No.

And yet you seem to be that really snarky. Okay here's game breaking bug, and yes loading previous save fixed it, but had to go back pretty far, same location of something caused script in Companion quest to not properly begin. Don't even get me started on Thieves Guild, you say stuff like this allows it? Maybe I'm just harsher, but in my experience if you start allowing sub-standard products (sub-standard because of the flaws) then you set a dangerous precedent.

Sounds like you've been unlucky. I've played all the way through every guild and I have yet to experience any bugs in those questlines, much less bugs that require me to re-load a game.

The reason that the bugs are often forgiven with Elder Scrolls games is because of the massive and open nature of the world. If they tried to catch every bug via testing, the games would never get released.

See how I'm able to get through a few sentences without calling you snarky or "devoted fan"?

This is about whether it deserves GOTY, I didn't say it's Hellspawn, I just think other games deserved it more for the various reasons I mention.

Actually, I believe you said:


It's fine if you don't think it deserves game of the year due to problems with bugs, but there are plenty of people who think it deserves it even with the bugs. They aren't all bad people because they disagree with you, and they aren't ignoring some greater universal truth that you've tapped into.

Yes, totally. The more success for Bethesda, the more haters gonna piss against the wind in the forums.

I said that out of snark and if I'm to be honest, it's more because I hate people ignoring flaws or dismissing them. Didn't say they were bad, fanbois is accurate though. I even said why Arkham City deserves it more, because of the fact it's the reprise and final performance of one of the best Jokers in the Batman verse.


This is the exact mindless love that annoys me, assuming all who dislike are haters.

So let me get this straight: you can't stand that people would overlook bugs when considering a game to be Game of the Year, but you think the contest should have been solely decided by Mark Hamill's existence?

One of the factors yes, but the gameplay was vastly improved too and it was openworld too.

Yes, it deserves the GOTY. Bethesda games always give me the most bang for my buck (Rockstar about the same as well). The closest game that has amounted to the time I put into Skyrim/Oblivion/Fallout etc would be Batman: Arkham City. I bought it on christmas and it was phenomenal so that's my #2

For the record, I have PS3 and PC version. I don't get any game-breaking bugs on the ps3 version like a lot of people seem to have. I do get bugs, but none that annoy me (like floating trees, empty space where terrain is missing, etc) doesn't bother me and I just laugh. Reminds me of RDR glitches with the bouncing horse carriages.

Yes. It continues with the TES series and has improved in many ways. Skyrim will then last for more than one year with all the upcoming DLCs and mods by its players and deserves the title more than any other game.

To me it deserved goty. I never experienced any really game breaking bugs and they are actively working on fixing the navmesh bug. I wish I could have seen the backwards flying dragons in game instead of youtube lol. the only complaint i would have is that i wish the guild and CW quests were more fleshed out they seemed kind of anti climatic at the end like ok this is all over now what lol perhaps in future dlc's they will expand on them more.

just my 2 cents

It was my GOTY, but not by much. Skyrim could have been much better, it could have realised much unfulfilled potential. As it stands, its excellent, but maybe with a longer period of development it could have been that much better. Oh well.

I don't think it deserved it. Had they finished the quests, I think it would have been great, but alas, nothing beyond the MQ was ever finished. The other issue as far as the quests are the ones created by RQ. Not really a good replacement for the story-quests that existed in Oblivion -- In oblivion, even the fetch-quests had some kind of story. Maybe a guy turned a village invisible and you have to fix it. Maybe the fisherman with a bum leg who can't fish. Maybe the Khajiit's stolen ring. But there was a story -- a decent story that made you give a rip about WHY you were after the McGuffin of that quest. Without the story it's about the quest itself, and outside of a few really good guild quests, it was mostly "go get a ring, 'cause I dropped it. In a cave of bandits." RQ don't give a game heart. They're filler.

yes, yes it did. they spent so much time on it and put so much effort into it that it deffinatly deserved it.

IMHO...it's not the best 2011 game, but still an enjoyable game

Haters gonna hate because haters are jelly.

if you notice most of the haters are ps3 players that could not play the game for the first 3-4 months and had to wait for a patch to the play the game the bought 3-4 months ago, a patch that does not work for some players

Amazing gameplay, great story, great gaming for some time, don't really matter when the game is
SO incredibly buggy and broken.

It becomes completely unplayable, eventually, if you play it enough. Yet, supposedly it has
a "radiant' quest system so you CAN do that.

It is probably the game that I loved, as well as hated, the most of any game this year.
I don't think that makes it "game of the year."

If I would have got through the main quest, killed alduin and then quit, maybe I would have thought that.
As the game was obviously designed to do, I kept doing other things. That was my downfall.

But that also shows you it is in no way ready for an expansion, of any kind.

414 hours of my time, otherwise unheard of for me, say yes.

Goty doesnt mean anything, maybe for the developers. I just play good games or games i like. So having played around 80 hours already in skyrim and still have the fun in playing, i say skyrim is a pretty good game and worth the money.
I like the gow series too, they only cant keep me hooked only played the first till the end.

To me I hate what they did with skyrim it is shallow boring broken when it first came out it was like paying 60$ to play a beta version of skyrim and them knowing it had glitches such as the ps3s and still released it to the public the way it was they never should of gotten a single award for doing it. the best of 2011 to me was dark souls the amount of time I got from that game and I still go and play it from time to time the story was good the combat was awesome and when I went through that wall of fog to attack a boss my god I was afraid for my life that one step I took wrong would get me killed.

Yes.

No other game has offered so much to me before and it's the only one to continually amaze me and drag me into its world so fully. It has almost endless possibilites (with modding of course) that will ensure I'll be playing it for a very long time.

More like Frozen of the Year Edition. *FOTY*

Seriouly though. Think about the PS3 gamers *also rememeber they supported Bethesda so don't ignore them*. How much they suffered with this horrible glitches and freezes. .. .. i will have to say no.

I think it definitely deserved GOTY. It's my favorite game of all time. It has many flaws and glitches, but overall the game really makes up for them