the only reason that the pc and mac release is being pushed back to spring of 2014 is because of the late entry of consoles. So pc and mac players get screwed.

You actually do not know that. Beta could be progressing slow than expected. That alone is enough to push the game back.

For me thats nearly the end for ESO, because 2 things will happen know.

First the UI will be as simple as possible, the game will be for Casuals only. Easy Content that requires no movment. The only way that i would still play ESO after that would be if the make 2 different Versions for the Game.

Well i will still keep an eye on ESO but i dont think i will buy it 2014.

My Hype-o-meter just went from "High" to "I dont care"

So whats Next? Yeah EQ Next!

Nice try Zenimax but i think i will stay with real MMORPGs. If i want to play Cheap dumbed down crap with a horrible Comunity and a slow, bad support, i can make an Facebook account and play crap there too.

What i miss now is a word about the payment model. Im wondering if that will be the final Death-blow to this game.

Yeah if the choose B2P or F2P the game is dead befor it even starts, but there are others MMO's that could bring us hope. EQN ArchAge etc...

You do realize that for the past who knows how long they have been making the UI for PC and on top of that, the UI is moddable. You also realize that it is perfectly possible to make two different UIs, one for PC and one for consoles right? Heck FFXIV does that now.

As for content, considering that they have stated over and over again what the combat would be like and that hands on players have stated it is hard... yeah lets just go the complete opposite of that.

The amount of baseless assumption and hysteria that people have about this is down right hilarious.

Seriously why is everyone assuming the worse possible outcome? Dumbed down? They had already said a lot of older pcs would be able to handle the game. these new consoles will probably run it better than those pcs. So basically nothing is being changed or dumbed down. the only difference is higher end game PCs will be bale to turn up the setting to high and ultra.

The other thing I saw was players being taken away and divided for the PC server?......... lets be real. pretty much everyone who will be playing this on a console would not have been playing it without that option. Anyone who has both knows the pc will be superior and play it that way. So for the sliver of PC gamers they loose they will be gaining a Sh-- load of console players and thus letting many more experience the game.

[censored] community? The PC players will be on their own server, that was already answered

Yes we have to wait longer for release now but I bet the game would have been released in NOV or DEC so basically we will have to wait 3 more months.

Know the same begins as in SWTOR were everyone said the will be Ultra Patch at launch for high end computers. The graphic is already tuned down and that will not change.

Uh what? The trailer they showed for the PS4 looked a crap ton better than what we have seen for the PCs.

So it couldn't possibly be that it is a newer trailer with proper lighting effects in their engine, bloom effects etc.

Ok gotcha

A trailer can be modified with other programms, dont get fouled by such things.