yes with short CD shouts, even very early in the Game

the Dovakhin feels too powerfull, compared to other TES characters

if highlvl enemies are not immun to low lvl shouts, i can even see a low lvl dovakhin beating a lvl 50 NPC easy


yes and nothing of these help against shouts, that's why dovakhin is too powerful

Well, the Nerevarine had the chance to claim both the souls of Vivec and Almalexia.But still, they were both half gods, while Dovahkiin will have the chance to absorb the soul of a true god.

im willing to bet most of that power wasnt legit.

anyway, this question is hard to answer because we dont quite know how powerful the villains are, since most of them are just so pathetically easy in the games, apparently that is no longer the case in skyrim, since so many things can insta-kill you early on, and still beat your ass at later levels,

i mean, reading the elder scrolls novels... i read about things that made me feel like i was reading a dragonball z novel.

the characters' powers were off the charts, it seemed...

people seem to forget... the dovahkiin has access to powers and abilities that the past characters didnt, so no matter how powerful your nerevarine or champion was... the dovahkiin will always be stronger.

ok, take out the game restrictions, i would imagine the dovahkiin would slow time, use elemental fury and chop the nerevarine to bits and pieces... and if he needed to, could even use that ethereal power to avoid any and all damage thrown at him.

the dovahkiin has invincibility, super speed, the ability to slow time, summon storms and lightning to blast you to dust, call for aid from nature's creatures, as well as a powerful dragon ally.

sorry, defend your nerevarine all you want, but the dovahkiin would definitely crush him/her.

My Nerevarine saved some corprus weepings to throw in the dragonborns face

Cyrus the Restless was at one point the HoonDing, the God of Makeway. No one is more badass than the HoonDing and then by association, Cyrus, who was an uber badass to begin with.

Zerojinkul, your severly over estimating the Dragonborn, and I mean by a LOOOONG shot. Dragonshouts are the Thu'um, it can be learned by any joe smuck with the time and patience, the only thing really unique about being Dragonborn is that you can absorb the souls of other dragons, and learn the shouts easier where as it would take much time and study to learn it any other way. Tiber was a Dragonborn, and yet it took him the use of the Numidium to humble the Altmer. Dragonborn never has, and never will be the end all in terms of heros.

Power doesn't necessarily mean perfection. I think the biggest problem is you can only be at one place at a time. I think that would bother my character. What if there's a situation where you are needed in several places but you only have the time to help out at one of those places? Even the Dovakiin's power has its limits I'd think.

You made a good point

You have to see and hear someone/thing before you can shout at them and Dovakhin can die from a sneaky backstab or headshot just like most. I know who my money is on in a fight to the death.

I know it's broken mechanics though so no need to point out God mode in the console.

Lore wise I'd still have to go with CoC though as with Sheogorath's staff alone, he has the ability not just to slow time but to stop time.

IDK, my Champion of Cyrodiil is pretty tough I guess, probably not better than your versions (but hey we have our own versions!) but mine is a pretty hardcoe warrior- I mean we all became the Champion of Cyrodiil, we became a Divine Crusader, then we became Sheogorath a Daedric Prince while also becoming the Master of the Thieve's guild, Fighter's guild, Mage's Guild, and Dark Brotherhood, while also becoming the Grand Champion of the Arena, and a whole bunch of stuff so Dovahkiin has some pretty big shoes to fill...

The thing I love the most about TES (and most of the RPGs that I like) is progress. Taking some prisoner and turning him into someone truly powerful. A maxed-out Oblivion character was a superhero. Not like Spider-Man or Batman or something; he/she's a full-on Superman-level superhero. Add spellcrafting into the mix, and he/she is a god, even without SI.

It looks to me that, in Skyrim, we'll start progressing our characters much faster than in the previous games, what with the faster early leveling and the Shouts. But, late-game, I don't imagine this Dovahkiin will be all that much stronger than the Champion of Cyrodiil, if at all.

Besides the lore and abusing game mechanics to become powerful, yeah, dragon shouts will make this the most powerful hero ever.

The biggest thing he's missing is fast running / high jumping, so you'll feel much more mortal than Oblivion and Morrowind.

Everyone's going ape-crap over Dragonshouts, its not like he knows how to use the Panktorsword or anything.

edit: He's not even the first to slay a dragon.

Dovahkiin all the way... he would own everyone using this tactic:
1. Use whirlwind sprint to charge into the CoC's/Nerevarine's face
2 Cast timeslow to almost stop them in mid air
3. Use elemental fury to speed up his attacks
4. mincemeat

....huh?

I am hoping that we are average as usual but when we do the first quest we get possessed by a dragon soul, thus allowing us to collect dragon souls and begin to learn the Dragon language. Not really expecting this but it would be nice to see. An average person until blessed/cursed.

In a fight between the Nerevarine and the Dovakhiin, the Nerevarine would win because (s)he can just go in hiding and wait for the Dovahkiin to die of old age.

Average is interesting, special is booooring. We however, are born with the soul of a Dragon from the get go thus DragonBORN.

There is a story within the lore (you'll have to forgive me as I don't remember the name) that mentioned three dragons were capable of defeating a large army. There is a reason why the dragons are feared. Yes, he isn't the first to slay a dragon (wasn't there one in Redguard? been so long) but DK does have the balls to approach them alone and it may be possible to fight more than one dragon at a time, displaying incredible endurance. Dragon shouts are the thing that people are leaning towards because it is the one skill all other TES protagonists do not have. Maxing out all attributes and skills is going to closely represent someone going jack-of-all-trades with their perk selection and 100% skills. DK will be even on those terms. But DK has the shouts, like a trump card, that we have yet to see their extent. The lore contains near mythical accounts of The Voice being used, on par with normal magic, but it seems that shouts do not rely on magicka, enabling them to be used more often and in conjunction with magic.

This whole argument boils down to lore and options. DK has more options at his disposal. Lore wise, we have yet to see what DK does in the story.

Dependent on how you want role play it. You could try and canonize it via lore if you want, but each character will probably be too different from one another if they really wound up coming to blows with one another. For my characters....

My CoC is, despite being a daedraic prince, is the odd one out. He was a good warrior, but really he wasn't near as cunning as the other ones, and I never really felt that he could take on the Neravarine on equal footing without being pwned, godhood or not. Nervarine against Dovahkiin would be a different beast. While I'm not completely sure who would come out top, I have a feeling the Dovahkiin could possibly pull a win. That being said, if my Neravrine was still alive the two would sooner work together than start punching each other in the face in the middle of some random field.

Can he regenerate health though?

Cyrus slayed Nafaliargus in Redguard, though I don't quite remember the story about the three Dragons defeating an army though I don't doubt it. The point is using the Voice is a learnable thing by anyone, you don't have to be Dragonborn to use them or utilize them, so they may make the DK special in this instance, its not something only he could do. Any of the past hero's could have learned it had the option been available.

Nerevarine wins.

Even if he just hides till Dovakhiin and the Champion of Cyrodiil die!

But Sheogorath likes the rain!

Alduin is a god.

Dragonborn is ment to kill/stop Alduin.

It stands to reason that Dragonborn = god. And since Dragonborn is able to play post main quest it also stands to reason that Dragonborn > Alduin.

I've never played Morrowing so I have no idea about the Nerevarine but I do have a special place in my heart for my Champion of Cyrodiil and maybe my Dovahkiin will be better, need to get Morrowind to understand the whole think about the Nerevarine.